JUST TOO MUCH FUN WITH PHP2

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Bill Kestell

Charter Member
The ink is barely dry and I'm already messin' with it. (gettin' to be like Kelti, ya' know?)

I took the liberty of trickin' my game out just a tad with some B24guy's OH skins for the F4F, SBD and TBD as well as finding an early skin for the FDG C-47. I don't know who all the creators are besides The B24Guy... so I don't want to upload a "fix" ... just look for repaints of the stock M/S aircraft (you may have to re-name the F4F-3 stuff to read F4F4 as I did) and repaints for the FDG C-47 ... but I think the search is worth the effort. What do you think?


BTW ... hats off and a BIG HOORAH for the PHP2 crew! WELL DONE!:salute:



My SBD parked with her sisters at EWA ... warming up.

An F4F3 parked with her sisters at EWA ... also warming up.

F4F3 on take off and just passing over some R4D's and SBD at EWA.

Just landed and taxied my SBD up on Ford Island ... ready to shut her down.


Damn ... this PHP2 is ONE SUPER-FINE ADDITION!
 
Bill Just wait until the rest comes out and than the real fun will begin.Once the ships are finished I can tweak the missions and see what the fps are.


Talon
 
Just be sure to get all of those nice looking aircraft parked really close together all ready to defend against ground sappers hiding in the pineapple fields!
 
I have at least the same fun here...lol.

Seeing the pics, I have a question:

The red and white tails tripes have been used when exactly?
I have a profile, saying they went together with the neutrality star and were removed with it. At least the second part is true, I think - butwhen were they introduced??

And more important: Did the planes at PH feature them?
I looked on the net, but on all pics taken after the attack, there are mostly burnt fin skeletons.
 
Jaxon,

I'm pretty sure that the stripes and the meatball were all in use through the Battle of the Coral Sea (May 1942). They were dropped just prior to the Battle of Midway (June 4) 1942.

Bars with a red outline were used for a short period in the early summer of 1943 and then the red outline was dropped in late summer leaving the blue roundel with white star and white bars.

In 1947, with the stand up of the US Air Force, the red bar was placed in the white bars and it remains that way today.
 
Hi Jaxon,

Here is something that might help. I had a photo that showed some AC having the meatball and some not. I will see if I can find it.

Regards,
B24Guy
 
HA !!!

And here I thought *I* was the only guy modifying stuff (Yeah, Right !)

I spent a good part of the morning adding red center dots to all the PHP project USAAF planes that didn't have them... Heeeeeeee !!!

Cabin Fever CAN be Fun !
SC
:kilroy:
 
I know already about the different types of roundels.
The question is: When the colourful prewar peacetime markings were overpainted in blue, at first the normal small roundel with meatball was used.

But were the fins directly painted with the stripes, or were these stripes applied after the pearl harbor attack? I have pics of planes in blue and early roundels with and without stripes!?

Sure is, they were used later, at Coral sea and were removed prior to Midway.

"Neutrality Star"
The star was first applied to the fuselages on the colorful prewar markings, when the planes were on Neutrality patrol. I don`t know if this is a (semi-)official name, but I read it somewhere else before.

See my Ranger site for comparison:
http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/PTO_Allies_USN_CV-04_Ranger.html
 
Some more, from the Enterprise, dated late 1941..


Also this LINK showing the tail of a PBY - in blue.
And this LINK showing the tail of a B-17 at Hickam - in green.

In the meantime I think, the red stripes were first used from early 1942 on!?
 
Had some PM-conversion with Fibber about the open question of the tail stripes introducing date.

I guess this is solved, Fibber found the last piece in this puzzle:

January 5, 1942
National Aircraft Insignia were returned to both right and left, upper and lower wing surfaces.
Rudder markings were changed to 13 Red and White horizontal stripes
(http://www.jcs-group.com/military/rank/usafaircraft.html)

Well done, Sir!

:applause:
:ernae:
 
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