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IRIS Yak-130

Really? I mean...REALLY? A YAK-130?? C'mon....where is the freakin E-2C?????????? S-3B???? And I don't know...about 300 other aircraft that customers would actually PURCHASE if they were developed by Iris?? Sorry if this seems a bit harsh or sour, but it is getting to be a bit disturbing that payware developers with such high-caliber skills go after such obscurities to develop. Feel free to rake me over the coals. Maybe they should have made a 737....
 
Obscure? Wouldn't be to a Russian...maybe an E-2C would be obscure to them though.....I betcha a PAC Cresco would be obscure to you but not to me (luckily there is one available FSX)
 
I stand behind my original statement. As I said In my prior post...feel free to rake me over the coals, but that is my opinion. Good luck to iris with this aircraft. I hope it is a sales and sim success.


...And, FWIW...the PAC Cresco is one of the ugliest flying machines ever made. Yes, I know what it is. No, I would never fly one. Based on its ugly factor alone.
 
Well, I agree that it is a bit obscure, but I think one of the selling points here is that its a modern aircraft in a class that does seem to be popular (think Lotus L-39, Milviz T-38, etc). Modern, fast jet.
I'm sure we're all hoping for aircraft that we believe "need" to be made and that "will" sell well. If you go by the feedback of other forums, some may believe that it's yet another Boeing 7XX iteration, and some would indeed be happy seeing only those aircraft developed. Others are waiting for the latest light single from the likes of Realair or Carenado.

I think the common factors and mission profile of this Yak-130 overpower the fact that most, flight sim users at least, haven't heard of it. The "Russian" market seems to be finally emerging more on the payware side of things, and I've seen some nice positive feedback on various forums by the quiet enthusiasts that see these aircraft often in the real world.

I would rather see a variety of aircraft developed over this recent trend of two, three, or even more developers all covering the same aircraft type.

One can write this off as the opinion of someone who is known to have an interest in this side of aviation, but I think my comment still may have some value to it.
 
I want to see an E-2C, C-2B, and a S-3B myself.. As said above though light jets, and GA birds is where it is at right now. There is a large silent majority that never posts to any of these forums, but buys those products by and large. I will be interesting in seeing how they pull off the Russian glass cockpit myself. Certaintly looks like an interesting jet though. My mind has tempted me to buy their F-20 on a number of occassions. So far I have resisted.
 
And I agree with you, Sean. And my apologies to Naki.

I am going to see what develops of this aircraft. It is of little value to the sim world to have an opinion such as mine, as what naki said is entirely correct. There is clearly going to be a market for this aircraft, and perhaps, it will open up new ones as well....
 
At least its not another P-51:icon_lol:F-15, CH-47 ect. No risk of market sturation there. Now with Virtavia on the A-4 bandwagon, I was expecting more scooters than rush hour in Rome, so a YAK130. Good looking little jet, not everyones cup'o meat. I'd rather see some coldwar stuff like 'Sader, Savages or Furys, but, what the hey. Its their quarter, good on 'em.
 
No problems Matt...it will indeed be interesting what the final Yak-130 product will be like (and their PC-21).

For me the only military jet I want at the moment is a Scooter (the Virtavia A-4 looks very promising) and perhaps a Blunty (BAC Strikemaster)
 
Strikemaster would be excellent...as would an A-37 Dragonfly....And an A-4, although I am not sure Virtavia would have been my development house-of-choice...I guess it is a 'take what you can get and like it or don't buy it' kind of business lol...General aviation is my genre, despite military in my blood and background. So, we will see what this Yak winds up bringing to the table. And, myself and many others could wind up being very impressed/surprised
 
An A-37 would be another I would be interested in (there is a private one based at my local airport hence the interest)...RAZBAM are making one IIRC.
 
my next jet will be the Virtavia A-4.....no other! Good luck on this one IRIS.....I'm out of this one. What happened to the Tomcat IRIS was redoing?
 
OH cool! I thought initially it was another aerobatic type...this one looks sweet and obscure, as has been pointed out. I too would like to see some of their earlier models brought up to their current standards of shine, but this one is great looking too.
 
I welcome a Yak-130, great choice. And also, one step closer to a T-50 ;-)


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Love to see the yak..I certainly would be interested.

one thing I can't understand...why no true Fsx kc-135? with all the different countries that rely on them and so many different planes refuel from them, it's strange their isn't a good Fsx one around.

capt Sim did a real nice 707 so how about chopping the fuse and hanging some a/r stuff on it. would make great multiplayer fun!
 
Now there's a nice surprise. Russian/CIS aviation has been underrepresented in the FS world for quite some time, and to be honest, there isn't exactly a drought of American aircraft either. We already have the F-15E, T-38, F-16, F/A-18E, A-7, A-10 and classics like the A-4, F-4, F-86, F/A-18C and F-15C are in development. I find it curious that an oddity like the Silence Twister didn't draw out this sort of reaction when it was released. Besides, it's hardly going to remain an obscure airplane forever, given that this is going to be the primary trainer of the VVS well into this century...


Although, as above, I still want my E-2, C-2 and S-3 in FSX native glory.
 
http://warfare.ru/0702ey70/update/september2010/4/yak130-cock.jpg

Still VERY curious on how they're going to pull off the cockpit systems on this.
I'm looking forward to seeing further development shots as the model progresses! :)
If I knew more about the aircraft itself, I'd love to test it/help out, but I don't think I could be of much use, even with my Tu-154/Russian systems experience!

The Yak-130 was built in a few numbers in the 1990s, and is coming into its own in this decade, so it's nice to see a modern aircraft appear from this part of the world!
I don't know much about it at all myself, and it's been fun to read up on!

If I may say, it is indeed interesting to see the level of apprehension present with this aircraft, along with a number of affirmations that people are waiting for "other aircraft x" over interest in this latest design. From my understanding, IRIS is making an F-18 and who knows what else too.

I know many of the more vocal simulation users were around for a significant portion of when the USSR existed as the "red menace". I honestly think that this has something to do both with the lack of development of that side of aviation within FS now, and the way most of these aircraft are received.
As An-225 said above: "I find it curious that an oddity like the Silence Twister didn't draw out this sort of reaction when it was released."

We've certainly had past releases such as Project Tupolev's products, Samdim's products, and others such as Lotus Simulations that have indeed been met with fanfare, but there's so much more with whatever the latest 737 or Cessna is. Love of familiarity, attitudes against the "former enemy", or a bit of both?

I haven't even seen this Yak mentioned on ANY of the other FS forums I lurk at. Partially due to the fact that this is very recent, I know, but I don't think that's the whole story.


Upcoming FSX Russian aircraft:

IRIS Yak-130
Aerosoft An-2 (special mention of Aerosoft Yekaterinburg, Russia scenery out now for FS9, soon for FSX)
Samdim An-24 series (apparently VC and FSX native model being developed.)
Project Tupolev Ilyushin Il-62M
Ivan Jurcaga MiG series (-23, and some others I can't recall)


Aaaannnd...now everyone can summarily ignore this as the rantings/musings of someone invested in this side of aviation....
 
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