Gonzos Shipyard

[kl791]

Type 42 - the ARA Santísima Trinidad D-2


Yes - she was pretty much the same layout as Sheffield....I think i'm right in saying Hercules had Exocet launchers on the boat deck(?) but Trinidad was pretty much the same layout as Sheffield.


I'll see what I can do but shouldn't be difficult....it's probably something Henrik needs as part of his overall package.


Gary

Definitively - and sorry for being slow in responding, but I haven't been that much online lately.

 

[jmbiii]

Joe, that Intrepid "looks" like CIMOGT's version - not the payware one with Bon Homme Richard, Hancock and Lexington, but his freeware rebuild of Gary's original Oriskany.

Deke,

You are correct. I went back and looked through my zipped downloads and I have CIMOGT's payware Essex boats. Looks like I bought it a long time ago -Feb 2020. I must be getting a little forgetful (or whatever you want to call it).
I then went and looked at the .mdl file in the Intrepid folder and it is the Hancock .mdl. I had only installed the Hancock and changed the textures to Intrepid's hull number.
The B&A crane is still wrong for the Intrepid. I hope Gary can do the Intrepid's deck shape someday.

Those CVS deck layouts look great! CVSG-56 1963 - HS-3, VS-24, VS-27 and VAW-33 Det. 11 (EA-1E).
Do you want the 1963 HS-3 paints - dark blue & dayglo?


Joe

 

[awstub]

Boy, I didn't realize how tight the flight deck space was on these Essex boats.
Working on textures for Hancock's 1964-65 WestPac cruise.
I think the Razbam A-4C (converted to P3D & Tacpack) really looks on it too.

Only issue is the hump-backed A-4F's on deck..... should be A-4C's.

 

[expat]

Yes, the Razbam A-4C would be ideal for conversion to static scenery bgl's, particularly because of the repaint options that could be applied easily by all as they choose (easier for many than using MDX). Don't know if permission is needed for this or if Ron is still around to ask.

 

[gp183601]

So - i've got a mix of static A-4C's F's, F-8's, A-7's and a document which lists the WestPac and Vietnam carrier strike deployments from 64-75 with the different aircraft types deployed. What I could do is create a generic layout of say, a 65, 67 and 71 deployment with a rough range of aircraft types of deck for that period (for example)

Bon Homme Richard (CVA 31) with CVW-5 (18 Mar 1969— 29 Oct 1969)
VF-51 F-8J
VF-53 F-8J
VA-22 A-4F
VA-94 A-4E
VA-144 A-4E

Oriskany ( CVA 34) with CVW-19 (18 Oct 1973—5 Jun 1974)
VF-191 F-8J
VF-194 F-8J
VA-153 A-7B
VA-155 A-7B
VA-215 A-7B

I wouldn't do all the repaints but i'd leave generic textures to allow someone to amend appropriate markings as required. I'd need to think about how I structure the various folders and models accordingly for ease of editing....i'll go and have a think about that...

 

[expat]

I think the Razbam A-4C (converted to P3D & Tacpack) really looks on it too.

Wait a minute - is there a P3D conversion of the Razbam A-4C available somewhere?

Only issue is the hump-backed A-4F's on deck..... should be A-4C's.

Where did you find the VA-216 paints - or did you make them? Are those the FS202 AS or Razbam models as statics?

 

[FlyingsCool]

Yes, the Razbam A-4C would be ideal for conversion to static scenery bgl's, particularly because of the repaint options that could be applied easily by all as they choose (easier for many than using MDX). Don't know if permission is needed for this or if Ron is still around to ask.

The Razbam team is still very active, I think mostly designing for DCS, but I just had them help me re-download some of the packages I've purchased, and they responded.

 

[gray eagle]

These Essex class carriers are very nice. Great job!

I took the liberty of adjusting textures _auto_7.dds and _auto_10.dds to better reflect 60's vintage crew uniforms and MD-3 Flight Deck tractors though.

Unless someone objects, they will be available here for anyone else interested in using them: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oCTeIQ6Bnu1vWjiNHmHI1NlmdtBtXL65

Looking at the two dds files, IMHO these two files look the same as the originals.

 

[Duckie]

The new files replace the white deck tractors with yellow ones, and change or modify some deck crew uniforms, I think.

 

[awstub]

The original files had the crew wearing camouflage trousers and the tractors were white.

The modified files I made changes them to blue trousers and yellow tractors.

Looking at the two dds files, IMHO these two files look the same as the originals.

 

[awstub]

I converted the A-4C to work with P3Dv4 and Tacpack. The VC still needs work and Tacpack is about 80% working.....but I'll share it as a "DIY" kit once I get it finished.

The static models are the ones that came with the carrier model, so I don't know where they were sourced. They are a little under scale in size, but look OK....especially since they are free

I made the VA-216 paints for the statics as well as the Razbam A-4C.

Wait a minute - is there a P3D conversion of the Razbam A-4C available somewhere?



Where did you find the VA-216 paints - or did you make them? Are those the FS202 AS or Razbam models as statics?

 

[Mike71]

The original files had the crew wearing camouflage trousers and the tractors were white.

The modified files I made changes them to blue trousers and yellow tractors.

Good call - the trousers were heavy denim, normal tractors were yellow. A few tractors were white, but had auxiliary PKP powder bottles in a rack for acting as auxiliary firefighting vehicles. They also had a red diagonal stripe on the sides as I recall. They could tow if necessary, but normally not used routinely.

 

[awstub]

That would be great to have.

For the 1964 to 1967 time period, we would need some Skyraiders in the mix though...

This site gives a nice breakdown on the Carrier Air Wings (CVW) and the assigned squadrons: http://www.wings-aviation.ch/24-Naval-Wings/1963/1963-Basis-de.htm

So - i've got a mix of static A-4C's F's, F-8's, A-7's and a document which lists the WestPac and Vietnam carrier strike deployments from 64-75 with the different aircraft types deployed. What I could do is create a generic layout of say, a 65, 67 and 71 deployment with a rough range of aircraft types of deck for that period (for example)


Bon Homme Richard (CVA 31) with CVW-5 (18 Mar 1969— 29 Oct 1969)
VF-51 F-8J
VF-53 F-8J
VA-22 A-4F
VA-94 A-4E
VA-144 A-4E


Oriskany ( CVA 34) with CVW-19 (18 Oct 1973—5 Jun 1974)
VF-191 F-8J
VF-194 F-8J
VA-153 A-7B
VA-155 A-7B
VA-215 A-7B


I wouldn't do all the repaints but i'd leave generic textures to allow someone to amend appropriate markings as required. I'd need to think about how I structure the various folders and models accordingly for ease of editing....i'll go and have a think about that...

 

[gray eagle]

Would liked to of seen CVW-21 which was deployed on USS Hancock Nov 65- Aug 66 then onboard USS Bon Home Richard-Jan 67 -Aug 67 on either carrier.

I was with F-8 (VF-24) squadron during those times. We had the Spads of VA-215 (Barn Owls)

 

[gray eagle]

The original files had the crew wearing camouflage trousers and the tractors were white.

The modified files I made changes them to blue trousers and yellow tractors.

On second look, I did see the change to blue (dungaree) trou and yellow tractors. Looks better, Nice Job.

Those camo trousers might work on those Marine Gator Freighters (LHA/LHD).

 

[gray eagle]

Basically what expat said. Everyone is obviously going to have their own preferred formation setup but here's my formations (which I use for testing purposes). I did have an entry for all the carriers both empty and loaded in one formation but it got tiring having 8 carriers sailing along and hopping from one carrier in the fleet to the next!

[formation.10]
title=USS Bonnehomme Richard CV31
unit.0=USS_Bonnehomme_Richard, 0, 0


[formation.11]
title=USS Hancock and Oriskany
unit.0=USS_Hancock_loaded, 0, 0
unit.1=USS_Oriskany, 0, 400

Basically just look at the sim.cfg file and copy the entry from the 'title' field for the carrier you want (i.e. title=USS_ShangriLa_loaded) into your aicarriers config (unit.x=USS_ShangriLa_loaded, X, Y)

Cheers
Gary

How do I make a USS Bonhomme Richard loaded entry? I don't see any BHR loaded texture.

 

[gp183601]

How do I make a USS Bonhomme Richard loaded entry? I don't see any BHR loaded texture.

You create a new texture entry in the folder structure and amend the textures accordingly for the aircraft on deck to match whatever you want for markings, and then add a new sim.cfg entry with the loadedmodel and the new texture entry.

You won’t see a BHR loaded texture because I haven’t done it yet hence why I briefly put it up with an ‘as is not finished yet’ caveat.

The folder structure for the next version is different as are the deck configurations.


cheers
Gary

 

[awstub]

Would liked to of seen CVW-21 which was deployed on USS Hancock Nov 65- Aug 66 then onboard USS Bon Home Richard-Jan 67 -Aug 67 on either carrier.

I was with F-8 (VF-24) squadron during those times. We had the Spads of VA-215 (Barn Owls)

After I finish with the Hancock's 64-65 WestPac cruise, I'll do the same for 65-66. Something interesting I found (to me at least) while trying to pin down the correct markings is that VF-24 and VF-211 are related to each other. This web site explains it http://vf-211.my-personal.org/

Looking at the 64-65 cruise book, it seems there were two slightly different marking on the VF-211 Crusaders.

One without a black band at the top of the tail...

(The upper right wing lettering is tough to get looking right, because of the way the textures are mapped between two sheets)

and one with a black band and what appears to be the squadron patch on the tail.

 

[gray eagle]

After I finish with the Hancock's 64-65 WestPac cruise, I'll do the same for 65-66. Something interesting I found (to me at least) while trying to pin down the correct markings is that VF-24 and VF-211 are related to each other. This web site explains it http://vf-211.my-personal.org/

Looking at the 64-65 cruise book, it seems there were two slightly different marking on the VF-211 Crusaders.

One without a black band at the top of the tail...

(The upper right wing lettering is tough to get looking right, because of the way the textures are mapped between two sheets)



and one with a black band and what appears to be the squadron patch on the tail.

VF-24 was rivals with VF-211 and would refer to them as Brand X and because we (VF-24) had the smaller red checks they would call us bite size.

 

[gray eagle]

Recovery Complete

Stoof with a roof.....