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Messerschmitt 108 Taifun released!
- Thread starter Mathias
- Start date
Joo! Lots of nice repaints allready out.
Almost fatal crash in a crosswind landing. Too much flaps and wrong control input.
Finally came around to getting the REX/ASE/UTX combo back up and running and added GEX and scenery tech landclass europe to the mix.
Sure makes a difference.
Almost fatal crash in a crosswind landing. Too much flaps and wrong control input.
Finally came around to getting the REX/ASE/UTX combo back up and running and added GEX and scenery tech landclass europe to the mix.
Sure makes a difference.
Yep, this bird with REX, ASE, Orbx Sceneries is just plane awesome:salute: Crosswind landings are a fun challenge for sure. Those big flaps and slats actually add to the challenge in a very fun way by causing the plane to really weathervane if approach too slow. I tried to land at Bear Gulch with a 20kt crosswind and it was almost impossible, even with crosswind techniques...less flaps, higher approach speed, touchdown on windward main gear, rudder for runway alignment....definately scraped the wings a few times LOL I think the 172 and similar light GA planes have a max demonstrated crosswind component of around 15-20kts. Minde you those crosswind component numbers were established by highly experienced company test pilots. If the BF-108 is a challenge in a stiff crosswind, just think how hard a BF-109 would be 
Anyway, this plane is a winner and going to be a top choice in my hangar for a long long time.
Cheers
TJ
Anyway, this plane is a winner and going to be a top choice in my hangar for a long long time.
Cheers
TJ
Ferry_vO
Retired SOH Administrator
Huub, do you have any photos of the Taifun PH-PBC which was one of many private aircraft owned by our Prince Bernhard? I ony have one that only shows the cockpit section so I'm not even sure if it's a Messerschmitt or a Nord but a repaint would be interesting!
This is the only one I have been able to find.
I don't know anything about the colour(s), but it seems to be a genuine Bf108.
Cheers,
Huub
Well this is the information from the Dutch registration data base....
PH-PBC Messerschmitt Bf 108B Taifun 730253
Gebouwd door Nord Aviation, Frankrijk.
130 PH-PBC/2, R2101, Luftwaffe
01.10.1949 ZKH Prins Bernard der Nederlanden, Soestdijk.
14.04.1955 Schreiner & Co NV, Den Haag.
15.10.1956 Inschrijving doorgehaald.
D-EHAF, D-EBFW
In 1958 werd dit toestel, beschilderd als een Bf 109 gebruikt bij de opnamen van de film “Operatie Amsterdam”.
So obviously the plane went to Germany in 1956.
A search on the Werk.Nr (Construction number) in the "preserved Luftwaffe aircraft database" learns that the aircraft currently has the registration D-EHAF and is privately owned by somebody from Schwabmünchen in Bavaria Germany. The aircraft was originally built as D-1 in France in 1944.After the war overhauled as Nord 1000 with W.Nr. 43. The information however is quite confusing and contradicting as the aircraft number is also brought in relation with the Bf108 D-EBFW from the Messerschmitt stifting which originally had Construction number 1561..... To make it even more confusing this aircraft has the registration D-IBFW on the wings and fuselage!
Don't you just love the internet! I have found a lot, but still don't know anything :d
Cheers,
Huub
PH-PBC Messerschmitt Bf 108B Taifun 730253
Gebouwd door Nord Aviation, Frankrijk.
130 PH-PBC/2, R2101, Luftwaffe
01.10.1949 ZKH Prins Bernard der Nederlanden, Soestdijk.
14.04.1955 Schreiner & Co NV, Den Haag.
15.10.1956 Inschrijving doorgehaald.
D-EHAF, D-EBFW
In 1958 werd dit toestel, beschilderd als een Bf 109 gebruikt bij de opnamen van de film “Operatie Amsterdam”.
So obviously the plane went to Germany in 1956.
A search on the Werk.Nr (Construction number) in the "preserved Luftwaffe aircraft database" learns that the aircraft currently has the registration D-EHAF and is privately owned by somebody from Schwabmünchen in Bavaria Germany. The aircraft was originally built as D-1 in France in 1944.After the war overhauled as Nord 1000 with W.Nr. 43. The information however is quite confusing and contradicting as the aircraft number is also brought in relation with the Bf108 D-EBFW from the Messerschmitt stifting which originally had Construction number 1561..... To make it even more confusing this aircraft has the registration D-IBFW on the wings and fuselage!
Don't you just love the internet! I have found a lot, but still don't know anything :d
Cheers,
Huub
olderndirt
Charter Member
I love it, but. The roll axis has no stable center. I've backed off four clicks on realism settings, enough to keep a 172 straight and level forever but, unless I'm inputting constant corrections, away it goes. Manipulating the propeller pitch crank, inflight, becomes an exercise is recovering from unusual attitudes. One attempt at entering cloud with just needle ball got me out the bottom with a windshield full of topography and an airspeed beyond Willi's wildest hopes.
Barfly, it's at flightsim.com
Are you running some sensitive joystick profiles, oldendirt?
Default settings should do well with this one.
You won't be disappointed Bill, this thing is awesome!
Here you can get an idea of it's short field capabilities
That's an interesting shot!
With the slats giving 8° post stall before a wing begins to drop you can actually touch down with the tail wheel first. Looks pretty much as if you did exactly that!
olderndirt
Charter Member
Mathias - My stick is the X52 and, other than button assignments, it's as it came out of the box. In game I had my realism settings at about 85%, for general, torque and p-factor, but reduced each four clicks and that relaxed things a bit. Without constant hands on it tends to roll either direction and fairly quickly - the rudder stays centered between your feet. Since it willingly goes either direction, trim isn't a factor - it's more of a stability thing. Not uncontrollable by any means but if your attention is diverted, as with that fascinating prop pitch crank, things tend to get out of hand.
That is actually a departure shot from Bill Womack's fantastic Bear Gulch/Cushman's Meadows scenery for PNW. It is a narrow bumpy dirt 1410'/429m runway with a bridge over a creek in the middle. The BF-108 was off the ground in roughly 1/3rd of the runway length
That was a pre-patched plane too, so staying on that narrow bridge was tricky with the pre patched sensitive rudder now it is nice and smooth with the patches. 
As far as the rolling stability, I have found in turbulence I have to have a hand on the stick at all times, But it doesn't seem much different than most fighters. For me it is more stable in level flight than the A2A Spitifre for instance.
With the prop crank, I set the red marker on it full on takeoff, then to '3 oclock' on climbout at about 90kts, then about 1030 on levelout, then slowly increase to 12 as the airspeed increases and aircraft is levelled out. Upon throttle reduction for the approach I put the prop back to 3 olock and this all seems to work fine, havent had any prop failures yet
Hope it works out for you Dirt
Cheers
TJ
No roll instability here either. Don't know about the Bf 108 but e.g. the Milviz 310 gets more difficult to fly the more you reduce the realism settings!!!
With high quality flight dynamics realism always needs to be set at 100% except the readme specifically states something different.
What's your joystick deadzone in the roll and yaw axis? Try 10% or even 20% for these two just for troubleshooting
With high quality flight dynamics realism always needs to be set at 100% except the readme specifically states something different.
What's your joystick deadzone in the roll and yaw axis? Try 10% or even 20% for these two just for troubleshooting
olderndirt
Charter Member
Bernt - Still having a functioning memory must be wonderful. As soon as I saw the word "null", I went in there and ran the realism settings back to the right then set my null settings to an estimated 20% and all three axes to 100%. Another thing I'd overlooked is my EZDOK has the lumpy bumpy stuff active so that wasn't helping. Suffice to say - all's well that ends well.