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Mesh\scenery compatability

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Fibber

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This subject Mesh\Scenery comes up alot, but I am starting to rebuild my Europe installation (finally!) and after following some discussions this thought has puzzled me.
I understand that Mesh is the frame work and scenery goes over it, but there are some problems with some misplacing lakes, airfields, etc.

I have downlaoded all the CII sceneries for Europe by McClelland and the Eurmeshes by J. Haut. I have also all of the files by SdC. Here are the questions.:kilroy:
(1) If I use just SdC do I need the Eurmeshes by J.H., or is it a redundancy ( and incompatable).
(2) Will Haut work best with SdC or McClelland 's.
(3) What will work together best, SdC, McClelland, Haut?
(4) What is the best combination of the three?


Inquiring minds want to know.:wave:
 
Mesh is only elevation and has nothing to do with the other BGLs. They must fit, rather than the mesh fitting them. Haut's mesh is pretty old, so I don't know his sources, but they are probably GTOPO30-based, so not very accurate. The best current meshes are from SRTM 3 arc second "Finished". Anything for FS2002 or CFS2 should work.

SDC files are terrain. That would be land/water masking as well as roads and beaches. These will drape over the mesh. In some cases Sander has provided flattens to alter the mesh in critical areas. These are translated from FS9, so they won't have any better accuracy.

Airfields should have their own flattens, and should have nothing to do with either mesh or terrain... but they should fit the mesh and terrain. If they don't, then they need to be altered to fit the mesh and terrain... you don't change accurate mesh or terrain for ill fitting airfields. I don't know if the McClelland airfields are well-fitted for FS9 scenery ( that is what SDC uses ). But I would guess they are not all well-fitted, as they were made for stock CFS2 mesh and terrain.

What is needed for CFS2 is a set of aaccurate LOD7 mesh from modern sources, and accurate Land/Water masking to fit them. LOD9 mesh can be made to fit specific areas of interest.

Currently some good mesh is from Jean Bomber and gary20

Dick
 
Thanks for the reply.
That is what I was trying to acertain before I bought on myself a lot more problems than I want. The LOD's is what always gets me when I try to read the Doc's. I believe I also have Gary20 somewhere and will look for Jean.

Thanks again.:ernae:
 
rhumbaflappy said:
What is needed for CFS2 is a set of aaccurate LOD7 mesh from modern sources, and accurate Land/Water masking to fit them. LOD9 mesh can be made to fit specific areas of interest.

Dick
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I think I may have found a starting point - I recently came across a set of mesh for Western Europe created by Yohann Baptiste. He has taken the SRTM V2 data and cleaned it up with Blackart before compiling the mesh (I think this is similar to the work done by Jean Bomber for Spain).

It is a 13 part set but the first part is what he calls "buffer mesh". It is a LOD 7 mesh covering most of western Europe (most of Scandanavia appears to be missing).

It looks pretty good, at least with my limited knowledge, and may be worth checking out.
It can be found at Avsim, just search for Yohann Baptiste.

Here are a few shots comparing ms default, Josiah Haut, and the LOD 7 mesh. The base is Interlaken.

Gavin
 
Thanks Gavinc for yours research ,the tmfview show clearly they are good quality load7 mesh and ,most important, they are not odd gaps ,that my spain lod9 mesh have at the bgl boundaries :banghead:.....the update exist but too heavy in three parts.....
They are a good choice to cover the western Europe,the world and so scandinavia is not covered up to N60 by strm .Have you the link ?
"accurate Land/Water masking to fit them" is that I'm working for some place .....:typing:
Here an old started project in stock ,pics for Corsica with lod9 mesh ,not yet flattened .


JP :rapture:
 
LOD 7 Link

http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004scen&DLID=75280

Yohann also has LOD 9 mesh for western Europe, Greece, Turkey, Iran and the Caucusas available on AVSIM. If you search for "Yohann Baptiste" you will see lots of his files (he does a lot of FS2004 AI stuff as well). Most of the mesh dated 2005 has been cleaned up by him using Blackart, the earlier stuff probably hasn't - check within the readme before you download.

Gavin
 
Fibber said:
Hi guys;
The little pest is back!:wavey: Have either of you fellows (Rhumbaflappy,Gavinc, or J.B.) looked at the files available here?
http://www.incantisuweb.com/scenery2k/fscen.asp
In one section it relates to something called the FS2002 Gaia Mesh system. Is it possible to shed some light as to what that is?

Just wondering.
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Hi Fibber
I have never tried it myself, but if you go over to AVSIM (probably FlightSim) as well) you can search for "GAIA" and download several demo areas, then you can check it out yourself.

Gavin
 
Thanks Gavinc

thanks for the link

I think this mesh are mainly in lod9 , lod7 seem to be for the places not covered by strm, the area upper N60 .
I think it's the best choice today for western Europe

JP
 
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