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In honor of the upcoming soccer game ...

Bjoern said:
Frustrating. Very, very, very, very, very frustrating.
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Trust me, it is nothing compared with getting into the final 2 times and loose both games. I can still remember both matches (1974 and 1978!).

However yesterday's game was predictable, the Germans played like the Dutch did in the last 30 years. Everybody admires your play, but you won't win the world cup with it.
Believe me as we have over 30 years of experience!

Cheers,
Huub
 
Naaa, that wasn't Dutch "foutball total".
Actually Jogi looked a lot into the spanish football and tried to copy a lot of their play.
This time however I think they where too defensive, and yes, scared, whereas the Spanish did their best game of the tournament so far.
Missing Thomas Müller added to it.
Spain isn't invinceable and they have obvious difficulties scoring a goal, and if our boys had tried more courageous forward pressing they would have gotten more chances.
 
"Voetbal totaal" (Complete footbal) was just a popular slogan for a play style with upcoming backs and a mid-field which could very fast switch from defending to attacking and played with a pointed midfield. Due to the fast changes in position the opponent would hopefully become confused.

After the successes from the Dutch in the seventies many clubs adapted this style, which became a sort of export product. In Spain or should I say Catalonia this style was introduced by people like Rinus Michels (who is seen as the inventor if this style), Johan Cruyff, Frank Rijkaard and Guus Hiddink. And many Dutch players and coaches followed them afterwards (Even Louis van Gaal). So when Jogi copied the Spanish play, he copied a copy of the the Dutch play style.

It is funny to see that even clubs like Bayern München have changed to this play style.

The opposite style was more or less Catenaccio, invented by the Argentinian coach Helenio Herrera and introduced by Internationale in the 60's. The system was based on a strong defense and often just one single striker and which had one player playing behind the own defense. This system is hardly seen anymore, although countries like Italy still play in a very similar style the don't play with the central player behind the defense anymore.

Cheers,
Huub
 
Just saw on ESPN SportsCenter: vuvuzelas are begining to show up at stadiums in the United States. The Horror. The Horror.

JAMES
 
Orange has wings!

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I am so disappointed with the very "Physical" play of the Dutch team that I'm now supporting the Spanish team.
 
Roger said:
I am so disappointed with the very "Physical" play of the Dutch team that I'm now supporting the Spanish team.
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Yes, I fully agree with you Roger!

I'm really happy that Spain has won the World Cup. Congratulations! :spain: :applause: :spain:

Greetings
Tim
 
Roger said:
I am so disappointed with the very "Physical" play of the Dutch team that I'm now supporting the Spanish team.
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In AFL parlance that would be 'Playing the man instead of playing the ball'.
Very silly and it cost them the Cup.
Equally silly remarks from the Dutch coach implying the referee was corrupt and had been bribed ......... really unnecessary and certain to land him before a hanging judge.
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Is it true that one of the Dutch players landed a Ralph Macchio karate kick to one of the Spanish players and didn't get carded? I must have stepped out of the room to get another beer when this particular incident happened, because I didn't see it.

JAMES
 
wombat666 said:
In AFL parlance that would be 'Playing the man instead of playing the ball'.
Very silly and it cost them the Cup.
Equally silly remarks from the Dutch coach implying the referee was corrupt and had been bribed ......... really unnecessary and certain to land him before a hanging judge.
:173go1:
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I'm pretty sure I have seen all interviews the Dutch coach gave after the final, but I must have missed this one. The "worst" thing he said in the interviews I have seen, was the fact he was disappointed the Spanish goal followed immediately after the referee had not seen the free kick taken by Schneider had been touched by a Spanish player and should therefore have resulted in a corner. But I'm sure you will reveal the source of these serious accusations. (Was it the Sun or the German Bild....)

There are some people here who say the coach told the players to play like this in the final. They must have good contacts! As I have not been there I can't say it true or not, however it would definitely be the first coach to tell his them to get some red cards because that would make them win the game!

Cheers,
Huub
 
Huub,
I caught that one as he was being 'interviewed' on the run.
No idea if it was on the way to the airport or leaving (looked like it could have been either) but it was live and aired on our SBS Network World News, not known for sensationalistic reporting and the Network that covered the Cup live for Australia.
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