me too! I was about to land a f-16 but a 747 was taxiing across the runway so ran into it
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How do you land
- Thread starter Pepere
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me too! I was about to land a f-16 but a 747 was taxiing across the runway so ran into it
As i use TrackIR i always take off and land from the Virtual cockpit, the only exception is the Hughes H1 Racer with which i take off from spot view or i look to the left the edge of the runway and compensate with the rudder the torque drift as the grass gets closer/farther. :mixedsmi:
HighGround22
Charter Member 2014
In any reply to subjects such as this, I always agonize over whether I'm likely to confuse people rather than perhaps donate a glimmer of a helpful idea. I'll desperately hope for the latter.
For each aircraft I fly, I put together what I call a "Flight Data Card" or FDC. Once I've pretty-well decided that an aircraft's going to be in my permanent "Stable", I get all the facts and figures together and produce the FDC in MS Word. As time goes by, these data can change, of course, as I learn more about that particular plane.
The identifying title's at the top -- comes in handy when you amass twenty or thirty of these sheets.
First section covers take-off, listing V1, VR speeds, flap setting, and trim setting.
Next section prominently displays the standard cruise speed for this particular plane..
The last -- and biggest -- section deals with landing. Most of the planes I fly are in the GA, Bush, or just plain Low-and-Slow category. So I begin slowing-down at 12nm from destination, 1600ft. (Some planes, like the Beaver, start at 8nm from dest.)
Next decrement (flaps, speed), is at 8nm.
Further decrement at 6nm, with gear.
Further decrement at around 4.5nm, as I "tip-over" and descend.
"Fence" speed.
Landing speed.
Don't get the idea that I sit there reading this stuff off, as I land. These data are merely an "aide memoire" to help me get into the groove, when I fly an aircraft I haven't flown for a few weeks/months.
So when I'm in a "strange" aircraft again, I give the FDC for that plane a quick eye-over prior to first flight, and before landing. Then I can get an idea of what features and pointers I should keep in mind, during the landing phase.
I realize that this is definitely one of those "works for me" things, but y'never know. Maybe there's another OCD type out there who may think the concept has merit. :mixedsmi:
Example attached.
-Jon
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For each aircraft I fly, I put together what I call a "Flight Data Card" or FDC. Once I've pretty-well decided that an aircraft's going to be in my permanent "Stable", I get all the facts and figures together and produce the FDC in MS Word. As time goes by, these data can change, of course, as I learn more about that particular plane.
The identifying title's at the top -- comes in handy when you amass twenty or thirty of these sheets.
First section covers take-off, listing V1, VR speeds, flap setting, and trim setting.
Next section prominently displays the standard cruise speed for this particular plane..
The last -- and biggest -- section deals with landing. Most of the planes I fly are in the GA, Bush, or just plain Low-and-Slow category. So I begin slowing-down at 12nm from destination, 1600ft. (Some planes, like the Beaver, start at 8nm from dest.)
Next decrement (flaps, speed), is at 8nm.
Further decrement at 6nm, with gear.
Further decrement at around 4.5nm, as I "tip-over" and descend.
"Fence" speed.
Landing speed.
Don't get the idea that I sit there reading this stuff off, as I land. These data are merely an "aide memoire" to help me get into the groove, when I fly an aircraft I haven't flown for a few weeks/months.
So when I'm in a "strange" aircraft again, I give the FDC for that plane a quick eye-over prior to first flight, and before landing. Then I can get an idea of what features and pointers I should keep in mind, during the landing phase.
I realize that this is definitely one of those "works for me" things, but y'never know. Maybe there's another OCD type out there who may think the concept has merit. :mixedsmi:
Example attached.
-Jon
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I only use VC.....if you want to and always be "right on"!!! here is the real flying trick....
As you approach the field, line up with it and....place the top of the "panel" at a spot on the runway.....now keep it there as you descend, use power to maintain it right on the spot.....if you do this you will always land exactly there.......this is done with any plane....try it, you´ll never have a bad landing again........
As you approach the field, line up with it and....place the top of the "panel" at a spot on the runway.....now keep it there as you descend, use power to maintain it right on the spot.....if you do this you will always land exactly there.......this is done with any plane....try it, you´ll never have a bad landing again........
S
smoores
Guest
I fly it down to ground effect on VC. I have full view until 5 or so feet. Slow her up and gently let her down. That works for most aircraft.
What's 2D? :costumes:
TrackIR and VC all the way. If I want to see what my paints look like, or what the weather is doing, then I pause and go "Walk and Follow".
In the Eagle (Christen that is), my circuits and landings are usually:
Downwind - along the centre line with smoke, cross the threshold, count four, pull up vertical into:
Base leg - vertical, kill throttle, pull over the top into:
Short finals - pretty normal actually (don't forget to kill the smoke over the threshold)... my speed is already slow enough, so everything lines up poifeckly.
I did do this real world in a K13 with my CFI in the back (he was teaching me aerobatics at the time). Just make sure you are carrying enough speed energy for the loop out, or things get very embarassing in a glider. :costumes:
I know... aerobatics in a glider is a waste of altitude and flying time, but I used to do it and I enjoyed it. And now you know where my flight mentality comes from...
TrackIR and VC all the way. If I want to see what my paints look like, or what the weather is doing, then I pause and go "Walk and Follow".
In the Eagle (Christen that is), my circuits and landings are usually:
Downwind - along the centre line with smoke, cross the threshold, count four, pull up vertical into:
Base leg - vertical, kill throttle, pull over the top into:
Short finals - pretty normal actually (don't forget to kill the smoke over the threshold)... my speed is already slow enough, so everything lines up poifeckly.
I did do this real world in a K13 with my CFI in the back (he was teaching me aerobatics at the time). Just make sure you are carrying enough speed energy for the loop out, or things get very embarassing in a glider. :costumes:
I know... aerobatics in a glider is a waste of altitude and flying time, but I used to do it and I enjoyed it. And now you know where my flight mentality comes from...
Mâra Trilokadev
Members +
Always in the virtual cockpit, and should I be in my Scimitar, always with subsequent broken gear and the phrase 'away rescue and fire control teams' occupying my imagination...
Happy Flying (and Landings!).
MT
Happy Flying (and Landings!).
MT
jmig
SOH-CM-2025
:costumes:
I have a perfect technique I will share with you "poorer landers" The method of landing never fails.
You line up to the best of your ability with the runway, road, lake etc. Slow down a bit but not so sow you are uncomfortable. Then right as you are about the hit the ground, quickly hit ESC. It woks every time. You never crash or bend anything. Oh, in case MSFS fails to record the landing, just go in and edit the log book.
Actually, I land from the VC.