Macchi C.202 skins / updates posted Parts 1 and 2!

[kelticheart]

Oh, yes!

.....I knew about the external loads. See my thread:

Bonjour François!

I know you knew...... It was meant more to keep Manuele Villa (MVG3d) assured I keep a vigil eye on the whole project. He's rightly very precise about the conversion of his FS9 works and he possesses the most extensive knowledge about Regia Aeronautica that I ever known before starting being in touch with him.

Members of the Villa's family were actually involved in development and maintenance of Italian aircraft during WWII, and Manuele, when he was still residing in Italy, wrote articles for the top aviation magazine published in this country. His aviation history knowledge goes from the early pioneers to present time drones era.

Truly, and I am saying it for everybody here, Manuele ranks among the most knowledgeable SOH members we have here. This conversion project will gift all of us with the most important models of the Aeronautica Macchi/Castoldi (the name of Aermacchi's chief designer) 202 Folgore production runs during WWII.

If you send your complete dp work to my e-mail address, I will include it as an alternative choice for the "What if" lovers, thank you. As far as the "official" dp, deriving from Manuele's comprehensive creations, shall be strictly historical to respect Manuele Villa's wishes, to which I agree with 100%.

...The major aim of my GUNS section is to have a stream of bullets per gun, and to make them converge to a central point....

Right! Now you're talking like a true combat sim aficionado!....

A little suggestion, that you might know very well already: if you raise slightly your gunsight convergence point in the panel.cfg, you will get a very nice high deflection shooting compensation factor.

I mean here:

[VIEWS]
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VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=x.x, x.x, x.x


DAVE:

I am going to ask Mario, via PM, to match the original MDLS with his conversion filenames. I think I got them all, but I want solid evidence I am matching the correct skins to the right models. It beats me why this change of names...

I propose to restore the original MDL filenames in the conversion pack: what do you think?

I learned more about the three original FS9 packs yesterday:

C202_v01.zip: it contains mid-production models from series 7 through series 9;
C202_EP1.zip: it contains earlier, series 3 production runs, plus corrections and an additional repaint for the previous v.01 release;
C202_EP2.zip: it contains later, series 12-13 production runs.


Cheers!
KH

 

[dvslats]

DAVE:

I am going to ask Mario, via PM, to match the original MDLS with his conversion filenames. I think I got them all, but I want solid evidence I am matching the correct skins to the right models. It beats me why this change of names...

I propose to restore the original MDL filenames in the conversion pack: what do you think?

I learned more about the three original FS9 packs yesterday:

C202_v01.zip: it contains mid-production models from series 7 through series 9;
C202_EP1.zip: it contains earlier, series 3 production runs, plus corrections and an additional repaint for the previous v.01 release;
C202_EP2.zip: it contains later, series 12-13 production runs.


Cheers!
KH

Hi Stef,

I'm having some problems replying on the forums today.

3rd try, I'm not sure Mario would know...but you can try.

I think the naming is very important. There a variations in the models according to the readme.

Dave

 

[kelticheart]

Exactly...

Hi Stef,

I'm having some problems replying on the forums today.....

Me too!

First I don't get the "Reply with quote" option, I edited it manually, then my later correction duplicated the reply........

And this is not the first time it happens to me either!

Stef

 

[mvg3d]

Hi Friends,
Thank You Stefano !!!

A little present for You all...

This is a picture of the members of the 1926 Norge's expedition to Kings Bay (with Gen.Nobile, R.Amudsen & N.Ellsworth), my Grandfather is the first on the left side.



Roald Amudsen with N.Ellsworth and Cdr.Richard Byrd, picture picked by my Grandfather.



The Norge

 

[kelticheart]

WOW!

Hi Friends,
Thank You Stefano !!!

A little present for You all...

This is a picture of the members of the 1926 Norge's expedition to Kings Bay (with Gen.Nobile, R.Amudsen & N.Ellsworth), my Grandfather is the first on the left side........

What did I say, folks?

You are welcome, Manuele, I only spoke the truth, which I usually do getting me often enough in troubles.........

Thank you for all your volunteer work for FS9 and your generous support during these conversion drives of your models. Not everybody is so willing to send around source files of their creation like you do.

Cheers!
Stef

P.S.: I keep forgetting to acknowledge the helping hand our friend Voyager is lending by testing everything we are posting to this thread and reporting back. Thank you very much Voyager!!! Your contribution is being appreciated a lot!

 

[kelticheart]

To François

Forgive me François!

I was so busy with other things I completely missed you already attached here your dp work! Sorry!

I didn't even understand you were telling me you harmonized the Folgore guns for both 2- and 4-weapon versions.....

I duly downloaded the txt file you attached and I will use your harmonized gun data for the historical dps as well.

Merci beaucoup!
Stef

 

[voyager]

kelticheart

Glad to contribute what I can. The 202 and 205 are my favorite aircraft.

voyager

 

[misson]

I dont know what is happening with this site, because i´ve replied a private massage to Kelti and it seems that i didnt. Simply it is lost in some where in the net....
STEFANO:
I dont know which textures belongs to each model. I only have the gmax sources sent by Manuele to me. no more info.
I simply changed after export the model , the name:
MC202_MVG_EM_FULL to MC202_CFS_EM_FULL (only change MVG by a CFS) so in that way , we know what model from which source comes.
I´ll see what i can do but i recomend the trial and error, works or it doesnt such texture file.

 

[voyager]

Everyone,

I went through the three packs, c202_v01, c202ep1, and c202_EP2. As far as I can see the models and their textures are as follows-

C.202 FOLOGORE 2W MVG model.7_2W texture=C202_
C.202 FOLOGORE 4W MVG model.7_4W texture=C202_
C.202 FOLOGORE 2W MVG model.3.1 texture=C202_
C.202 FOLOGORE 4W MVG model.3AS_1 texture=C202_
C.202 FOLOGORE 2W MVG model.3AS_2 texture=C202_
C.202 FOLOGORE EARLY model.3AS__2_LATE texture=C202_

mission,

These two are the ones that use the C202LP_ textures if that is any help to you.

C.202 FOLOGORE 2W LATE MVG model.XIII_2W texture=C202LP_
C.202 FOLOGORE 4W LATE MVG model.XIII_4W texture=C202LP_


voyager

 

[voyager]

mission,

Looking at the list in your post I think that MC202_MVG_LP_2W_FULL.gmax and MC202_MVG_LP_4W_FULL.gmax should be the two that would use the C202LP_ textures.

voyager

 

[kelticheart]

I dont know what is happening with this site, because i´ve replied a private massage to Kelti and it seems that i didnt. Simply it is lost in some where in the net....
STEFANO:
I dont know which textures belongs to each model. I only have the gmax sources sent by Manuele to me. no more info.
I simply changed after export the model , the name:
MC202_MVG_EM_FULL to MC202_CFS_EM_FULL (only change MVG by a CFS) so in that way , we know what model from which source comes.
I´ll see what i can do but i recomend the trial and error, works or it doesnt such texture file. ​

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Hi Mario,

don't worry, I think you're not the only one Dave and I had strange thread behaviour yesterday. Fortunately, I was able to delete my duplicated reply.

Double don't worry: I straightened out everything with Manuele yesterday. He sent me back the mdl match list, with the old and the new mdl names.

I restored the original mdl filenames and matched each one with their correct set of repaints. Right now I am in the process of giving each one a satin-like dynamic shine, proper for matte paint camo finishes used by Regia Aeronautica.
I am also testing each mdl, sent to me by Dave, against each livery painted by MVG3d to see if every detail is ok. We are talking here of 8 models!
The CFS2 conversion pack will embrace all the three packs MVG3d uploaded for FS9.

So far, I am happy to report that the work you did, unjamming the control surfaces, and the work Dave did on the undercarriage wheels, is working like a charm in the models I tested to date.

I am planning also to ask Captain Kurt's contribution, if he has the time, by checking for us the hit boxes in the two damage profiles, 2- and 4-weapon. They need to be checked if they work properly for this fabulous Folgore. I'll write a PM to him, asking for his ok and his e-mail address.

Until next report,
KH

 

[Panther_99FS]

Man this thread brings back some extremely fond memories!

 

[glh]

Man this thread brings back some extremely fond memories!

Got any pictures of her, Panther ??

 

[kelticheart]

Conversion WIP report

Hi everybody!

I truly wished to be able to release this M.C. 202 conversion as a Happy Easter gift.

It looks like it will be impossible, I am sorry. The team involved in this project got its appetites up and right now there's a completely new and historically sound Flight Model being developed. Let me just anticipate it's the owner of this thread that is sitting day and night in his workshop working on it! I am doing historical document researches for him.

I believe it will be the most accurate CFS2 rendition of this beautiful aircraft to date.

After all, I think it's always better uploading a good job than rushing an approximate one.

I will keep all of you updated.

KH

 

[Corrado5834]

Upping this thread just to say a Big Thank You to Captain Kurt for doing these repaints.
I am enjoying any single one of them.
Reinstalled CFS2 after long just to try them out.

Also found a way to fix the tail gear problem, just replace with attached MDL.

Corrado

BTW
This MDL has spawned a new FSX variant of late at IS4G.

 

[misson]

Thank u Corrado for the update.
Mario

 

[Corrado5834]

Just uploaded in CFS2-AIRCRAFT-ITALIAN the Fix/update for Captain Kurt's portover to CFS2 of the IS4G FS9 MC-202 in the opening post.
The patch:

- fixes the non working tail gear
- fills some holes in the virtual cockpit
- adds a sand filter as an external loadout
- adds windshield as an external loadout

patch is for MC202_85-2 but can be applied to the rest as well.

Corrado

 

[Corrado5834]

IS4G Mc-202 FS9 to CFS2 portover fix / update.zip

A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category CFS 2 Aircraft - Italian

Description: Update / fix for Captain Kurt’s CFS2 portover, including some very nice repaints, of the FS9 IS4G Macchi 202 available at sim-outhouse.

This patch:

- fixes the non working tail gear
- fills some holes in the virtual cockpit
- adds a sand filter as an external loadout
- adds windshield as an external loadout

Author: Corrado La Posta.

In cooperation with Kurt Schwabauer & Mario Misson.

www.isoliti4gatti.it

To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit IS4G Mc-202 FS9 to CFS2 portover fix / update.zip
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.

 

[Captain Kurt]

To all,

Coming soon:

I am updating all of my Macchi C.202 aircraft / paint packages with the updated model, sand filter and armored windscreen. I will also have one new skin that has the 7.7mm wing guns. I will upload in the next few days.

 

[gius]

Excellent skin Kurt, thanks a lot!!!
Giuseppe