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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

How do you fly

Admittedly, I'm very new to FSX, but I've found that limiting onesself to a single or predominant view takes away from the enjoyment of simming. I spend a fair amount of time in one outside view or another because I just like looking at airplanes. As far as the cockpit goes, I tend to prefer the 2D because of a visual impairment. VCs are often too dark for me to see what I need to see so I move back and forth between 2D & VC . But, hey! I'm flying>

LA
 
Typically VC for me - within limits. The reason for this is that I like my aircraft detailed and tough to control, and that is much easier to control from inside. That means I insist on functional and goodlooking VCs. However, the exterior view is crucial to my useage of the sim. My situational awareness isn't too good, I didn't spend the time and money to install all the stuff by Holger Sandmann and Ultimate Terrain for nothing. Maps are dry and lack character. I navigate VFR - using Various Fields and Roads. The VC isn't as useful sometimes (most of the time) as a check of my enviroment from them side or the top. It's also helpful with tight situations, since the default FS autogen is so badly scaled. Makes VC navigation difficult for me when I'm trying to land in a tight spot.
Besides, as a non-pilot (as yet), I usually see aircraft from the outside anyway. That's how I'm familier with things like the P-51 or the ERJ - not from inside. I like flying them from the inside, but I'm more experientially comfortable with them from the outside... if you know what mean.
 
I'm all over the aircraft, on the ground, in the air. Like some mentioned, being an R/C pilot, the tower view is great! The sounds from there are awesome. To those of us who can/do fly 1:1, the sim is useful for training, but definitely lacks the "full environment" feeling, ie no feeling of motion/vibrations, etc. These are all a very important part of flying. But that doesn't mean I don't enjoy the sim.

Not having a vc in the model does not automatically keep it out of my hanger, or maybe I should say, off my ramp, as ai aircraft. Our more powerful machines can put up with about a dozen or so non-lod, non-ai type aircraft, and not having a vc means the model is easier on frames. Just my preferences. For the same reason, I try to get as many paints as are available for all my aircraft, also.

fleurdelys, that is a beautiful Henschel 123. I would definitely have it in my hanger, even without a panel.

Don
 
Bonjour à tous,

To all who have taken the time to answer my post (I think my biorithm must have hit a low that day...LoL) and showed appreciation for my efforts, thank you, it is appreciated !

I just wanted to add that I have purchased the necessary program to get into panel making and will definitely try to get one to fit the exterior of my plane.

Just don't hold your breath for now as it may take some time for me to get my act together and create the last but "important" part of this enjoyable hobby.

Cheers,

Fleurdelys
 
Just an afterthought to the above...

For the mainly VC flyers; just imagine when... :wavey:

And for the mainly SPOT flyers; just enjoy for the time being... :jump:
 
... and a few more...

The last one being a totally fictitions "what if" joint venture between Henschel and Mitsubishi... :kilroy:

Cheers,

Fleurdelys
 
Dear fellow simmers,

I don't usually get into long dissertations or express my views in such a personal way but this is the time for it, I guess...
I find this thread quite interesting as it gives us a good example of the whys and whatnots behind our reasoning to come back to this forum and fly the planes that we share, whether they be freeware or payware...

There are some who build gorgeous planes and some others, who add their skills and give us gorgeous textures to adorn these beauties. Others prefer to make sceneries or put out their skills to task to get us as close to the real world as is humanely possible, given the limitations of FSX. And, believe it or not, they sometimes manage to push these boundaries in places where we didn't know that there were places to reach in the first place ...
Lastly, there are some who manage to mix and manage sounds in ways that are so close to the real thing that you probably want to duck when in flyby mode...

But I wonder how much of this is lost to those who swear by the VC or mostly VC alone option as far as looking at textures from inside the cockpit or listening to the cone manipulation of the sound as the plane flyes to or away from the observer...
If I recall, the sound inside the VC is different from that of the outside view and muffled to the point that if you are concentrating on your panel, you probably don't hear it at all or don't care as long as it's there in the background ...

I counted the VC only or mostly VC fans from the start of this thread and you stand at a whopping 82% with the rest of us being left out in the cold or spot view mostly...
I know that it takes all types to make a world and I can appreciate that the mostly VC feel that way at having fun checking gauges, turning knobs or pushing buttons as they would if they were really flying that particular plane. What I feel left out a bit is when some of you flatly say that if there is no VC, then that plane wont even be downloaded to your PC because you can't have that particular piece of candy that you prefer...

I think that building a plane or skinning it or making it fly as closes to specs or sound like or whatever takes time, patience and a particular dedication from those that are willing to invest their skills (however good that may be) and by limiting oneself to a particular part of the plane is akin to leaving out those that are not up to your specific standards...

I first started to build planes with FSDS v.1, then moved to v.2, v.3 and now v.3.5 about 9 years ago and never published any of my efforts because I never felt that my efforts were good enough to publish, considering the quality of the planes that were available. My learning curve might be slow but it has been constently improving...
Anyhow, I kept at it doggedly because this was a hobby and it brought me pleasure and relief from everyday stress...
My secret wish was to one day publish a plane which would appeal to a lot of simmers and bring them fun for some time but not just once and then its off because of the quality of the VC or lack thereof...

I've built a pretty decent rendition of a Henschel HS-123 for the past two years (on and off) but I'm no good at building panels and don't foresee myself back to basics for making one which would probably take the best part of another year...
That would be too much to give to so many while I'm really content in flying my plane from spot view mainly, don't you think ?
Anyway, if any of you know this type of plane, then you also know that the VC view is cramped at best and doesn't allow much as far as looking at the scenery around or the airfield when you're getting near to land...
You're better off in spot view just to make sure that you won't bump into a cow in the field or other obstacle left there to help you trip and do the candle.

Just as an after thought, how many others have opted out of uploading their efforts because they felt that it wasn't really worth it while so many would not take it or want it, anyway... ?

Sorry for the ranting... :kilroy:
I needed to tell it to someone as I consider all of you friends, with different views, in my simming endeavours... :engel016:

Fleurdelys


I want the Henshel!!!!!
 
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