MilViz F-15E or IRIS F-15?

[stovall]

Dougal95, I like to think of SOH, the developer of payware and freeware all as partners. We work together to solve problems and offer help to each other. Glad you got things sorted out. Best not to fly an F-15E when you are tired. You never know what might happen.

 

[Kiwikat]

The first dev to make a "C" will get my money.

In the meantime if I want to fly fast I'll just keep using the VRS F-18. It is still the best military jet simulation for MSFS. :mixedsmi:

 

[Naruto-kun]

The first dev to make a "C" will get my money.

In the meantime if I want to fly fast I'll just keep using the VRS F-18. It is still the best military jet simulation for MSFS. :mixedsmi:

Yeh yeh the charlie will pick up soon mate.... Unfortunately due to events with the E I have been ordered to keep details of development progress underground on the pain of being severely chewed out....

 

[MenendezDiego]

An update for anyone still on the bench regarding the Milviz F-15E...just finished speaking with my instructor (former F-15A/B/C/D/E pilot), and he was really impressed with the F-15E avionics/weapons system.

This guy ended his USAF career as a Lt. Col. flying F-15E's out of Robins, doing test and eval of refurbished F-15E's...he knows his stuff, and it shows the quality of our product that he didn't mention one thing wrong that we did.

Regards, Diego

 

[n4gix]

EDIT: No, of course I can't. F1 installer want's me to pay again. Okay, will get refund and start again!

Dougal, I know that you know this by now, but just for the record and the possible benefit of others:

There is never a need to "get a refund and repurchase" when using the 'Flight1' system!

1. You download the installer package from the Milviz dedicated server.
2. You run the installer .exe and make the initial purchase via the 'Flight1' system.
3. From now on, if you download an updated version from the Milviz dedicated server, you need only use the "Reinstall" option from the 'Flight1' installer menu using your existing key file for validation purposes.

Note that the 'Flight1' system is mostly "Self-Service" meaning that you can easily and quickly get a replacement key should you manage to somehow loose yours, change your account to a "keyless system" if you prefer, and a host of other options. If you need personalized service, then the "Support Ticket" system is there to be used as well.

 

[neutrino]

I like the IRIS F-15 HUD

 

[Naruto-kun]

Yeah that is one of the things they did do better.

 

[TAFKAM]

I think your observations are incorrect, the 1 on the left is the real thing the 1 on the right is IRIS....

And on the external models the IRIS bird looks correct from ANY angle, while the MILVIZ is off and only looks good on a few angles AND the IRIS bird has better FPS and more functionalities in the front AND the Back seat...

 

[MenendezDiego]

Hey TAFKAM,

Nice observations. I own the Iris bird, and was wondering if it can do aerial refueling. I was flying the Mach Loop with it last night, and before I knew it, I was on my 4th lap and running low on gas. I realize I could have gone RTB, but meh...a tanker is more challenging. Also, what functionality does the air-to-air and air-to-ground radar have? I haven't had the time to dig through the manual yet, what with a full time school/work schedule, and working on the SP for the Milviz bird. You know how busy we can get at times. But yea, can you point me to some information on how to use the radars in the Iris bird? Also, which modes are implemented in the air-to-air radar? I'm also having a hard time finding the different air-to-ground modes. It seems all I am able to do is CDIP. Who would want to drop a GBU-12 without guidance, am I right? By the way, love the gun sound. It's spot on! In short, I really need help with the systems, as I can't seem to actually shoot anything down/designate any ground targets, yet there are weapons which can be fired...I'm confused.

Oh I almost forgot, which functionalities does the Iris bird have in the back seat which the Milviz bird doesn't. I'm only asking because...well honestly...I never spent any time in the back seat! lol

All the best, Diego!

 

[TAFKAM]

Well, to talk more about observations....you can put weapons on a toilet, but its still a toilet right?!..

 

[MenendezDiego]

TAFKAM,

What harsh words! I was simply asking for your assistance seeing as you are one of the leading Iris F-15E experts. I am sorry if I upset you.

Your words are very disrespectful, many people have put a lot of blood, sweat, and tears into the Milviz F-15E. To hear you say that, well, it makes me lose faith in this hobby.

Moderators, I believe TAFKAM was warned about his insulting ways? I believe he should be banned.

Regards, Diego

Edit: I understand asking for TAFKAM to be banned is a bit much, but he was openly (and I assume privately) warned.

 

[TAFKAM]

Hey..... dont try to turn this around or accussing me of insulting, i didnt mention anything about MILVIZ i was just making a general observation......by the way its FSX not CFS...

 

[MenendezDiego]

I am not turning anything, you insulted myself and the Milviz team.

I understand FSX is not CFS, though there are many people who enjoy being able to deploy a great number of systems in their addon aircraft, including weapons.

I remember a certain company mentioning they are going to implement TacPack, perhaps you should make them aware that 'FSX is not CFS'.

I commend VRS for what they are doing for the simulator.

Diego

 

[TAFKAM]

Diego if you are trying to get personal, wich you are so you can get me banned in a sort of way.....i never insulted MILVIZ these are your words and if if you feel insulted well im sorry........

Isnt this the threat for the costumers to deside instead of the developers?......i dont see IRIS coming in and say anything...

Regards.....

 

[MenendezDiego]

I am not an employee of Milviz, I am simply a freelance tester.

And you did insult myself and the Milviz staff for the hard work that was put into the aircraft: "you can put weapons on a toilet, but its still a toilet right?!.."

Or was that directed at Iris?

Diego

 

[stovall]

TAFKAM, your comments are insulting and provocative. The reference to the toilet is to much for me. I am referring this to the senior administrator for action.

Guys lets take this back to the positive side of comparison.

 

[RKinkor]

I agree cause I myself am trying to decide as well and with the negative sniping going on I'm just about to the point of not buying either one.

Congratulatations to both TAFKAM and Diego you guys just saved me 40 some odd dollars. Do to your attitudes I am going to buy neither of them...seriously. I apologize if this offends people other than who it is intended for.

 

[MenendezDiego]

Congratulatations to both TAFKAM and Diego you guys just saved me 40 some odd dollars. Do to your attitudes I am going to buy neither of them...seriously. I apologize if this offends people other than who it is intended for.

Sorry you feel that way, but when someone makes incorrect comments about 'systems', well I cannot let that stand. We have worked too hard and too long to have someone make incorrect statements about our aircraft.

If you want to get deep into systems, go for the Milviz bird. If you're looking for an excellent cockpit/exterior environment with some nice bonuses (nozzle noise, excellent gun sound, very nice HUD) go for the Iris bird. As I have said, I own both, and love them equally.

Regards, Diego

 

[svicar]

Enough of the childishness already....

As for myself, I picked up the Milviz model. I have purchased a couple of Iris aircraft in the past and, generally speaking have been very pleased with my purchases. The reason I went with the Milviz offering in this particular case was I was looking for a package that looked great and had a fair amount of depth with regards to systems.

One point I want to make perfectly clear right from the start: I am not an advocat/employee/"fanboy" of either company.

The last aircraft I purchased from Iris was their F22 Raptor and although I was pretty satisfied, I was somewhat disappointed with the lack of system depth and was annoyed by the message "Sorvius and Spanky woz ere '11" on the UFC when the DVR button was selected. I thought their A-10 was a work of art but again, it seemed to me to lack any depth, system wise.

So how is the Milviz package you may ask? I've found it to be closer to the VRS Superbug in terms of system detail than most other payware birds I have purchased, (and I have a small fortunes worth of payware military aircraft). The manual is over 500 pages, the ground and air radars are fully functional, the weapons deploy, and the ai tanker is a welcome addition. It's also great to see ground blasts and ai aircraft damage included. Although challenging to operate, it is very satisfying when you get the hang of it. They have also released a free scenery pack which includes several airbases, ai traffic and missions. All this at a price somewhat less than the Iris package.

The only drawback is that there are a number of issues which need to be fixed, and Milviz is close to releasing a sevice patch adressing these, but it has been my experience almost all payware releases have post initial release issues. As far as I've read, the Iris package has post release issues they are dealing with as well.

I'm sure the Iris bird is a great offering and will no doubt provide many hours of enjoyment for those who purchase it. As for myself, I had some specific criteria and because of their reputation for authentic systems function as well as quality modeling and textureing, I chose the Milviz package.


With regard to all those who feel compelled to engage in a juvenile "my toy is better than your toy" diatribe, go away and come back when you've grown up. Both models are exceptional and all FSX military enthusiasts are well served by both choices.

 

[b52bob]

Enough of the childishness already....



With regard to all those who feel compelled to engage in a juvenile "my toy is better than your toy" diatribe, go away and come back when you've grown up. Both models are exceptional and all FSX military enthusiasts are well served by both choices.

+1

Bob