Is there an engine sound guru in the forum ?

Hi,

Reinstalled the plane .. made my check and deinstalled again ( not my cup of thee) :)
Checked the Supermarine.cab and edited the starter.XML (as txt)
Seem's possible to edit it for muliti engines and also use the button
It's no prob (no see bobbytrap) if it's for your personnal usage to mod this gauge ....
 
Hi Smilo and Claudius,

You people are really the best (including all the others who pitched in to help) !!! :jump:

Smilo, I printed your recipe down to follow it to a "t" as they say and will give it a go tonight.
I'll keep you posted as to the results that I manage with it... :kilroy:

Thanks again for your kind help ! It is appreciated... :icon29:

And you Claudius, do you think that you could help me a little bit with the formula as I seem to remember from my work with a PC that computers are rather touchy as to "how" we ask something of them...

Any help that you can spare would be most welcome. But whatever the outcome, your help has been appreciated also... :icon29:

Best regards to all,

Fleurdelys
 
Bonjour Smilo,

As I mentioned yesterday, I copied your recipe to make sure that I would abide by your findings entirely.

But before I give you the results of my experiments, I must disagree with you when you say that "you are lazy and missing out" because you are a Ctrl+E and go type. I think that a large portion of simmers don't really care that much about tweaking gauges and levers and what not just to keep the flying immersion total. I, as probably a lot of other simmers, appreciate the beauty and detailing of a cockpit, whether virtual or not, as being a part of the total package and not necessarily because we enjoy the cramped quarters and certainly not because it allows you an unobstructed look at the scenery, which it doesn't by a long margin...

I only sit long enough in a cockpit to land a jet aircraft because I must keep my eyes peeled on the speed and manage some decent straight flying at high speed before I tud myself repeatedly on the tarmac and pray never to get back in that seat again...:isadizzy:

As you may surmise, I'm not really a jet fan although there are some pretty flyable beasts out there... :kilroy:

Anyway, I digress and you probably want to hear about the tests...

That was quite an experience, I must say, and the Beaufighter that I'm working on belched enough smoke to pollute the air for a long time...

I can now choose which engine to start with and when and this was half of my request to start whith. Thank you, Smilo... :icon29:

I could not however reproduce entirely the part where the engine dies out because I last shut down using Ctrl+shift+F1 as specified. I don't know if it is because of the way that FS9 was first set up by me or because I don't have the FS9 update installed.
I could however manage the same by alternating between Ctrl+Shift+F2 and Ctrl+Shift+F3 to obtain this repeat stop-start and all the smoke that goes with it.

This part of the effect is moderately good to be honest as the engine does start and stop, and doesn't really work to get there as the YouTube movies show us when we are dealing with radial engines.
But I'll not loose this info about the engine start selection that you gave me as it is really essential to the visual pleasure of an aircraft startup sequence, I believe.

Cheers,

Fleurdelys
 
Hi,

and the Beaufighter
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Can you give me a link for download this plane and also eventually the panel (important) so I can make a experiment with the gauge
I don't promise anything but can't know if I don't test :)
 
allow me to clarify;
I am, by no means, proficient in FS9.
heck, I just picked it up a year ago
after moving over from CFS.
yeah, CFS, not 2 or 3...the original.
I am learning as I go,
much like everyone else here.

it's kind of funny,
last night I fired up CFS
and manually started a Hurricane
for the first time ever!
I have been flying that sim
for who knows, how long
and never did a manual startup
until last night.

the sequence I've offered is just another short cut,
both for startup and shut down.
there is nothing there to do with the electrical system,
such as the master switch, magnetos, starter buttons, etc.
I intend on looking into "full" sequence startup and shutdown procedures.

I like the idea of a "start sequence" pop up window.
one that would contain everything necessary for a manual start,
then it could go away after startup is finished.
it shouldn't be to hard to construct,
after the proper gauges are located.

oh goody, another project! :jump:
 
claudius24 said:
Hi,



Can you give me a link for download this plane and also eventually the panel (important) so I can make a experiment with the gauge
I don't promise anything but can't know if I don't test :)
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Bonjour Claudius,

Thanks for taking the time to look into this project...

I would gladly send you a copy of the plane that I'm working on but, alas I am not the original author and for some unknown reason, the VC which works OK in the original airplane is disabled in the model that I'm tweaking.

The author, Bismark13, was kind enough to lend me his FSC file to thinker and tweak with it although it is still far from being finished...
By tweaking, I really mean that I'm adding details to the original which was quite good in CFS2.
You may download the original in the Warbird Archive by choosing Bismark13 (download #25).
(Sorry but the shortcut link does not seem to work).

The model used is that of the Night Beaus, the Mk.IF.

Although for CFS2 originally as I said, it ports quite easily to FS9 and I can send you a copy of my aircraft and panel CFG files if you prefer. Just PM me, if needed.

Here are a few pics of the ongoing project to wet your appetite...

Hoping that this will be sufficient to get you started,

Thanks again,

Fleurdelys
 
Hi,

OK .. I have this one from age .. so when time allow I will experiment ...
Certainly tomorrow I will have some positive or negative results for you :)
 
claudius24 said:
Hi,

Sorry but after multiples attempts I do not have positive results.
Problem unsolved .... :frown:
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Hi Claudius,

Sorry to hear that the problem is still a problem. Thanks again for your efforts at helping me solve it ...
I feel that all these efforts have brought us a step closer to bettering the sim for all prop lovers...
I appreciate... :icon29:

Cheers,

Fleurdelys
 
Hey fellas. As reference, have you downloaded and tried the Dinfia IA-35
 It has twin engines (with start up smoke)
....You might have a look as it may have what you are looking for :)
 
as promised, I installed the Dinfia IA-35
and checked out the start up effects.
in a word, FANTASTIC!!!

in the interest of fairness,
I searched AvSim and FlightSim for engine start up effects.
there, I found several start up smoke effects that will fit the bill.
all seemed pretty much the same,
plenty of smoke as the engines start up.
icandy02.zip being the best, color wise,
but dc-5_exh.zip, kicks out a little more smoke for a longer period.
the problem I have is that the smoke is gray and white.
I may be mistaken, but I thought a rich mixture
would produce more black and dark gray smoke
until the engine gets going,
then it would turn to white and finally dissipate.
yeah, I know, picky, picky, picky.
this is where, IMHO, the startup effect for the Dinfia IA-35
is far superior to the others.
I could go on and on,
but my words can not do justice to this fine effect...
I intend on adding it to ALL of my radial aircraft.
need I say more?

well, yes, actually I do;
the file is called fx_msd18sIA35
and it goes into the FS9 Effects folder.
now, open the Aircraft.cfg of the AC that you want the effect.
scroll down to [effects]
and add the line, startup=fx_msd18sIA35
(or whatever startup effect you want to use)
if there is another startup=xxx line,
put a /// in front of it so it will not work, but it is saved.
anyway, click Save or press Ctrl+S for the same result.
fire up FS9, pick your plane, jump into spot view,
start her up and see if you like it.
I know I do.

--------------:kilroy:------------
BTW, many thanks, again, to OleBoy
for pointing me to the Dinfia IA-35 :salute:
 
That startup smoke effect fx_msd18sIA35 is Miltons from the D-18, IA35 was added to the file name. Compare the two they are identical.
 
Terry said:
That startup smoke effect fx_msd18sIA35 is Miltons from the D-18, IA35 was added to the file name. Compare the two they are identical.
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I just did and you are absolutely correct!
hence the ms in the fx_msd18s, aye?
one learns something every day,
if one is lucky!

may thanks, Terry, for pointing that out
and many thanks to Milton
for creating the finest engine start smoke effect out there.

I sure hope fleurdelys sees this.
 
smilo said:
I just did and you are absolutely correct!
hence the ms in the fx_msd18s, aye?
one learns something every day,
if one is lucky!

may thanks, Terry, for pointing that out
and many thanks to Milton
for creating the finest engine start smoke effect out there.

I sure hope fleurdelys sees this.
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Milton gave permission, check the readme.
 
yup, I missed that the first time through.

so, is it the same as fx_Cranky_A26,
with a name change?
sure looks close to these tired old eyes.
 
smilo said:
I just did and you are absolutely correct!
hence the ms in the fx_msd18s, aye?
one learns something every day,
if one is lucky!

may thanks, Terry, for pointing that out
and many thanks to Milton
for creating the finest engine start smoke effect out there.

I sure hope fleurdelys sees this.
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Sure did Smilo and you are right about thanking Milton for this effect as it is THE ONE that I use on all my radial engines although I Have brought small tune ups at times, depending on the planes. But this said, the start up smoke is part of a global solution to the start up sequence of a plane. My original beef was directed more at the sound effect which is complemented by smoke and what not... :kilroy:

Cheers,

Fleurdelys
 
Shut Down and Start Up

Settings , Assignments .
Engine Fuel Valves Open/Closed . Engines 1 2 3 4 , Assigned to E F G H My Keys .
When you press Each key to Close Each Fuel Valve on Each Engine and the Prop Stops .
Press each Key again to open Each Fuel Valve .
Starter ON/Off . Engines 1 2 3 4 , Assigned to A B C D My Keys .
Press Key to Start First Engine , after Engine Starts Press Key to turn Starter Off .
No Other Engine Will Start Until You Press Key You Assign To It .
 
I Use This Plane .
Note : I did not have to change any files in the plane .
 
IVANOW said:
Settings , Assignments .
Engine Fuel Valves Open/Closed . Engines 1 2 3 4 , Assigned to E F G H My Keys .
When you press Each key to Close Each Fuel Valve on Each Engine and the Prop Stops .
Press each Key again to open Each Fuel Valve .
Starter ON/Off . Engines 1 2 3 4 , Assigned to A B C D My Keys .
Press Key to Start First Engine , after Engine Starts Press Key to turn Starter Off .
No Other Engine Will Start Until You Press Key You Assign To It .
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Simple yet brilliant! Seems obvious now you've said it. Nice one.
 
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