Sopwith Camel Engine and Performance Figures
Hello All,
We have only the one Camel in OFF currently, but in anticipation of further variants I'm posting some info. here that might be helpful/interesting to devs. and others:
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Engines:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Firstly, Clerget:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]As well as the British Gwynnes/Bentley built 'long stroke' Clerget 9BF, rated at 150 hp at 1250 rpm([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Gwynnes[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) and with a compression ratio of 5.1:1 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Kacey[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) or either 5.14:1 or 5.29:1 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bruce[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) and delivering around 148 hp at msl ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Air Board[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]), there were several French built versions of the Clerget 9B (including the 9Ba, 9Bb, 9Bc) with outputs ranging from around 125-145 hp, although only the 9B and British licence built versions of the 9B (Gwynnes for the Admiralty, and Ruston & Proctor for the RFC) appear to have been used on the Camel. The French built Clerget 9B was nominally rated at 130 hp at 1250 rpm, with a compression ratio of 4.36:1 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Kacey[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) or 4.56:1 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bruce[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]), and it delivered around 125-126 hp ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Air Board[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]), whilst British licence built 9B Clergets, although rated at the same 130 hp, are known to have been less reliable and suffered from a loss of compression and a lower output ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bentley[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] / [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Gwynnes / Kocent-Zielinski [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]). The RFC obtained their Clerget 9B engines either from French suppliers or from British licensed contractors such as Ruston and Proctor, at least until April/May of 1918 when the more powerful and reliable British built Clerget 9BF became available from RNAS stocks after the formation of the RAF ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
TomVrille[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]). The Admiralty also had a contract with a British supplier, Gwynnes, to supply them with a licence built Clerget 9B, but this appears to have been used mainly on RNAS Strutters and Triplanes, although some of them may have been used on early RNAS Camels in the early summer of 1917 when the new Bentley AR1 engine was still not available in sufficient quantity to meet demand, and before the Gwynnes/Bentley Clerget 9BF was available to make up the shortfall.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Secondly, Le Rhone:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]There appear to have been at least three variants of the French built 110 hp Le Rhone in use by the British, and a somewhat less reliable British built version used on the DH5 and possibly elsewhere. All were used primarily, if not exclusively, by the RFC, as all the Sopwith built Le Rhone Camels that are known to have been sent to the RNAS appear to have had the Le Rhone engines changed out for either the Bentley or Clerget engines ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bruce[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]). The Le Rhone 9J (or 9Ja) and 9Jb appear to have been the two main Le Rhone engine variants used to power the RFC Camel, although the 9Jby may also have been used from late 1917 or early 1918 onwards.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The Air Board Data Sheets list these three versions, all nominally rated at 110 hp, as (1) Le Rhone with C. I. (Cast Iron) pistons (War Office), normal full rpm 1250 with an output estimated at 82.5 hp at 10,000 ft (approx. 120 hp at msl); (2) Le Rhone with aluminium pistons (War Office), normal full rpm 1250 with an output estimated at 92.8 hp at 10,000 ft (approx. 135 hp at msl); and (3) Le Rhone, normal full rpm 1300 with an output estimated at 99.25 hp at 10,000 ft (approx. 145 hp at msl). From the Air Board Data Sheets we can also see that one of these variants was flight tested in July 1917 on the Strutter and the DH5, delivering 125/126 hp at 1250 rpm, whilst in the same month another of the variants was flight tested on the Camel, delivering 137 hp at 1250 rpm. By bringing these two data sets together, I would guess that the engine tested on both the DH5 and Strutter was probably the Clerget 9J (or 9Ja), whilst that tested on the Camel was probably the 9Jb. I would also guess that the third variant, running at 1300 rpm, was probably the Clerget 9Jby (normal full rpm 1350, according to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Hartmann[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Thirdly, AR1/BR1:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]There appear to have been three distinct variants of this in use operationally, all on RNAS Camels, from June 1917 onwards:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The Air Board Data Sheets list two of these: the original AR1 protoype flight tested in a Camel in May 1917, rated at 150 hp (but by [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Morse [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]at 130 hp) at 1250 rpm, with a net output of about 127 hp ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Heron[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) and a compression ratio of either 4.9:1 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Kacey[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]), 5.2:1 or 5.29:1 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bruce[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]); and a later high compression BR1 rated at 150 hp, delivering 154-158 hp (sources vary, but 158 hp according to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Nahum[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) at 1250 rpm with a compression ratio of 5.7:1 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bruce[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]), and with larger induction pipes and 2mm holes. After delivery of the first Camels with the early AR1 had already been made to units in France, W.O. Bentley discovered that drilling 2mm holes in the induction pipes could raise output by an extra 11 hp (gross?), and this new intermediate AR1/BR1 variant, with a compression ratio of 5.2:1 was tested on Camel B.3835 in July 1917 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bruce[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]), and this became the standard low compression version until the high compression BR1 was tested in August 1917 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Air Board[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) and phased in to operational use during the autumn of 1917 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bentley[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Fourthly: Gnome Monosoupape 160 hp: although used by the US Air Service, this engine appears otherwise to have been used in only very small numbers, mostly on trainers. This was rated at 150 hp at 1200 rpm, although maximum output was 202 hp (manufacturer's figure) or 168 hp at 1380 rpm (tested Air Board figure). The estimated output at altitude was 127 hp at 6000 ft., 113 hp at 10,000 ft., 96 hp at 15,000 ft. (
Air Board)[/FONT]
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Performance:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif](The following is based on the official British test data reproduced by J.M. Bruce in his 'Sopwith Camel F.1' Profile no.31. As the British did not usually differentiate by name between the many different types or variants of Clerget, Le Rhone or even Bentley engines, using just the nominal engine rating in most cases, I have added the French notation myself using the 'educated guesses' introduced above. If these guesses turn out to be awry, please adjust nomenclature accordingly) [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The first batch of RNAS Camels, delivered to France in June 1917 with the unimproved early AR1 engine appear to have had little better performance than the early RFC Camels, as although this Admiralty version appears to have been somewhat faster than the R&P Clerget 9B and the Le Rhone 9J/Ja Camels (111.5 mph at 10,000 ft , as against 104.5 mph for the Ruston & Proctor built Clerget 9B Camel, and 108.5 mph for the Le Rhone 9J/Ja Camel), it was slower than both the standard Clerget 9B Camel (113 mph at 10,000 ft) and the Sopwith built Le Rhone 9Jb Camel (111.5 mph at 15,000 ft). Although the modified 'intermediate' AR1 / BR1 Camel (with the 2mm holes drilled in the induction pipes) improved on this (110 mph at 15,000 ft), and was better than these early R&P Clerget and Le Rhone Camels, it was still not as fast as the Le Rhone 9Jb Camel or the Clerget 9BF (113.5 mph at 15,000 ft). The final version of the BR1 (high compression) Camel (with a level speed of 114 mph at 15,000 ft) was slightly faster than the Le Rhone 9Jb Camel and roughly equivalent to the Clerget 9BF Camel.[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]In climb performance both the early RNAS AR1 Camel (5 min 30 sec to 6,500 ft / 9 min 50 sec to 10,000 ft / 20 min to 15,000 ft) and the 'intermediate' AR1/BR1 Camel (5 min 30 sec / 9 min 25 sec / 18 min) were better than either the R&P Clerget 9B Camel (6 min 40 sec / 11 min 45 sec / 23 min 15 sec) or the standard Clerget 9B Camel (6 min / 10 min 35 sec / 20 min 40 sec), but both were slower than either the RFC's Le Rhone 9J/Ja Camel (5 min 15 sec / 9 min / 17 min 20 sec) or Le Rhone 9Jb Camel (5 min 10 sec / 9 min 10 sec / 16 min 50 sec). The Clerget 9BF Camel was faster still (5 min / 8 min 30 sec / 15 min 45 sec), although the final high compression BR1 Camel was just marginally faster (4 min 35 sec / 8 min 20 sec / 15 min 55 sec) than the Clerget 9BF Camel.[/FONT]
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Dates:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]The RNAS were the first to deploy the Sopwith Camel in France, in June 1917, and the first batch of Admiralty Camels were powered by either the early Bentley/Humber AR1 or the Gwynnes Clerget 9B, the AR1 being the preferred power unit ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Mottram[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]). But the RFC were not far behind, with the delivery of R&P Clerget 9B Camels, Clerget 9B Camels, Le Rhone 9J/Ja Camels (from Portholme Aerodrome, and others) and 9Jb Camel (Sopwith) from July of 1917 onwards ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
J.M. Bruce[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]). The RNAS AR1 engines were soon 'upgraded' to the intermediate AR1/BR1, in or after July 1917, by drilling 2mm holes in the induction pipes (either at the factory, or at the RNAS squadrons for those AR1 engines already in service). This was followed by the introduction of the high compression BR1 to RNAS squadrons from the autumn of 1917 onwards ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Mottram[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif] / [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Bentley [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]/ [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Air Board[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]). During the Winter of 1917 the RFC tried to standardise on the Le Rhone engines (because of their slightly better climb) in preference to the Clerget 9B, although it appears that there were never really enough of the Le Rhone engines to do this fully ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Kocent-Zielinski[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]). When the RFC and RNAS came together to form the RAF on 1st April 1918, former RFC stocks were made available to the former RNAS units - with, for example, No.8 RNAS being refitted with Clerget engines from RFC stocks after it 'lost' all its Bentley engines in the German spring offensive ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Draper[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) - and it seems likely that Admiralty stocks of the Clerget 9BF engine were also being sent to replace remaining RFC Clerget 9B engines by May of 1918 ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
TomVrille[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]). At least some of the remaining 9J and 9Jb Le Rhone engines may also have, at that time, been replaced by the Clerget 9BF engines, although it is also possible that these were instead replaced by Le Rhone 9Jby engines - as there were still 821 Camels on strength at the Armistice with either a Le Rhone or Gnome Monosoupape engine (the latter used only in small numbers, mainly on trainers) as compared to 1342 with the Clerget engines and 385 with the Bentley BR1.[/FONT]
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Conclusion:[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Although the RNAS Camels would appear to have had a general performance edge over the RFC Camels for much of the period under examination (and particularly from the autum of 1917 through to the spring of 1918), this edge does not seem to have been either so clear-cut or so distinctive as most general accounts would lead us to believe. In the summer of 1917, in particular, at least some of the RFC Camels (those with Le Rhone engines) may even have had the edge over the RNAS Bentley Camels (at least in terms of their climb performance), whilst from April 1918 through to the end of the war most of the former RFC Camels appear to have been up-engined to a more or less identical performance level as that of the former RNAS Bentley Camels. In addition to this, at any one time there would have been a mix of engine types in use as new engines were phased in to replace older ones, and as some suppliers continued to supply the obsolete variants from their existing contracts. Although evidence of aircraft wastage and replacement rates ([/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Fill[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]) indicates that this process might have been a rapid one, even in quiet periods, this process of overlap would nevertheless blur such distinctions even further.[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Gwynnes Ltd. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Clerget patent aero engines (9B & 9BF): instructions and list of parts[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. c.1917 (facsimile reprint by Camden Miniature Steam Services, 2001. ISBN 0953652319).[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Air Board. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
Data for structure and stability calculation of aircraft[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. Air Board, August 1917[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Kacey:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/aircraft/32252-engines.html[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Bentley, W.O. [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]
W.O.: the autobiography of W.O. Bentley[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. Hutchinson, 1958[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]TomVrille
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/aircraft/27720-camels-type-le-rh-ne-9j.html[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Hartmann, G. Moteurs de legende: le Clerget 130 ch
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W.O. Bentley's aero-engines[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]. W.O. Bentley Memorial Foundation (Publication no.5), 2003 (ISBN 0954090128)[/FONT]
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Fill
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/aircraft/34464-se5a-v-dvii-wastage-figures.html[/FONT]