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Golden Age Simulations Ryan ST-A

TeiscoDelRay said:
I jumped the gun on this a bit guys, the picture shows the old cowl and two cockpits. Paul is doing a new longer cowl with correct exhaust ports and closing the front cockpit for the final version. It will be a true Gosney Ryan STA "Special 200".

I fell in love with this plane long ago when attending the Sig Manufacturing flyin in Montazuma Iowa. Back then Glen and Hazal Sigafoose owned the premier rc model company in the midwest called Sigs. They did everything in house, design, kits, testing, production and sales. They had a small airport with a grass strip outside of town for testing the models and also for flying their full sized planes. Glen and Hazel both flew Pitts Specials and did some areobatics during the yearly rc events they held there.

Max Hester worked at Sig and built a model of the Gosney Ryan Special that he entered in national contest. Sig also made a kit of that plane and it sold very well world wide. I saw the original rc version many times as I lived only an hour or so away from Sig and spent much time there flying rc and getting to know the guys. I have flown many versions of the rc Sig Ryan and they all looked and flew wonderfully.

Time passed and Sig was eventually sold and re-sold but still is putting out models today. Glen Sigafoose was killed flying his Pitts at an airshow many years ago and many of the old crew has left or retired from the company or started their own business in the model community.

As far as the real Gosney Special not much is known. There is very little on the internet and pictures are hard to come by. Wonder if that plane still exist and where it is today. Lucky for us though that Sig had detailed drawings and plans that were exact and very scale for us to keep it alive today in virtual form.

Max Hester with his award winning Sig Ryan and the real Gosney Special 200.
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TDR, I'm planning on going to the Sig Father's Day Fly-in this year, weather permitting. Will have my Ryan there, along with my Waco YMF-5 and F7F Tigercat.

If you decide to go, maybe we can meet up. Maybe sokotai might be there, also. He's a member of our R/C club in Marshalltown, Iowa, also. He took the picture of my Ryan in flight.
 
rdaniell said:
Yes, that model is on my RealFlight Simulator. And for anyone who might not know what RealFlight is, it is a radio control flight simulator. You fly the airplanes using a RC transmitter. It is a great training tool. If you crash, you just hit the "red" reset button. Not like at the flying field....LOL

RD
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Yes, I fly mine on the RealFlight sim a lot, also. I have V6, and the dynamics are almost perfect. Was able to convert it to electric in the sim, like my R/C model, and it flies almost identically.
 
rdaniell and/or modelr:

Do either of you have any experience with Banana Hobby? They have a line of "Park Flyer" Electric R/C aircraft that I was thinking of trying. Specifically, the electric SNJ trainer since I have never flown one before.
 
glh said:
rdaniell and/or modelr:

Do either of you have any experience with Banana Hobby? They have a line of "Park Flyer" Electric R/C aircraft that I was thinking of trying. Specifically, the electric SNJ trainer since I have never flown one before.
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GLH, I don't have any experience with Banana Hobby. Do you already have RC flying experience? If not then I would recommend that you not attempt to start with an airplane like the T6/SNJ. Horizon Hobby has several airplanes for beginners. BTW....I had to learn the "hard way" what I'm suggesting to you. Heck! I reasoned that since I was a real world pilot rc flying would be walk in the park. Several hundreds of dollars later and 4 completely "totalled" airplanes, I learned the error of my ways...

I went back to either Park Zone's or Hobby Zone's (can't remember which) electric Super Cub. Once I got the hang of flying it, I moved up to Park Zone's T-28 which has full three axis control. I then moved to bigger airplanes with glow engines.

RD
 
glh said:
rdaniell and/or modelr:

Do either of you have any experience with Banana Hobby? They have a line of "Park Flyer" Electric R/C aircraft that I was thinking of trying. Specifically, the electric SNJ trainer since I have never flown one before.
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GLH, speaking as a longtime R/Cer and one of our club instructors with 30years experience, I have to go with what RD says about the SNJ, if you don't have any R/C experience. R/C is learned the same way as full size, start in a basic trainer, and move to more advanced, one step at a time. The SNJ WAS NOT a basic trainer, it was an ADVANCED trainer. The Ryan was a basic trainer. In R/C, since you don't have "seat of the pants" nor "cockpit orientation" available, you want a simple, high wing, self righting model to learn on, especially if you don't have an R/C experienced friend or local club to help you. His suggestion on the Parkzone Supercub is very good. It's all foam, not fast, and very forgiving. It's also slow enough that unintended attempts at digging holes in the grass don't do much damage, either to the plane, or the grass, lol. It's inexpensive, avqilable with it's own transmitter, battery and charger, and at least two old timers, one a real life pilot, pretty much taught themselves to fly well enough to move to the next, more advanced model.

If you don't have one of the many available R/C simulation sims for your computer, try doing a couple flights entirely from tower view in FS. It gives you an idea of the orientation problems that must be learned.

My Ryan, which is the same one RD has, made by Great Planes, flies like a trainer, while being fully aerobatic. I have let a couple young spectators fly mine using a "buddy cord" (hooking two transmitters together,) and they have been able to handle it well, with help.

A link to the Super Cub http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/super-cub-dsm-rtf-HBZ7400
 
rdaniell and modelr: Thanks very much for your response. I have NO experience with this hobby. I thought that perhaps I would like to try the electric route (really have no interest with the liquid fuel types) if I could find a suitable trainer. I'll investigate further on your suggestions andd try to locate a local R/C club in my area.
 
glh said:
rdaniell and modelr: Thanks very much for your response. I have NO experience with this hobby. I thought that perhaps I would like to try the electric route (really have no interest with the liquid fuel types) if I could find a suitable trainer. I'll investigate further on your suggestions andd try to locate a local R/C club in my area.
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I highly recommend finding a local RC club. Most members really like helping newcomers to the hobby.

RD
 
modelr said:
TDR, I'm planning on going to the Sig Father's Day Fly-in this year, weather permitting. Will have my Ryan there, along with my Waco YMF-5 and F7F Tigercat.

If you decide to go, maybe we can meet up. Maybe sokotai might be there, also. He's a member of our R/C club in Marshalltown, Iowa, also. He took the picture of my Ryan in flight.
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Well darn. I just checked the Sig website, and the ANNUAL Sig FATHER'S DAY Fly-In was held LAST weekend, BEFORE Father's Day. I haven't been to it for a couple years, and hadn't checked. My loss.:costum:

Maybe next year.
 
The memories of R/C flight. Great fun!! I remember my first model. The Aerostar 40 with an OS 40 2-stroke engine. I went from watching to flying in 3 days. Yes, I had the model completely finished and ready to fly in just three days. Was I excited!!! I remember the first flight well. After the normal rubber banding of the wing, fueling, radio checks and run-up, out of the pits I went. I set my model on the ground at the end of the runway and stepped in front of the tail feathers wedging the craft there for a last full throttle test. All was good. I stepped to the rear of the ole Aerostar and gave her throttle. As it went down the field gaining speed, I got an adrenaline rush that I never experienced before.
I was so excited that people in the pit were waiting for the transmitters antenna to snap. LOL!! Up in the air it went. The dihedral of the wing (once in the air) was doing as it said. All levels of flight were really stable and self righting. It's not a fancy model, but it served it's purpose to get me in the air as comfortably as possible as I learned the actions of the control surfaces. Back then, flying towards myself was the most confusing. All the movements relative to the radio and aircraft were reversed. A little confusing, but I soon came comfortable and was tearing up the sky as I buzzed our flying area. From that day forward I was addicted. And I'm not embarrassed to say, my transmitter antenna (last I flew) STILL shakes just as profusely as my very first flight!! LOL. I haven't snapped one yet though.

I haven't touched any of my stuff in 10 years. And I have quite the collection.
 
Spad54 said:
The Gosney version is being completely re-modeled so that when its done it will be an accurate representation. That process should be completed this weekend and then out for flight dynamics development. The 6 cylinder Ranger L 440 adds 12 inches to the length of the cowl and the cg will have to be adjusted as well as performance with the constant speed prop. The rest of the package is out for alpha test and we have some refinements to make but all is going according to plan. I'd like to say we'll have this out in a month. We'll keep you posted.

Best
Paul
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Finished the conversion today. Still needs flight dynamics and testing after that. Not quite ready for prime time

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