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It's like an episode of Ashes to Ashes in London ......

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.... my name is Andy; I had an accident and woke up in 1982 ....

Well, that is what it feels like; a Conservative government in power and riots on the streets of London, sparked off by a police shooting - although it is now totally out of control. I'm just waiting for Cameron to declare war on Argentina. :-(
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just low life chavs wanting an excuse to loot shops, i highly doubt 99% of em give a flying **** about the shooting :kilroy:

then again, same coulda happened in 82, i wouldnt know, my parents hadnt even met then! :icon_lol:
 
stiz said:
then again, same coulda happened in 82, i wouldnt know, my parents hadnt even met then! :icon_lol:
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neither had mine :icon_lol: still.... i guess it could be worse.... :monkies: Edit: ok it got a tiny bit worse, minor issues in Birmingham, theft and vandalism mostly... how thats different from a normal day in Birmingham i don't know.....
 
Being an old git, I can remember the situation back then all too clearly.

I agree with your comment about the lowlife chavs Stiz, it was the same back then as well; and, yes, most of them could probably care less about the shooting - except ......

These kids have lost faith in the authorities; they think nobody cares about them, that everybody is out to get them, that they have no future - they don't care anymore. Their trust in the Met is at rock bottom (who haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the past couple of years) so it's no surprise to me that it has kicked off again. And the politicians and the Police are trotting out the same platitudes they did 30 years ago.

Very sad, and deeply depressing.
 
now theres an idea! load up troop ships full of chavs, drop them off in argentina... give it 3 years the place'd be like Faliraki or Ayia Napa or Ibiza or Benidorm or.... ok i could continue! my response... "Hello Olympic Airways? yeah 1 for Thessaloniki.... when? oh.... when can you fit me in?" :icon_lol:

still, at least the Argies are playing reasonably nicely, no offense meant to any Argentinians, thats history :salute:
 
AndyG43 said:
These kids have lost faith in the authorities; they think nobody cares about them, that everybody is out to get them, that they have no future - they don't care anymore. Their trust in the Met is at rock bottom (who haven't exactly covered themselves in glory over the past couple of years) so it's no surprise to me that it has kicked off again. And the politicians and the Police are trotting out the same platitudes they did 30 years ago.
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yea its no suprise its kicked off but its still no excuse for looting, its not exactly like their robbing food stores for food, its all electronics and sports clothes shops, all "trendy" stuff, fed up with things and want people to help you? go smash parliment buildings up, that might do something, burning down the local aldis, peoples homes and looting jjb sports? well ... that'll get you as far as every riot before em .. absolutly no where, well, cept the nick of course.
 
I just came back from London via Victoria Station.
All seems calm, apart from the high police presence. I was only in Westminster though, not in the other affected areas.
 
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yea its no suprise its kicked off but its still no excuse for looting, its not exactly like their robbing food stores for food, its all electronics and sports clothes shops, all "trendy" stuff, fed up with things and want people to help you? go smash parliment buildings up, that might do something, burning down the local aldis, peoples homes and looting jjb sports? well ... that'll get you as far as every riot before em .. absolutly no where, well, cept the nick of course.
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Like I said, deeply depressing.
 
I am very sorry to see this , It is such a pity.
I do feel saddened by all of this..
Needless actions, that do no good for anyone..
 
When people start rioting and looting like that, they end up doing themselves more harm than good.

Hopefully, it will settle down soon.
 
Just to keep this in perspective, London is one of the biggest cities in the world with 7.8 million population. The "riots" involve a few hundred young people on 4 or 5 street corners.
The news media are having a field day, it's a good story for them with spectacular pictures of a furniture store burning, and the politicians are using it as another excuse to have a poke at each other.
 
what a load of twoddle ... seriosly, just because your "deprived" (how many will have iphones, sky supscription, free houseing, benifits etc) doesnt give you the right to burn down someone else livelyhood/home, i'm not rich, dont live in a fancy house or fancy flat, no steady job and i'm certainly not happy about how the country or the local area is being run, but that doesnt mean i'm going to go into town and smash the local currys up over it and take a nice wide screen TV whilst i'm at it!

You make your own luck, dont wanna get shot by the police? dont carry a gun, even if its hidden in a sock. Dont want to live in a filthy house .. then rudy clean it, bin collections free! Also if they hate liveing here so much i'm sure if you went through all of em they'd be a fair people customs would be intrested in haveing a word with. Sterotypeing? yes .. but lets face it, its prolly true.
 
I always thought London Bobbies didn't carry (or allowed) side arms. If someone could correct this for me. Thanks.
 
That certainly used to be the case and in many cases still is but with the increase of gun crime I believe every police force in the UK maintains an 'armed response unit' (or several in the larger cities). These units do carry weapons (sidearms and/or rifles) although they are usually kept inside a vehicle until required.

Police units tasked to airports and seaports carry guns 24/7 as far as I remember. It's been 18 years since I was last in the UK but I remember finding it a shock to see British police officers carrying assault rifles in plain view at the airport.
 
Larry, you are right, the ARU's (Armed Response Units, in Londons case CO/SO19 are more than likely on high readiness, weapons usually Glock series 17 or 26(MET/London Police) pistol, and Heckler & Koch MP7, MP5, G36 maybe even a Steyr AUG or two, maybe even a smattering of G3KA4's or HK417 for longer range) are kept out of sight unless shots are fired, and even then they cannot fire unless fired upon OR cleared to if there is immediate threat to life, 9 times out of 10 they'd resort to the darned tasers, but NOT if the other person has a firearm, as that jolt hits you, you spasm and you have an ND (Negligent Discharge), it sucks, i'm all for bobbies carrying their good ole' revolvers/sidearms, same as i'm not opposed to more CCTV, any Int is good Int until proved otherwise... back on topic...

i'm with Stiz, as stereotypical as it sounds there will no doubt be individuals who may ping the radars of HM Customs, darn nanny state getting protective again...
 
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