Might wanna be sitting down for this one...

So what is left of Aces?

Hal, Z,Singer and Paul?

All that talent just thrown away?

After Windows, FS has to be one of their all time best selling software.

This is EXACTLY why I am staying in the consulting business.... join a company full-time and start to believe... and then some bean counter destroys all the people and the purpose that was created.
 
Phil, sorry to read and hear something like this and it saddens our community that MS has decided to go in this direction.
 
let's not forget the people working for microsoft aren't the only ones losing jobs, there are thousands being laid off in north american car manufacturers and there might be a "recession"
 
It's happening all over. I'm a residential architectural designer. Believe me, we have been decimated this past 6 months.

Thank God we are still alive an kicking, but it sure does not look good right now. Only the 'highest end' projects are currently keeping us afloat....for how long?
 
of course if the bosses of the big firms and such took pay cuts as well, heck could cull some of them off instead of the workers :kilroy:
 
bkeske said:
It's happening all over. I'm a residential architectural designer. Believe me, we have been decimated this past 6 months.

Thank God we are still alive an kicking, but it sure does not look good right now. Only the 'highest end' projects are currently keeping us afloat....for how long?
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Times are indeed tough Brian. Here's hoping your industry stays as healthy as possible.:focus:
 
PhilTaylor said:
yes, I have contacts.

it's a sad day, that is all I can say at this point.
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Sorry about your friends at ACES, Phil.

This IS a sad day, but talent is talent and there are viable flight sim development companies working now and others just waiting to be born.

the times are the times - but renewal is an ongoing process - this is just part of the process.

I hope this sad day will soon be looked back on as a golden opportunity and the day some NEW dreams were born
 
I heard how Canada's government is giving GM a loan so they won't have to lay off some more jobs. And thank God that Bombardier isn't being affected with this whole "loonie crash" thing.
 
N400QW said:
Times are indeed tough Brian. Here's hoping your industry stays as healthy as possible.:focus:
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Me too Ron. There are some upcoming aircraft I want to be able to be able to afford....hint....hint....:jump:

Thanks for the kind words.
 
Ugh... dejected is the word.

I haven't felt this bad about a simming company disappearing since Microprose.
 
It is a sad occurrence, for the people involved. But it could also be an opportunity. I could see a group of Aces individuals coming together to form their own flight sim development company -- the future of the (former) MS Flight Sim franchise.

I have a brother-in-law who was squeezed out of an engineering firm making high tech equipment (mngmnt was running the place into the ground). He and about 4 others started their own company, doing essentially the same thing as the company they left. That was 12 successful years ago. He's now the president of the new company and they're doing just fine.
 
Good Bye ACES - you made an outstanding Flight Simulator Series - providing endless amusement and entertainment and employment for many people, for many years.

That is No Small Achievement! :ernae: Thank You All
 
I sure never saw this coming. The flow from this through the companies that make things for FS could be devastating. The design team at MS may be just the tip of the iceberg. People who make hardware and software addons for FS have to be very worried that their market will simply vanish. X Plane might be the only one to profit from this decision.
 
Wow, I really feel for the employees, but can't help but be angry, especially if the decision came from the bean counters. That would probably mean that the console design studios within MS are still going strong, at least for now. if true, yet another reason to NOT support consoles for me.

Man, I was really looking forward to FS11, if for nothing else to hopefully bring the community more together seeing how divided it is f between FS9 and FSX.

Hmm, I've always been a supporter of MS, might to rethink that now. I find it interesting that MS has to make severe cuts to stay afloat and a retailer, such as JCPenny is in the black with 2 bill on the books.

Wonder if Obama can give ACES a bailout, they/we need it more than the Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.
 
last note here from me as I'm eating bandwidth like candy here...jeez this sux

I hope the 3rd party development on FSX will continue as I look forward to flying FSX for many years to come and promise to spend $$ to the extend that I can on new terrain, scenery, aircraft etc..

and further - I would hope that some of the 3rd party groups would get in contact with any ACES people that might be available for hire directly or for consultation - to help with ongoing FSX related projects..or in Razbams case future 'from the ground up' flight simulations...EULA's and NDA's notwithstanding ofcourse

dammit - and to think - it was just a few weeks ago that the biggest problem we'd ever had around here was a smelly smilie

Ickie buddy - if only that could have been the end of it
 
kjb said:
I sure never saw this coming. The flow from this through the companies that make things for FS could be devastating. The design team at MS may be just the tip of the iceberg. People who make hardware and software addons for FS have to be very worried that their market will simply vanish. X Plane might be the only one to profit from this decision.
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I doubt this will be the end of the MSFS series, by far...give the Strike FIgthers comunity a look, they are with a 8 yrs old sim platform, which JUST got a new version(vista able) and it´s very limited(scenery wise) but going stronger than ever (and actually making it a very good combat sim)
The FSX engine is very powerful, as far as i can see, we are just scratching it´s whole capabilities, besides, i read nowhere that they are killing the franchise...
Let´s just NOT PANIC..
Prowler
 
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