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JF Lockheed Electra released!

Not bought it yet Dan but I can add that it's at an introductory offer of £11.99 from JF until 1600(UK time) 18th Sep:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)
 
one bug - the elevator trim animation is reversed...apply nose up trim and see the elevator trim tabs deflect downward, which would induce nose down flight attitude...oops
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Do you think Aussie trim wheels work backwards to ours in the Northern Hemisphere?? Pat was on the beta team for the FSAddon Anson and that does it too:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)
 
yes the price was $18.99 US and I was able to apply a 150 point discount so for $16.55 or so this plane is a real bargain...with or without JF points

also - huge fact - JF allows for endless downloads and makes the process of purchasing and downloading and replacing files BULLETPROOF - All distributors should really take note and thank you
AH for using Just Flight as the distributor in this case.
 
DaveB said:
Do you think Aussie trim wheels work backwards to ours in the Northern Hemisphere?? Pat was on the beta team for the FSAddon Anson and that does it too:biggrin-new:

ATB
DaveB:)
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no its a bug - because as I say - the plane with the nose up trim applied flies in a nose up attitude - but - the tabs are deflected downward in the external view.
you can see it in the second image I posted above... landing gear extended, flaps full down and nose up trim applied - but - the tabs are full down on the elevator - that would lift the tail and cause extreme nose DOWN flight but as you can see I have the elevators neutral - letting the trim handle the approach attitude
 
another thought on trim tabs

heywooood said:
no its a bug - because as I say - the plane with the nose up trim applied flies in a nose up attitude - but - the tabs are deflected downward in the external view.
you can see it in the second image I posted above... landing gear extended, flaps full down and nose up trim applied - but - the tabs are full down on the elevator - that would lift the tail and cause extreme nose DOWN flight but as you can see I have the elevators neutral - letting the trim handle the approach attitude
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airflow over the elevator trim tab in the down position forces the upward deflection of the elevator itself, which increases the upward pitch of the nose and vice versa. If the elevator trim tab was in the up position airflow would force the elevator down, resulting in a downward pitch. This visual effect can be observed on most any model with animated trim tabs. seems counter intuitive given the inputs one makes on their controller, but it works the same way with real aircraft. Maybe not a bug?
 
I think you missed the joke!!:very_drunk:

Nose up trim should have the elevator trim tab facing down. Are you saying this is wrong? Airflow under the elevator will hit the tab forcing the elevator up.

I thought you meant the trim wheel. If you trim nose up on the Anson, the trim wheel animation is forward (houses get bigger) and that's definitely wrong.;)

Pity there's no BOAC paint otherwise I'd have this now.
ATB
DaveB:)
 
Ok - then it must be correct - odd that the trim tabs would show that much deflection but the elevator hardly to none at all... But yes I am forgetting that the tabs are attached to a moving part - doh!
 
Yep, the elevator tabs as well as the prop and mixture levers are reversed from the throttle...throttle is as should be while the prop and mixture are acting as full but showing minimum in the sim.......otherwise a very nice model and flight dynamics.......good value...just small niggles to be addressed.
 
DaveB said:
I think you missed the joke!!:very_drunk:

Nose up trim should have the elevator trim tab facing down. Are you saying this is wrong? Airflow under the elevator will hit the tab forcing the elevator up.

I thought you meant the trim wheel. If you trim nose up on the Anson, the trim wheel animation is forward (houses get bigger) and that's definitely wrong.;)

Pity there's no BOAC paint otherwise I'd have this now.
ATB
DaveB:)
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indeed, my apologies to all...
 
ksheadley said:
Yep, the elevator tabs as well as the prop and mixture levers are reversed from the throttle...throttle is as should be while the prop and mixture are acting as full but showing minimum in the sim........
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I don't have the aircraft yet (will shortly) and don't know it in depth, so I may be off-base here, but... any chance that the reversed prop/mixture orientation is correct for the period? This was sometimes the case with other 1930's aircraft - early-mark Spitfires come to mind. Seems like a pretty big bug to miss in testing, so I'm wondering if it's actually correct. Hope an Electra-knowledgeable person can let us know.
 
It looks great and much kudos for that, but I seem to be having issues with the electrics. I can't turn off the taxi and landing lights while keeping the nav lights on. Anyone else having this same issue?
 
Yep, nav light switch on, lights up the nav and landing lights on the aircraft not the ground. Taxi light switch does nothing. Landing light switch on, lights up the ground and a dim strobing landing/taxi lights on the aircraft nose.
 
Yokes can be toggled off individually using the switches beneath the transponder. Switch marked "TGY1" will toggle pilot's yoke, "TGY2" toggles the co-pilot yoke.
The switch labelled "QSTART"will enable quickstart for cntrl/e starts. All in the manual.:engel016:
 
Few quirks, lovely plane.

Getting the same lights issue as described above, and with the trim, and I don't seem to get any response from my keyboard assignments for trim at all - difficult to tweak flight while viewing the beautiful model in external view while popping repeatedly to the VC to adjust pitch. Other than those two things, so far am really enjoying this plane - am thinking a virtual Pacific Alaska Airways is about to be born on my machine.
 
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