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Martin Baker to the rescue...again

bearcat241

bearcat241

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What would modern military aviation be today without him. :salute:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/picturethis/2012464761_pt_crash.html?syndication=rss

http://www.albertalocalnews.com/news/provincial/CF-18_pilot_injured_back_99315864.html

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Martin Baker used to give a lapel pin to aircrewmen who ejected operationally with their ejection seat.

Did you notice that the two engines on the F-18 have different settings on their exhaust petals? Engine malfunction?
 
That company has certainly saved the lives of a lot of pilots!

And the peace of mind it has provided all these many years simply by "being there" is profound!

Ken
 
I hope that RCAF pilot lives a long and happy life. :) The photos show how the seat can compensate for low altitude (and outside the envelope to some degree) by firing him upward after he leaves the cockpit. And even then he was on the ground right after the canopy blossomed. A very close call.
 
Jagdflieger said:
Martin Baker used to give a lapel pin to aircrewmen who ejected operationally with their ejection seat.

Did you notice that the two engines on the F-18 have different settings on their exhaust petals? Engine malfunction?
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Wow.. I see what you are saying they are different from each other..

That is something I don't remember seeing this on other F-18's..
At take off they seen to mirror each other..If I remember correctly..

These seem quite different then normal on the Crashing F 18..
 
There's video of this crash. The pilot was doing a high alpha pass and just before the plane goes out of control you can hear a series of pops. I'm guessing compressor stall on the right engine since as soon as it pops, the plane immediately yaws right. Thanks to the low airspeed, I'm figuring that there wasn't enough airflow over the rudders to keep her straight and the pilot had to pull the handle.

Edit:

It may be Martin Baker perfected the zero-zero ejection seat but the F-18 is equipped with an ACES II seat.
 
Brian_Gladden said:
....It may be Martin Baker perfected the zero-zero ejection seat but the F-18 is equipped with an ACES II seat.
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Hmmm...OK, i'm game; i guess we could start a technical debate here about which block the airframe was produced from:

Quote:

The F/A-18C and D models are the result of a block upgrade in 1987 incorporating upgraded radar, avionics, and the capacity to carry new missiles such as the AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missile and AGM-65 Maverick and AGM-84 Harpoon air-to-surface missiles. Other upgrades include the Martin-Baker NACES (Navy Aircrew Common Ejection Seat), and a self-protection jammer. A synthetic aperture ground mapping radar enables the pilot to locate targets in poor visibility conditions. C and D models delivered since 1989 also include an improved night attack capability, consisting of the Hughes AN/AAR-50 thermal navigation pod, the LoralAN/AAS-38 NITE HawkFLIR (forward looking infrared array) targeting pod, night vision goggles, and two full-color (previously monochrome) MFDs and a color moving map.

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And then there's the odd omission of the FA-18 from among the list of other contemporary Aces II users at these sites:

http://www.ejectionsite.com/acesii.htm
http://www.ejectionsite.com/acesiitech.htm

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And finally, since i'm not a real Hornet driver, i think i'll go with the word of the actual Hornet pilot in this episode. WRT what ejection seat was involved, he would know where to direct the credit, since its his job to know his equipment.
 
HouseHobbit said:
Wow.. I see what you are saying they are different from each other..

That is something I don't remember seeing this on other F-18's..
At take off they seen to mirror each other..If I remember correctly..

These seem quite different then normal on the Crashing F 18..
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They are supposed to be symetrical at all times. The vanes open and close by an automated system designed to coincide with the thrust output of the engine -- at least that's my understanding based on reading about them and never being issued an official -1 to see the details.

That's why when you see the obvious differences in the aperture, it is a compelling indication of a flame out or other type of engine failure.

Being that he was that low and that slow, he had this happen at the "worst possible time." Which left him with no alternative except to punch out.

If he had altitude, he could have traded it for airspeed to glide and get the engine restarted. If he had airspeed, he could have retained enough rudder effect to counter the asymetric thrust from having one engine at full power and the other dead. But, it seems clear he had neither!

But, he had "the seat!"

Ken
 
A successfull Club initiation can be a trick. My dad sent me a link to a sight that listed the names of men (and some women) who died while ejecting. It had their picture, name, rank, Service, age, type of plane, and location. It was a long list, and they were mostly in the 25 to 32 age range. It took some time to go through the list, and afterwards, I just sat there listlessly for a good while.
 
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