G7 series Grumman E1B Tracer

Thoe6969 said:
Milton ,just downloaded and took her up for a spin,textures look great to me,anamations looked fine on everything that I tested.Only thing I noticed with the FDE was It needed a lot of down trim as soon as it lifts off.Other than that it feels good to me.Bear in mind I,m no professional but glad I could help.
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Thanks; I did notice that too. Maybe Tom will make that adjustment for us.
 
Will have a look, with a change in the model sometimes pitch characteristics change, but usually an easy fix.

T
 
Milton Shupe said:
Thanks; I did notice that too. Maybe Tom will make that adjustment for us.
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Milton and G7 crew you have got it slmost perfect! As noted previously the pitch trim is a little sensitive. I flew the thing for more than a thousand hours and it feels almost real in the sim. Actually the vc in the S-2F is the same as the E-1b with the exception of the Search light trigger on the co-pilot s side. The fudd had the pedestal yoke assemly rather than the push/pull tube, but i will not be nit-picking on such a great project! After over 26,000 hours in big jets I still have a soft spot in my memory for the strangest looking aircraft the navy ever operated off of a carrier!
 
Megadog said:
Milton and G7 crew you have got it slmost perfect! As noted previously the pitch trim is a little sensitive. I flew the thing for more than a thousand hours and it feels almost real in the sim. Actually the vc in the S-2F is the same as the E-1b with the exception of the Search light trigger on the co-pilot s side. The fudd had the pedestal yoke assemly rather than the push/pull tube, but i will not be nit-picking on such a great project! After over 26,000 hours in big jets I still have a soft spot in my memory for the strangest looking aircraft the navy ever operated off of a carrier!
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Thank you sir for your help in getting the original project and specs where they needed to be. It is this kind of help that is essential to the feel of the sim aircraft and your input was invaluable. My deepest appreciation to you.
 
Fixed the pitch up on takeoff issue. Will have to try an arrested landing again as my FSX must have had a memory leak, with slide show frame rates, a reboot and seems to be better. Yes perhaps a bit pitch sensitive.More to do! T
 
Comes aboard just fine, even from the 2D cockpit which isn't my normal style. Still working on pitch with some success.

T
 
Looks fantastic! So far the only thing I have found is that I've confirmed Bruce's observation about the the cowl flaps.
 
Thank you for the first feedback on the alpha model. I will look into the missing animations, even though I did animate the elevator trimtabs:kilroy: I will reduce the speculars on the wheels/tires, will check the EWS cap. Good job everyone. Once I get all these issues fixed, will send Uncle Milton a second alpha for testing and then I will start the VC:applause:
 
bruce448 said:
Milton, Eurostar and Tom not sure if you have this in your inventary of documents http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/E-1B_SAC_-_1_July_1967.pdf

ps Tom Can you check aircraft length in the air file should be 45ft 4 in and I get a reading of 57ft 11in think that is for the S2F-1/2/3's with the MAD boom extended.

Bruce
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Good observation. Checked it in gmax with the gmax tape measure. It shows the aircraft to be at 13.741 meters or 45'1". Lokks like I came up 2" short. :) Not bad considering the 3-view lines are 3.5" wide that I model from. :)

Just FYI, the airplane geometry dimensional parameters are mostly ignored in the aircraft.cfg unless you are using FSEdit to generate the .air file.
 
The length figure in the cfg file actually has no effect on anything, the model and contact points determine the physical size of the aircraft. Some dimensional items such as positions of engines, size and locations of flying surfaces etc do have an effect on flight charcteristics.

However it should be correct as a reference....

T
 
I added the new FDE, but it seems like trim response is very sluggish. The aircraft sort of performs like it is very slowly diverging in pitch and I have to dial in almost the complete opposite trim to counteract it. FYI, I'm using a Saitek X45 for ref.

It also would appear that the cowl flaps do not open and close.

That's my first observation, I'll try more tomorrow.
 
Still fiddling with the trim. The issue is to have it fast enough, but also fine enough. What repeat setting do you have it on in the FSX settings? One shot, slow or fast? It is essential to be able to have trim unit's small enough to be able to trim level flight. about the only time trim is really too slow is if one re loads the aircraft, which will leave you with several units of nose down trim to roll in.

Things a bit hectic today, daughter who just finished her Instrument rating last week had her baby today! Daughter's name is Skye...

T
 
Attached are the model and FM updates for testers. These changes reflect the feedback given so far.

Updates are only the mdl file and aircraft.cfg and .air files.

We will appreciate feedback over the next 24 hours if possible. If all goes well, work will begin on the VC.

Thanks

Anyone else wanting to contribute effort in the beta testing, please contact me.
 
Milton Shupe said:
Attached are the model and FM updates for testers. These changes reflect the feedback given so far.

Updates are only the mdl file and aircraft.cfg and .air files.

We will appreciate feedback over the next 24 hours if possible. If all goes well, work will begin on the VC.

Thanks

Anyone else wanting to contribute effort in the beta testing, please contact me.
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All we need now is the vc in the Fudd and a good "27 charlie" I.E. Hornet, Kearsarge, Bonnie Dick, etc and I could be back on Yankee Staion! Thanks Milton and crew ! BZ!
 
Congrats Fliger747 and Skye! Is this the first time you're a grandpa? An instrument rating and a baby at the same time. She's a busy woman.
 
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