IRL Delta-Wing may be the shape of all racers in 2012.

[Cazzie]

Fug-ug-lee.

http://autos.ca.msn.com/photos/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=23493280

 

[Terry]

I sure hope not, they need to get the fans back. Best way to do it is remove all ground effects and wings and let the drivers start driving again instead of just pointing the front end and holding the gas pedal down.

 

[Panther_99FS]

I'm all for it.
If you look at history, IndyCars have been all about innovation....

 

[Matt Wynn]

now that is just hideous, a lad i went to school with drives in Indy Lights, Martin 'Plowey' Plowman, he was saying the same as you guys, things ugly, he's a driver and he's all for the lack of certain aerodynamics...

 

[eddie]

All you have to do is paint it black and you've got the Batmobile,lol

 

[Curtis P40]

Sorry...I think they are going the wrong way, nothing can beat the old Roasters.
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/386513,11337/1963-Watson-Indy-Roadster_Photo.aspx

Curt

 

[Cazzie]

Sorry...I think they are going the wrong way, nothing can beat the old Roasters.
http://www.conceptcarz.com/view/photo/386513,11337/1963-Watson-Indy-Roadster_Photo.aspx

Curt

I have to agree, but the fans want all that speed. Man, anyone that has never heard the roar of a V-8 Novi engine just cannot relate! Sad when its day ended in a qualifying crash in 1966. They never won an Indy 500, but the damn things were so powerful, they put out 837 hp from 2.8 ccs (168 cid), that's equivalence to 5 bhp per cu. in. One of the problem with the Novi was harnessing all that horsepower, Andy Granatelli tried a 4-wheel drive set up in 1964 to try and harness all, it did not work. But Christ they were unbelievably loud and throaty.

Caz

 

[wombat666]

Check this previous post.
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforu...2012-Enter-The-Delta-Wing&p=365300#post365300

 

[Wing_Z]

I'm all for it.
If you look at history, IndyCars have been all about innovation....

Agreed...time they stopped looking like wannabe F1 racers, and got on with that innovation.
This is wild!
It will transform the way the races are driven too.

 

[Cazzie]

Agreed...time they stopped looking like wannabe F1 racers, and got on with that innovation.
This is wild!
It will transform the way the races are driven too.

Excuse me, which came first, the Indy 500 or F-1, aka then Grand Prix? If you check your history, I would say that Grand Prix cars copied Indy cars upon their inception, because at the time they had to do so in order to compete in the Indy 500, which many did up through the 1950s. It was only after the abominable rear-engine Cooper cars that Indy started copying GP in design. Having covered many USAC and GP races in the 70s and 80s, I can tell you that USAC cars are smaller than F-1 cars, the tires in particular, at least in that day and time.

Caz

 

[Wing_Z]

...It was only after the abominable rear-engine Cooper cars that Indy started copying GP in design...

Yes that's what I'm talking about.
And they are much cruder than the F1 GP cars, hence wannabe.
A Batmobile would break that image and declare itself to be in a different category altogether.

There's a thought: maybe then F1 would take note and produce a set of rules that didn't produce cars that look like remnants in the meat mincer.

 

[Cazzie]

Yes that's what I'm talking about.
And they are much cruder than the F1 GP cars, hence wannabe.
A Batmobile would break that image and declare itself to be in a different category altogether.

There's a thought: maybe then F1 would take note and produce a set of rules that didn't produce cars that look like remnants in the meat mincer.

Next year's F-1 cars could scrap the snow out of my driveway with that damn shovel up front!