Introduction

[Ivan]

Hi No Dice,
Got the email. I won't have a chance to check them out tonight though. My email isn't very private. It is included with just about every CFS plane I have ever built along with my name.

Thanks.
- Ivan.

 

[No Dice]

Ivan, It did not click at first

Dude, Your work with FS is outstanding, somewhere on all the files I am going thru I know I have at least most of your early work. I have been fortunate in life and met some really great people, but I think I would rather frame your email than shake the hand of the president.

Hell. I got excited the other day downloading one of your planes and found someone had added one of my panels to it.

Your up there with the best

Dave
www.thefreeflightsite.com

 

[hubbabubba]

Hubba,
Found a folder on my zip drive ( do people still use those? ) have the 1% for the stock CFS1 aircraft, do you need those?

I can email them

NoDice

If it is over 1 Mb, please, don't! I'm on a 56Kbps dial-up line and your email will clog my PC for days! If you can send me packages of reasonable size, do it!

Yvan can relay them to me in small doses as well.

Thanks!

 

[Ivan]

Hi No Dice,

Thanks for the compliment. Glad you like my work! I have since updated a lot of stuff even though I haven't uploaded anything recently. Been playing with AIR files recently just to see if I can create a specific effect.

I have gotten quite a few projects to the "almost ready" stage but just not quite the way I want them yet.

Thanks.
- Ivan.

 

[No Dice]

Uploaded single files to my site

If it is over 1 Mb, please, don't! I'm on a 56Kbps dial-up line and your email will clog my PC for days! If you can send me packages of reasonable size, do it!

Yvan can relay them to me in small doses as well.

Thanks!

Hubbu,
Just for you, single downloads now on my site

Dave
www.thefreeflightsite.com

 

[Robert John]

Just started to play cfs1 with my son he is 1.
He thinks cfs is better than cfs2. I think cfs has its own merits.
Robert John

 

[hubbabubba]

Just started to play cfs1 with my son he is 1.
He thinks cfs is better than cfs2. I think cfs has its own merits.
Robert John

Your son has taste! Aux âmes bien nées, la valeur n'attend point le nombre des années.(Corneille)

Thanks No Dice, got them all. I'm curious though; why no Spit Mk1 and why two Bf 109G?:ques:

 

[No Dice]

Sorry Hubba, Thats all I could Find

I have been sorting out what I had left and could retrieve off of my old zip files ect., most of what I had collected was lost in 2005 when Katrina paid me a very unwelcomed visit. Took me a few years to rebuild the house and business, thats why I have been gone so long. I have about 20 more files to sort ( wish I would have named them so I could remember what they are 8 years later) after that ,I start all over again.

Tried downloading your BF108B-1 in the archives, is it my computer or will it just not download.

Still looking for my Corsica and Italy 1941 Scenery and my Typhoon last parked out of Canelos cantina in 2001, only released to 3 people and then stolen off the parking lot, probably by someone in the RAF662.

DAve

 

[smilo]

if you left your Typhoon
in the Cantina parking lot,
then it was most likely snatched
by that Merc Air bunch.
some of them are still around flying FS9.

 

[No Dice]

Not So Sure About That Smilo

The Merc Bunch, my memory fails me, but aren't those the guys that fly piper cubs around disneyland? What would they need a Typhoon for?

Dave

 

[smilo]

..."piper cubs around Disneyland?"
I'll pass that along to Willy,
I'm sure he'll get a chuckle.

 

[hubbabubba]

I have been sorting out what I had left and could retrieve off of my old zip files ect., most of what I had collected was lost in 2005 when Katrina paid me a very unwelcomed visit. Took me a few years to rebuild the house and business, thats why I have been gone so long. I have about 20 more files to sort ( wish I would have named them so I could remember what they are 8 years later) after that ,I start all over again.

Tried downloading your BF108B-1 in the archives, is it my computer or will it just not download.

Still looking for my Corsica and Italy 1941 Scenery and my Typhoon last parked out of Canelos cantina in 2001, only released to 3 people and then stolen off the parking lot, probably by someone in the RAF662.

DAve

Its okay No Dice, I was just curious to know.

The Taifun is there and can be downloaded with Firefox 2.0.0.20 or Explorer 6.0.2800.1106.

With Explorer 6, hold the Ctrl Key while left-clicking the download link and keep holding Ctrl down until the download window pops-up. It works for me.

 

[Ivan]

Hey Hubbabubba,
How many versions of that BF 108 are there? I remember you discussing one with a constant speed prop at one point. Did that one ever get built? Did any of them ever have a 3 blade prop?

- Ivan.

 

[Ivan]

Typhoon???

Hi No Dice,
What flavour of Typhoon did you build? From the discussion, it was never publicly available?

- Ivan.

 

[No Dice]

Stolen from outside the Cantina

Hi No Dice,
What flavour of Typhoon did you build? From the discussion, it was never publicly available?

- Ivan.

This is all I have to remember her by!
View attachment 23502

 

[hubbabubba]

Hey Hubbabubba,
How many versions of that BF 108 are there? I remember you discussing one with a constant speed prop at one point. Did that one ever get built? Did any of them ever have a 3 blade prop?

- Ivan.

It depends on what you call a "version". The prototype (D-IBUM) had "interceptors" on the wing extrados and no ailerons. It was called tentatively M-37 but was renamed Bf 108.

After a fatal crash of D-IBUM during low altitude testings of the interceptors, the five remaining Bf 108 (retroactively called Bf 108A) were build with a small aileron in addition to the interceptors.

The Bf 108A all had a VDM three blades propellers with manual adjustable pitch. They were motorized with Hirth HM 8U and Argus As 17 engines.

The next "version" was a transition suite of aircraft build, or simply modified, from the originals A to B, known as Bf 108B-0. No two were exactly the same. First, the wings were changed, then the cockpits, then the tails, then the propellers and, finally, the engines. So some Bf 108B-0 still had three-bladed props.

The Bf-108B-1, the main version, had normally a fixed wooden Schwartz or metallic Heine, but for extra money, Messerschmitt was offering its own manually controlled variable two blades Me P7 propeller.

The Bf 108B-2 was the military version and was supposed to have the Me P7 system installed "standard". The lineage is much more murkier than that; low priority and displacement of production to France forced the Luftwaffe to "draft" civilian Bf 108B-1 into military service and to "cannibalize" old aircraft to build new ones.

The Bf-108D differed from the B type by having the Argus automatic variable two blades pitch propeller, noticeable by its "orange juice maker" propeller hub. This was the only constant speed prop of the Taifun varieties.

 

[Ivan]

Hi Hubbabubba,

I am guessing you are discussing spoilers instead of ailerons, but really don't know what "interceptors" and "extrados" mean.

I was asking not so much about the real BF 108, but rather about which versions you had built.

- Ivan.

 

[hubbabubba]

Hello Ivan,

I only build the Bf 108B-1 version but my intention is to build them all, including the remake of the B-1, with my new SCASMing method.

"Interceptors" are spoilers acting as ailerons, not air-brakes, popping out of the upper surface of the wing (called extrados). Very few a/c have them but, in the early-mid 30's, they were thought to be superior to ailerons at low and medium speeds. Some specialized a/c still have them.

An " interceptor " consists of a narrow plate which may be raised to a
position approximately normal to the upper surface of a wing. It is placed
close behind an open slot, and nullifies the effect of the slot, producing an
increase in drag and reduction in lift. The interceptor Is arranged to come
up when the aileron on that wing is raised. In the course of their experiments
Messrs. Handle?- Page found that the most effective position o( the
interceptor was very close behind the trailing edge of the slat; this necessitates
the interceptor being housed in a recess, which is covered by the slat when the
latter is lying against the wing as in normal flight.

in http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1931/1931 - 0198.html

In the original D-IBUM, the interceptors were the sole roll axis controls. It was believed that, at near stall speed, they would keep the a/c highly maneuverable. It also permitted the installation of a Fowler type flap covering the entirety of the trailing edge.

 

[Ivan]

I believe the B-52 has them as well. There is a You-Tube video of a B-52 crashing at an air show. The pilot tried to use the spoilers for roll control and because the plane was in a vertical bank, they did not have any effect. The regular ailerons were apparently not powerful enough to correct the bank either at that point.

It appears to me to be pretty much worthless for an aerobatic aircraft.

- Ivan.