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MDLC again!
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Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
just remember that the newer ones are subpost to fix the light_state issue. I have all but the b75 as well if anyone needs them.
Gents,
It goes MDLC:-
Beta 75
Beta 85
117 - weapons building.
142
and the last is 190
190 is the best, as BH states, it is has had all the other tweaks such as glightstates removal etc.
BUT, sometimes 190 will not convert flap ani's correctly (usually doing one side but not the other), so using manual MDLC 190 through a command prompt, is the way to go. Although you think using the earlier versions you get a conversion you will not be getting rid of the glightstates check and other issues.
Although the best way is to convert with the one which works for you, then use a hex editor and edit out the crash and glightstates checks.
Cheers
Shessi
It goes MDLC:-
Beta 75
Beta 85
117 - weapons building.
142
and the last is 190
190 is the best, as BH states, it is has had all the other tweaks such as glightstates removal etc.
BUT, sometimes 190 will not convert flap ani's correctly (usually doing one side but not the other), so using manual MDLC 190 through a command prompt, is the way to go. Although you think using the earlier versions you get a conversion you will not be getting rid of the glightstates check and other issues.
Although the best way is to convert with the one which works for you, then use a hex editor and edit out the crash and glightstates checks.
Cheers
Shessi
misson
Charter Member
I still sayin that beta 117 is the best to get sucsess in hard conversions.
To delete the g_lights _states ( it causes the error SIM1SIM in missions and quick combat) use a exeditor , use the search tool and find this: 9d e9 f0 57 23 05 9c 4e bc b6 12 bb 2f e7 3f 06 (find them like hex string, no text) and replace them by zeros.
I have the best xeditor , recomended by SIMONU and it is freeware , and it could be in the library also.
Cheers
Mario
To delete the g_lights _states ( it causes the error SIM1SIM in missions and quick combat) use a exeditor , use the search tool and find this: 9d e9 f0 57 23 05 9c 4e bc b6 12 bb 2f e7 3f 06 (find them like hex string, no text) and replace them by zeros.
I have the best xeditor , recomended by SIMONU and it is freeware , and it could be in the library also.
Cheers
Mario
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Hi MS,
Yes there is. If you read any of Ivan's README's that comes with any version of MDLC, it explains the command switches for manual MDLC.
Basically (and remember this varies with differing OS's), to get a DOS command box up just go to START, and in the Run box type in cmd and then press enter. This brings up the DOS command box, now you can either type in the navigation to where you put your MDLC, or better still create a DOS command box short cut and put it with your MDLC.
You can put it with the same MDLC folders as the MK_MDLC MDLC. When you want to manual MDLC just click on the shortcut and a command box will come up and be ready without having to 'find' your way to where your MDLC is.
You then follow the switches as explained in Ivan's MDLC README. A couple of things, change the name of the mdl you're using to something simple like X or Z, and use no more than 8 letters if you're using a full name so for example, X.mdl or abcdefgh.mdl. Give it time to de-compile or compile.
Cheers
Shessi
Yes there is. If you read any of Ivan's README's that comes with any version of MDLC, it explains the command switches for manual MDLC.
Basically (and remember this varies with differing OS's), to get a DOS command box up just go to START, and in the Run box type in cmd and then press enter. This brings up the DOS command box, now you can either type in the navigation to where you put your MDLC, or better still create a DOS command box short cut and put it with your MDLC.
You can put it with the same MDLC folders as the MK_MDLC MDLC. When you want to manual MDLC just click on the shortcut and a command box will come up and be ready without having to 'find' your way to where your MDLC is.
You then follow the switches as explained in Ivan's MDLC README. A couple of things, change the name of the mdl you're using to something simple like X or Z, and use no more than 8 letters if you're using a full name so for example, X.mdl or abcdefgh.mdl. Give it time to de-compile or compile.
Cheers
Shessi
Guys,
What I’m curious about is “how to” convert some of the more complicated models from FS9 to CFS2. I can run the easy ones through MDLC. When the mdl file converts it is very easy.
But on models where the mdl file does not convert, such as Sky Unlimited’s P-38F, how do you work on the conversion. I know it can be done. I would like to learn myself. Where should I start?
Thanks for you input,
msfossey
What I’m curious about is “how to” convert some of the more complicated models from FS9 to CFS2. I can run the easy ones through MDLC. When the mdl file converts it is very easy.
But on models where the mdl file does not convert, such as Sky Unlimited’s P-38F, how do you work on the conversion. I know it can be done. I would like to learn myself. Where should I start?
Thanks for you input,
msfossey
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
Thats where the SCASM editing comes in. Thats something that I'm still working on as well. There are a few that just won't convert. Some of the WWI with the wire animations don't want to convert. even with SCASM editing.
misson
Charter Member
My friend msfossey, all models are convertible! The question really is, how far you want to go for that model to convert. I do not know practically nothing about the use of SCASM. But I understand some guidelines, is that nothing is easy. There is a lot of try and error.
But you have something to appreciate: it is that tingling inside, that motivates you to want to know and that is comforting and fun here. And it will cause problems with your wife.LOL
I recommend starting with the Magazine of Robert John, then install modelconvertX, install GMAX with their respective plugins and start experimenting. There are forums on design as http://www.fsdeveloper.com or here :http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...-amp-Animation.
You have the instinct to guide you through what you are looking for.
Go forward! starting slowly.
Use MDLC may be easy but will not work with all models. For these difficult models you could export the visual model with ConvertX program. And then reconstruct the animations with Gmax.Relocate textures, blablabla, To finally export to FS2004 and again use MDLC to convert to CFS2, but this would be your most difficult case. There easiest whichever is the difficulty. I think the use of SCASM might be easier to repair some animation but for large-scale work of many animations, resolution of parts etc, it may be more convenient to use gmax.
Hope this give u a idea of this bussines.
All these reasons are Why there is no a simple tutorial for conversions. I do not domain all this knowledge (i´m too far). But u have good people that can help u anywhere, just ask!
Cheers
Mario
But you have something to appreciate: it is that tingling inside, that motivates you to want to know and that is comforting and fun here. And it will cause problems with your wife.LOL
I recommend starting with the Magazine of Robert John, then install modelconvertX, install GMAX with their respective plugins and start experimenting. There are forums on design as http://www.fsdeveloper.com or here :http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...-amp-Animation.
You have the instinct to guide you through what you are looking for.
Go forward! starting slowly.
Use MDLC may be easy but will not work with all models. For these difficult models you could export the visual model with ConvertX program. And then reconstruct the animations with Gmax.Relocate textures, blablabla, To finally export to FS2004 and again use MDLC to convert to CFS2, but this would be your most difficult case. There easiest whichever is the difficulty. I think the use of SCASM might be easier to repair some animation but for large-scale work of many animations, resolution of parts etc, it may be more convenient to use gmax.
Hope this give u a idea of this bussines.
All these reasons are Why there is no a simple tutorial for conversions. I do not domain all this knowledge (i´m too far). But u have good people that can help u anywhere, just ask!
Cheers
Mario
MDLC 117 beta
Hi all
I have been having a lot of trouble with MK_MDLC v2.0, (MDLC 117beta) recently.
It quickly converts the GMax export to MD8 (FS2002) but it is 'hanging' when converting MD8 to MD2.
This morning I converted one model successfully, but a second model 'hung'.
Shessi has given some answers, such as using too much RAM, my RAM monitor show about 37% used with background programs etc.
I have reinstalled the FS2004 Gmax SDK and MK_MDLC v2.0, (MDLC 117beta) without success.
It could be the exporting process so I have put in a GMax export for anyone to test.
It is a minesweeper for Achim called 'x'.
Cheers
Stuart
View attachment x.zip
Hi all
I have been having a lot of trouble with MK_MDLC v2.0, (MDLC 117beta) recently.
It quickly converts the GMax export to MD8 (FS2002) but it is 'hanging' when converting MD8 to MD2.
This morning I converted one model successfully, but a second model 'hung'.
Shessi has given some answers, such as using too much RAM, my RAM monitor show about 37% used with background programs etc.
I have reinstalled the FS2004 Gmax SDK and MK_MDLC v2.0, (MDLC 117beta) without success.
It could be the exporting process so I have put in a GMax export for anyone to test.
It is a minesweeper for Achim called 'x'.
Cheers
Stuart
View attachment x.zip
Worked fine with MK_MDLC (beta85). MK_MDLC (beta85) is what I use all of the time. Attached the convert to CFS2 model.
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No Luck
Hi Allen
I had no luck with beta85 either, but I did get the message 'conversion failed' going from MD8 to MD2 rather than the 'hang' with beta117.
I will do a virus check tonight. I use XP. As I understand MDLC does not work with Win7.
I have attached a few ships that I would appreciate if anyone can convert them to MDL files, they are a few more minesweepers.
Cheers
Stuart
Hi Allen
I had no luck with beta85 either, but I did get the message 'conversion failed' going from MD8 to MD2 rather than the 'hang' with beta117.
I will do a virus check tonight. I use XP. As I understand MDLC does not work with Win7.
I have attached a few ships that I would appreciate if anyone can convert them to MDL files, they are a few more minesweepers.
Cheers
Stuart
I did your model the other day but today MDLC dosen't work. Any model that I know worked just hangs in the MK MDLC window. I see in the DOS window that it dose convert from FS2004 and a CONVERT.LOG and CONVER.MD8 are made but MK MDLC dosen't take them from the MK MDLC folder and put them into the folder that your converting from.
I tired a restat but got the same. I ended up re-downloading the whole Mk_Mdl_Ver 2.0+.zip http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=49&sort=d&page=3&pp=20 and got it to work. Attaching the converted modes.
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I tired a restat but got the same. I ended up re-downloading the whole Mk_Mdl_Ver 2.0+.zip http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?catid=49&sort=d&page=3&pp=20 and got it to work. Attaching the converted modes.
View attachment 22764
Thanks Allen
Hi Allen
Thanks for doing the conversions.
You seem to have found the problem I have.
I re-downloaded the Mk_Mdl_Ver 2.0+.zip again (this is the version I have been using), but it still hangs on the MD8 to MD2 conversions.
I am perplexed. Shessi says that the amount of RAM may have something to do with it.
Again, thanks for the conversions, at least I can do these models for achim.
Cheers
Stuart
Hi Allen
Thanks for doing the conversions.
You seem to have found the problem I have.
I re-downloaded the Mk_Mdl_Ver 2.0+.zip again (this is the version I have been using), but it still hangs on the MD8 to MD2 conversions.
I am perplexed. Shessi says that the amount of RAM may have something to do with it.
Again, thanks for the conversions, at least I can do these models for achim.
Cheers
Stuart