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HMS Victorious circa 1960

Granted a redesign was required in places however the simple act of screwing up the production timeline added hundreds of millions to the price, case in point you're having your kitchen renovated; mid way through you tell your contractor to stop and order/install different appliances in different locations and you want tiled walls instead of paint, he goes away orders a new oven/fridge/freezer/whatever, comes up with new arangements and returns in two weeks, you then tell him not to bother and go back to what was originaly planned - would you expect the contractor to stick to the original price? Or will he bill you for the time, effort and expenses incurred by the homeowner meddling in his plan?

The ships could have been fitted out CTOL - but noone ever said you would be able to do it at the drop of a hat, additional hardware displaces existing arangements and power distribution would be radically affected - still possible though.

Craig

Sorry if I'm a bit sharp on this but I was involved in fixing some of that mess IRL.
 
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At the prices BAE charge I'd expect the things to be gold plated, but then I'm generally cynical about anything they tell me.
 
Granted a redesign was required in places however the simple act of screwing up the production timeline added hundreds of millions to the price, case in point you're having your kitchen renovated; mid way through you tell your contractor to stop and order/install different appliances in different locations and you want tiled walls instead of paint, he goes away orders a new oven/fridge/freezer/whatever, comes up with new arangements and returns in two weeks, you then tell him not to bother and go back to what was originaly planned - would you expect the contractor to stick to the original price? Or will he bill you for the time, effort and expenses incurred by the homeowner meddling in his plan?

The ships could have been fitted out CTOL - but noone ever said you would be able to do it at the drop of a hat, additional hardware displaces existing arangements and power distribution would be radically affected - still possible though.

Craig

Sorry if I'm a bit sharp on this but I was involved in fixing some of that mess IRL.

Shame you cannot design your politicians as well as your aircraft carriers! Then again, you don't exactly have a monopoly on that sort of stuff!

Ken
 
Granted a redesign was required in places however the simple act of screwing up the production timeline added hundreds of millions to the price, case in point you're having your kitchen renovated; mid way through you tell your contractor to stop and order/install different appliances in different locations and you want tiled walls instead of paint, he goes away orders a new oven/fridge/freezer/whatever, comes up with new arangements and returns in two weeks, you then tell him not to bother and go back to what was originaly planned - would you expect the contractor to stick to the original price? Or will he bill you for the time, effort and expenses incurred by the homeowner meddling in his plan?

The ships could have been fitted out CTOL - but noone ever said you would be able to do it at the drop of a hat, additional hardware displaces existing arangements and power distribution would be radically affected - still possible though.

Craig

Sorry if I'm a bit sharp on this but I was involved in fixing some of that mess IRL.

Off course in this example the kitchen contractor is being paid a minimum fee every year whether or not he fits a kitchen, in which case I'd expect a bit of flexibility. Not blaming you but having read the Haddon-Cave report I don't trust BAE's management as far as I can throw them.
 
On demand I have zipped up the Fairey Gannet AEW.3 "423" 849 NAS Victorious repaint. Enjoy!
 

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