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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

In case you guys missed it.....RCS B-25 for FSX is out

As I stated earlier, I like this B-25. I also like my MAAM B-25. Reading all the posts has made me aware of the controversy this new B-25 has generated. My first reaction on loading this new bomber was that it DID resemble the MAAM in many ways. Am I an *** for keeping it...maybe. BUT I LIKE IT! I so wish and hope that MAAM will start making FSX aircraft...maybe their P2V-7 (SP-2H actually).
 
Ok, I've tried the updated RCS B-25. The exterior is stunning, but the VC does leave a bit to be desired. The textures look a bit grainy as do the gauges. There is no control yoke nor is there a center throttle console. The upside is that once installed and set up it does not require patches and swapping prop textures to work in FSX SP2 and can be started manually. I really liked the MAAM B-25 in FS9, but who knows when the MAAM team will make their B-25 fully FSX SP2 ready. I dunno, I might just stick to the SOH A-26, I've got everything on it working pretty well except for the energizer sound.
 
IanP said:
Unfortunately, Roy's version does not match reality.

I, personally, was involved in Bill Rambow's package projects before Bill approached Roy to ask whether he could use some of Roy's panels. Bill then approached Roy to assist with the creation of a DC-3 panel. I still have the original packages, both before and after the inclusion of Roy's panels.

You may say that Roy is honest and sincere, Don, but I will say that he lied. I can and will state that here because I can and will also stand up in a court of law and state that, with evidence. However, I don't think anyone is stupid enough to take this that far.

The facts are that MAAM removed the rights from Roy to use any part of the model and/or textures after he left the team, because his product would be in direct competition with the MAAM-SIM model. That letter is also in the public domain and, indeed, I believe is still published at Avsim along with the retouched texures and photographs that Roy did not have permission to use. I'll link to it later, when I've eaten, as dinner is almost ready and I really couldn't be bothered with all this again right now. If anyone wants links in the short term, "Roy Chaffin" and "MAAM" at Avsim should yield their investigation and the statement. There's more around than that, but that's easy to find.

All of that, however, relates to a version of the RCS B-25 that is at least two, possibly three, earlier than the one just released. My only problem with this one is the fact that it is not a reproduction of a wartime B-25. It is not the same package as the original dispute was over.
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Yup, the MAAM/RCS B-25 dispute did raise quite a few hackles. As stated in Ian's last sentence this isn't the package that all the fuss was about. That is in the past...and between Bill & crew and Roy to sort out amongst themselves.


Reminder to everyone:
Let's not dredge up the whole ugly mess again here otherwise the staff be forced to throw a padlock on things. Please keep the discussion on-topic.
 
Sorry for getting anyones tempers up and setting Ian off, was just wondering since I vaguely remember the situation back when and wondered if anyone had any more info on it.

:focus: It's a nice model, agreed that the VC could be more detailed, but I see no FPS impact other than some texture loading in the VC, but love the sounds. I also had no issues with a manual install ( I hate autoinstallers)
 
As for auto-installers, it's a love-hate relationship. I love the simplicity and ease of use, but I hate not knowing what is being written to where.
 
My opinion...

this thing is free, this thing is great, I appreciate all the hard work that went into it so that I may have the pleasure of a great warbird in my FSX sky. What ever happened in the past is none of my concern - my choice.

Thankyou guys for all your effort.
 
@Don
Don, I haven't accused him of piracy.

It's a nice model and i also don't like autoinstaller. For removing it i haven't used the uninstaller.
 
I'm loving it. Love the looks of the VC. It works, good textures. I don't mind not having the yoke in there as mostly my eyes aren't fixed on that anyway. For freeware this is outstanding and it's great to have one of those for FSX.
 
Paintkit

Hi Guys

For those that are interested, I am working on a "mini paintkit" for the B25. Unfortunately it is not possible to make a paintkit for the full aircraft due to the graphics program I use being incompatible with all other commonly used packages, creation techniques for rivets/panel lines (which are not a transparent overlay) and the fact that there are over 50 source files for the external graphics with a total file size of over 1 Gb.

The mini paintkit will allow one to change noseart and aircraft markings on an existing paint-scheme. If those of you that want different paint scehemes, could post a "wish list" of paint schemes you would like, I will see what can be done to bring out a full set of textures with the corresponding 'mini paint-kit'.

With regards to the VC ... the version in the current model was created to allow the different "views" up.left,right, forward up etc. in FS-X, hence the lack of functionality and numerous missing cockpit components. However, I have been working on an updated VC which has all of the missing bits which will hopefully be available at some stage in the future.

The B25 for FS-X is not based on a real aircraft, it does not contain a Norden Bombsight (for those technical purists) and every single graphic/texture for this aircraft was created by me personally - with my input on textures alone now exceeding 8000 hours.

I have never once spoken out about any of the issues that took place in the past and I am not about to start now other than respectfully asking the members of this forum that are making baseless and unfounded claims to please stop. Your claims are in fact levelled at me personally. I have not ever used somebody else's graphics, no matter what any 'independant' enquiry might say ... and I have the source files to prove it.

I am an avid FS fan, I have the greatest respect for the people and equipment of the golden age of aviation. I have put in the time and effort I have, often at great personal cost and sacrifice, along with the other members of the team, to create something that would hopefully be enjoyed and appreciated by others and present a "virtual" tribute to the brave men, women and equipment of that great age.

Steve
 
We have been directly asked to let it drop, so I will do so. Let's just leave it as saying the RCS version of the history and the MAAM-SIM version of the history will never agree.

FWIW, under no circumstances am I "bashing" the degree of technical skill that has gone into this model. It does look very nice indeed and I'm glad to hear that the Norden is gone now! :)
 
audixaudix said:
Hi Guys

For those that are interested, I am working on a "mini paintkit" for the B25. Unfortunately it is not possible to make a paintkit for the full aircraft due to the graphics program I use being incompatible with all other commonly used packages, creation techniques for rivets/panel lines (which are not a transparent overlay) and the fact that there are over 50 source files for the external graphics with a total file size of over 1 Gb.

The mini paintkit will allow one to change noseart and aircraft markings on an existing paint-scheme. If those of you that want different paint scehemes, could post a "wish list" of paint schemes you would like, I will see what can be done to bring out a full set of textures with the corresponding 'mini paint-kit'.

With regards to the VC ... the version in the current model was created to allow the different "views" up.left,right, forward up etc. in FS-X, hence the lack of functionality and numerous missing cockpit components. However, I have been working on an updated VC which has all of the missing bits which will hopefully be available at some stage in the future.

The B25 for FS-X is not based on a real aircraft, it does not contain a Norden Bombsight (for those technical purists) and every single graphic/texture for this aircraft was created by me personally - with my input on textures alone now exceeding 8000 hours.

I have never once spoken out about any of the issues that took place in the past and I am not about to start now other than respectfully asking the members of this forum that are making baseless and unfounded claims to please stop. Your claims are in fact levelled at me personally. I have not ever used somebody else's graphics, no matter what any 'independant' enquiry might say ... and I have the source files to prove it.

I am an avid FS fan, I have the greatest respect for the people and equipment of the golden age of aviation. I have put in the time and effort I have, often at great personal cost and sacrifice, along with the other members of the team, to create something that would hopefully be enjoyed and appreciated by others and present a "virtual" tribute to the brave men, women and equipment of that great age.

Steve
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My choice of schemes is a simple one..."Panchito". This particular aircraft is the subject of Monogram's 1/48 scale B25-J
 
Hi IanP

With regards to the Norden bombsight. The Yellow Rose, whether originally manufactured in that configuration, has both a nosegun and a Norden bombsight and was reproduced for FS in the same 'real world' configuration.

I was unaware that the nosegun was not fitted back in the day to aircraft that were kitted out with the norden bombsight. I incorrectly assumed, based on the pics I have of noseguns/norden 'installations' that it was a "standard" configuration.



Steve
 
Regarding the Norden, Steve, the vast majority of B-25s that served during WW2 were not fitted with Norden bombsights - they were only fitted to section lead aircraft and the remainder of the aircraft simply dropped on the command from the lead ship.

Because of the improved defensive capabilities of having a non-fixed MG in the nose (you can't turn the nose to fire on an attacking fighter when flying in formation!), the other aircraft in a section were equipped with pintle-mounted MGs. For some reason, almost every B-25 refurbished back to be a 'warbird' has a Norden, even though most of them were probably not fitted during the war and, as such, the pintle mount guns on them would be completely correct but the guns are usually secured in position so they don't hit the bombsight. It's not an issue that's unique to Yellow Rose, for certain. I've been around a small number of B-25s over the years and seen pictures of many more. The pintle mount MG + Norden combination is far from uncommon in restorations. It's very definitely not a wartime configuration, though.
 
audixaudix said:
I am an avid FS fan, I have the greatest respect for the people and equipment of the golden age of aviation. I have put in the time and effort I have, often at great personal cost and sacrifice, along with the other members of the team, to create something that would hopefully be enjoyed and appreciated by others and present a "virtual" tribute to the brave men, women and equipment of that great age.

Steve
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That is why we are all here
Thank you Sir
H
 
:engel016:Being as how I am probably older than dirt, I have a great respect for those aviators that flew in these wonderful contraptions. When you realize that most were barely in their twenties, they did a great job. And Ian, I hope that there are no hard feelings, there are none from my side of the pond. Don
 
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