MaskRider Gilbert Islands

[bearcat241]

Ok Kevin...thanks for the info. Man this stuff is complicated sometimes ...i should stick to combat

 

[Shadow Wolf 07]

Stuart277: I see a great contrast between the coastal areas and the open sea in your screenshots. I use the stock water textures with the Pactex and it looks more natural. If you want them, I can send them to you.

Cheers:

SW07

 

[MaskRider]

stuart277 question

Hiya Stuart,

I was wondering if you could take a top down screenshot of Kuria or Aranuka island and post it here on this thread?

Thanks.

MR

PS: here is what Kuria should look like- making allowances of course for differing texture installs.

 

[Worthless]

A few pics. My water is Pacific Blue.

 

[stuart277]

Hi MR
Here a the screenshots of Kuria and Aranuka.
Clearly I have a problem.

A lot of the other islands have similar problems.
Cheers
Stuart

 

[MaskRider]

You neglected to either (a) deactivate your other Mask Rider Micronesia scenery folders or else (b) delete the specific scenery files listed here and in the readme.

Also you need to change the runway entries in you airbases.dat file to the new ones included in the scenery pack.

Tsk! Tsk! ;^)

MR

PS You might consider installing the Pacific Blues water texture pack at some point.

 

[Worthless]

A few more!

 

[Fibber]

MR.......

.....I have a slight inquiry here. I have everything apparently running right EXCEEEEEEEEEEEPT I seem to have a HUMONGOUS green building on two of the bases that is waaaaaaaaaaay out of scale. The one on Abalang Atoll sits at the end of ,and abutts, the runway. It then continues out over the water at the back.
The one at Abemama sits at the side of the runway and dominates the scenery.
Are these left overs or did I pick up a bad d\l somewhere?
Not having muck luck trying to get a screen shot here. Mainly because I forgot how!

 

[MaskRider]

Hiya Fibber,

Please post a screenshot!

MR

Ooop... didn't see the bit about forgetting how to do a screeie. Just hit your prt sc key. That will save a shot to the clipboard. Then open some sort of image processor- PaintShopPro or whatever- and go to file\new image from clipboard then save it and send it.

Are you working with a virgin install or could there be leftovers from some other scenery still floating around?

I am pretty sure it has nothing to do with the MR Gilberts pack. No reason that it should.

Does it actually look like a building- in other words does it have doors, windows etc.? Or is it just a big old green box?

 

[Fibber]

MR....

...thanks for the quick comeback, It is a dedicated theater install that I am using for the PTO. The building looks like a VERRRRRRRRRRY large hanger. About the size that a Big Buff would fit in! Don't know where it comes from as I never saw it before. Doesn't show in any of the other fields. Just these two. Weird!!
Tried the Print Screen and it is a no go on this old WinXP board. Will try something else, if I can remember it.

 

[Fibber]

MR..........

....here is a screenshot. Not the best angle but shows what it is. You can fit a BUFF in this thing!

 

[MaskRider]

Thanks Fibber,

Yep. Those are orphans leftover from some other scenery you have installed.

MR

PS: BTW are they static scenery objects (API Macro) or dynamic object- can they be damaged by gunfire?

The reason i ask is that I don't recall any hangars that large that were ever released as dynamic objects. However, Macros can be re-scaled to as big as you want.

Also it appears to be 3 or 4 hangars side by side.

Can they be targeted in MB?

 

[Fibber]

MR.......

..tried that. Can't be damaged by gunfire, in fact I can fly right through it. Ironic part is I have never seen this thing before this! Doesn't show up anywhere but on those two bases!

 

[MaskRider]

..tried that. Can't be damaged by gunfire, in fact I can fly right through it. Ironic part is I have never seen this thing before this! Doesn't show up anywhere but on those two bases!

When was the last time you went flying around Abemama or Abaiang? Bet its been a while and who knows what sorts of random missions and such have come and gone since then.

Can they be targeted in MB? That would indicate whether they are macros or dynamic objects.

The only other version I ever made of Abemama was an API Macro version. And it definitely did not contain those hangars- I just looked to make sure. Nada.

And this new version most definitely doesn't use them.

MR

PS You might also try deactivating the newly installed MR Gilbert scenery folders and then see if the hangars are still there.

 

[bearcat241]

OK, some feedback please...


With the Rhumba watermasks deactivated, i also eliminated the pac?????.bgl's to clean up the double coastlines at these new locations. Got perfect results wherever these new bases are concerned. However, all other locations that i frequent in FF, QC and missions are now without coastlines, as i anticipated of course.


My question is how do you guys reconcile this tradeoff? Do you have a solution that i'm unaware of or do you just live with it and try to ignore this effect at the affected locations?


Is there a way that i can have my cake and eat it too?

 

[kdriver]

Bearcat,

I hope you only eliminated the pac????p.BGLs - the pac????m.BGLs can stay. You need to reactivate the pac????p.BGLs when reverting to stock scenery. That's why I moved them to my Rhumba coastal flattens layer. I activate that layer along with the Rhumba's water files layer when I'm operating in the older scenery areas. I keep Rhumba's mesh active at all times.

Basically, when the water masks are activated, the coastal flattens and water files are deactivated and vice versa. I have all the water files for different parts of the world in the one folder. This means I'm only dealing with three layers in the scenery library. I get perfect renditions of all the PTO areas as long as I remember to activate/deactivate those three layers in accordance with the particular area. It's a bit of a nuisance, but you get used to it.

Kevin

 

[bearcat241]

Bearcat,

I hope you only eliminated the pac????p.BGLs - the pac????m.BGLs can stay.

I experimented with eliminating both sets in turn. Of course, in either case the rest of the PTO (older stuff) was crap.

You need to reactivate the pac????p.BGLs when reverting to stock scenery.... I get perfect renditions of all the PTO areas as long as I remember to activate/deactivate those three layers in accordance with the particular area. It's a bit of a nuisance, but you get used to it.

Ok...that sounds like the "reconciliation" answer i was fishing for. Although it does sound like a nuisance, it gives me some alternative. I suppose it doesn't get any better than that.

Thanks my friend...

 

[stuart277]

You neglected to either (a) deactivate your other Mask Rider Micronesia scenery folders or else (b) delete the specific scenery files listed here and in the readme.

Also you need to change the runway entries in you airbases.dat file to the new ones included in the scenery pack.

Tsk! Tsk! ;^)

MR

PS You might consider installing the Pacific Blues water texture pack at some point.

Hi MR
I changed the airbases to the new ones included in the scenery pack.
Deactivating MR Micronesia worked well
Initially I tried the delete the scenery BGL file but had a problem where the game was looking for them and would not load.
I tried it again today and did not get that message.
Thanks for help and your patience.
Cheers
Stuart

 

[MaskRider]

Thanks for help and your patience.
Cheers
Stuart

Actually, Stuart, I am the one who should be thanking everyone who downloads and installs my scenery for the time and patience.

Installing these scenery packs is nowhere near as easy as it used to be. What with all the misc. mesh, mask and flatten combinations floating around out there and the fact that these new scenery packs many times are replacing old ones, thus creating the need to uninstall the older stuff. It can really be a pain in the rear end! I am happy that as many people as do take the time and have the patience to tackle the job.

I'm not sure that I would.

BTW, I'll be releasing another pack in the next day or so- an expanded and reworked DEI pack. So stand by for more heavy rolls! ;^)

Cheers,
MR

 

[kdriver]

Stock Roads Rivers Beaches

Here's what's in those pac????p.BGLs

pac4b10p.bgl Marcus.bgl
pac4g10p.bgl Hawaii.bgl
pac4p10p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes West
pac4q00p.bgl Japan - Hokkaido
pac4r10p.bgl Truk, Marshall Is
pac4r20p.bgl Australia - QLD Central
pac5l50p.bgl Japan - Hachijo-Jima
pac5l60p.bgl Marianas
pac5l70p.bgl Palau
pac5m90p.bgl New Hebrides, New Caledonia
pac5n80p.bgl Nauru
pac5n90p.bgl New Hebrides, New Caledonia
pac6a71p.bgl Australia - Gulf of Carpentaria
pac6ah0p.bgl Japan - Hokkaido, Honshu North
pac6b11p.bgl Papua New Guinea, Admiralty Is
pac6b51p.bgl Australia - QLD - Cape York East
pac6b71p.bgl Australia - QLD - East
pac6bh0p.bgl Japan - Hokkaido
pac6c11p.bgl Papua New Guinea - New Britain, New Ireland
pac6c31p.bgl Papua New Guinea - Bougainville, D'Entrecasteaux Is
pac6d11p.bgl Solomons - Ontong Java
pac6d31p.bgl Solomons
pac7g24p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes East
pac7g64p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes Southeast
pac7ga3p.bgl Philippines - Luzon Central
pac7ge3p.bgl Philippines - Luzon South
pac7gi3p.bgl Philippines - Central
pac7gm3p.bgl Philippines - South
pac7h24p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Taliabu, Mangole
pac7h64p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Moluccas - Buru
pac7ha3p.bgl Philippines - East
pac7he3p.bgl Philippines - East
pac7hi3p.bgl Philippines - Mindanao North
pac7hm3p.bgl Philippines - Mindanao East
pac7i24p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Halmahera East
pac7i64p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Ceram
pac7ii4p.bgl Australia - NT - Darwin, Tiwi Is
pac7im4p.bgl Australia - Joseph Bonaparte Gulf
pac7j24p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - Vogel Kop
pac7j64p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - West
pac7ji4p.bgl Australia - NT - Arnhem Land Northwest
pac7jm4p.bgl Australia - NT - Arnhem Land Southwest
pac7k24p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - North
pac7k64p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - Central
pac7ka2p.bgl Japan - Honshu Central
pac7ka4p.bgl Dutch New Guinea -South
pac7ke2p.bgl Japan - Honshu - Nagoya
pac7ke4p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - South
pac7ki4p.bgl Australia - NT - Arnhem Land Northeast
pac7km4p.bgl Australia - NT - Groote Eylandt
pac7l24p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - Northeast
pac7l64p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - East
pac7la2p.bgl Japan - Honshu - Niigata, Sendai
pac7la4p.bgl Dutch New Guinea - East
pac7le2p.bgl Japan - Honshu - Tokyo
pac7le4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - South, Torres Strait
pac7li4p.bgl Australia - QLD - Cape York West
pac7lm4p.bgl Australia - QLD - Cape York Southwest
pac7ma4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - Central South
pac7me4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - South, Torres Strait
pac7na4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - Central, New Britain
pac7ne4p.bgl Papua New Guinea - South
pac68h0p.bgl China - Liaodong
pac68j0p.bgl China - Shandong, Korea West
pac68l0p.bgl China - Shanghai
pac68n0p.bgl China - East, Formosa
pac68p0p.bgl China - Formosa, Philippines - Luzon
pac68v0p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes North, Halmahera West
pac69h0p.bgl Korea - North, USSR - Vladivostok
pac69j0p.bgl Korea - South - Japan - Honshu West
pac69l0p.bgl Japan - Shikoku, Kyushu
pac69n0p.bgl Japan - Kyushu, Ryukyu
pac69t0p.bgl Japan - Okinawa
pac69v0p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Halmahera North
pac4010p.bgl Hawaii, Tern Is
pac4020p.bgl Fiji, Tonga, Samoa, Gilbert Is
pac4920p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Celebes West
pac6831p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Flores, Timor
pac6851p.bgl Australia - WA - Kimberley
pac6871p.bgl Australia - WA - Dampier Peninsular
pac6931p.bgl Dutch East Indies - Moluccas
pac6971p.bgl Australia - NT - Central