Helicopters and air control

[michaelvader]

Good morning friends,
when I will fly an helicopter I have problems with the air controlers.
to start the tell me fly to runway xx and wait there.
With a chopper as the for example the CH-53G that is possible. But for a chopper on skids as the Alouette II or the Bell 47
things become difficult. Because if I tray to hover to the indicated waiting position it is considered as if I have made a take of without permission.
Is there a possibility in FS2004 to resolve this problem?

Flap flap

Best regards

Michael

 

[srgalahad]

Micheal,
First, here is a link to a good description produced by the Los Angeles Area Control Center to explain the various concepts to pilots in an ATC environment.-- https://laartcc.org/stm/helicopter-movement
The reasons ATC thinks you should use a runway are several and mostly to avoid noise around the building areas, risk and damage to other aircraft, people and buildings from downwash and flying debris, and to minimize the chance of helis flying into airport obstacles.
The problem you (and almost everyone else) are having is that the ATC code in FS is very basic and mostly stupid, magnified by the limited precision we can have flying helos in low/slow and the hover.
In the real world, I cannot tell if a heli is at <20feet or maybe at 26 ft. - the sim can because it is just math and code. It also does not have "hovertaxi" and "Airtaxi" built into its algorithms. It simply has an arbitrary height at which you are no longer hovering but have taken off and are thus a bad boy. There apparently IS a height/speed at which you can "hovertaxi" but I have only rarely been successful at staying withing the arbitrary and unknown limit.
The sim ATC also has no understanding of anything beyond the basic operating methods - it doesn't know you have a sling load or an obstruction preventing you from accessing a taxiway so it cannot approve a departure from anything but a runway. A takeoff clearance cannot be issued from other than a runway in real life (or in the sim), but in real life, a pilot needing to depart from a back lot is told (phraseology may vary from country to country) to "Lift of at pilot's discretion, report airborne, depart via..." unless local rules prevent such operation.
Can you fix it? Well, the only switch I have found is the one on the radio that says "OFF".

Disclaimer: I love ATC. I learned to fly in a complex ATC environment, and then became a controller several years later. As much as I'd love to have ATC in the sim, I mostly keep it away from me for safety sake.

 

[Tako_Kichi]

My methodology is simple. Don't contact the sim ATC and they never know you are there so you can do whatever you like, whenever you like, at whatever altitude you like and in whatever direction you like. I find it much more peaceful that way.