MilViz F-86F Sabre Repaints

[DaveQ]

Dave...I've actually been hoping that someone would take the paintkit and redo all the baremetal similiar to that of the WBS Mustangs. I've been trying to find some good reference material to attempt it myself....but I know it will also take working on the alpha channel too.

There is no alpha; the model is non-reflective, which I guess is the reason that Gunnar has chosen the shadow route. What you see is the best I can do except for toning up or down the amount of random shading. I can't increase the specular shine too much either without the texture bleeds out altogether. The stencil font and some stencil positions have been changed as well - a matter of individual aircraft and taste, not a criticism at all.

DaveQ

Edit - I've spent 3 hours with MDLMatXX attempting to put reflection in to no avail. There again I'm not an expert!!

 

[skyhawka4m]

hmmmmm.........interesting

 

[Skyhawk18]

There is no alpha; the model is non-reflective, which I guess is the reason that Gunnar has chosen the shadow route. What you see is the best I can do except for toning up or down the amount of random shading. I can't increase the specular shine too much either without the texture bleeds out altogether. The stencil font and some stencil positions have been changed as well - a matter of individual aircraft and taste, not a criticism at all.

DaveQ

We will have to do something to the specular files and their alpha channels.
The textures looks great. If you send the livery to me, I'll see if I can get more (at least a little bit more) surface reflection to it.

 

[DagR]

Please enable alpha in the diffuse textures Gunnar. I will buy it then ;-)


Best
DagR

 

[fleurdelys]

We will have to do something to the specular files and their alpha channels.
The textures looks great. If you send the livery to me, I'll see if I can get more (at least a little bit more) surface reflection to it.

There was a comment on another post about why some texture repaints contained their own specular files and others not...

I guess the amount of reflectivity has to be worked on each texture and to the taste of the repainter himself.

If you look at the WIP of the base textures for Luftwaffe camouflaged liveries that I'm presently working on, I temporarily used the specular shines of my last posting (TAIWAN_1960) which represented the planes of a Gunnery meet between various air forces; I felt that it would have been shinier than usual as you wouldn't go to a party with your dirty jeans...
As such, they are too shiny for a good camo texture but could probably give some shine on your model which has a bit of a sandblasted look presently (no offense meant).

Why not try them and see how it comes out and you can work it down from there ...

Good luck with your tweaking...

Fleurdelys

 

[DaveQ]

There was a comment on another post about why some texture repaints contained their own specular files and others not...

I guess the amount of reflectivity has to be worked on each texture and to the taste of the repainter himself.

If you look at the WIP of the base textures for Luftwaffe camouflaged liveries that I'm presently working on, I temporarily used the specular shines of my last posting (TAIWAN_1960) which represented the planes of a Gunnery meet between various air forces; I felt that it would have been shinier than usual as you wouldn't go to a party with your dirty jeans...
As such, they are too shiny for a good camo texture but could probably give some shine on your model which has a bit of a sandblasted look presently (no offense meant).

Why not try them and see how it comes out and you can work it down from there ...

Good luck with your tweaking...

Fleurdelys

Most of the tweaking is with the specular files. In those 'photos' it's turned right down to bring out the differences in the panel shine to try to emulate reflectivity. I agree the shading is perhaps a tad overdone in places though, especially the tanks.

Thanks for your comments btw!

DaveQ

 

[jankees]

work in progress...

 

[stovall]

Ohhhh! simply beautiful. Glad the Colorado ANG went to such great colors. Great work Jan.

Here is one I am working on. I know it is of a F-86A but Margie has always been a favorite of mine.

 

[skyhawka4m]

work in progress...

AWESOME!!!!

 

[CHBTheDoctor]

Thanks Zsolt, found it on FlightSim.com

:mixedsmi:

Download: http://speedy.sh/7pspP/GAFcamou.zip

 

[JensOle]

I’m a bit late to the Milviz Sabre party, but I have finally arrived.. lol

My favorite F-86F Sabre scheme is without doubt the colorful livery used by 336 Sqn of the Royal Norwegian Air Force. The squadron flew the Foxtrot between 1957 and 1966, the later years were hampered by flying restrictions because of the fuselage/wing cracking problems.

I have settled on “PX-U” 53-1086, which was a former USAF aircraft which arrived in Norway in 1957. After a few years with 332 sqn it flew with 336 from 1961 and until the type was retired five years later. It arrived with the 6-3 wing, but it was soon reworked with the big slotted wing of the Block 40 for improved maneuverability. Martin Baker seat followed in 1960.

A lot of research has gone into getting the RNoAF Sabre specific decals right(stencils, warning decals, roundels etc), but it is always room for improvements.

Not sure if Dag Roger S. remember that he sent me his RNoAF F-86 serial number font for many years ago… thanks Dag!

Gunnar has also been most helpful with helping out with the stencils.

 

[Mach3DS]

Ohhhh! simply beautiful. Glad the Colorado ANG went to such great colors. Great work Jan.

Here is one I am working on. I know it is of a F-86A but Margie has always been a favorite of mine.

I'd like to see James Jabara's bird, like this, with I think a white air inlet. Nice job. Still Looking for someone to do an early Fj2 or Fj3 Fury!

 

[stovall]

Thanks 000Rick000, I will check out Captain James Jabara's F-86 aircraft. In the meantime, here is Punkin-Head flown by Captain Morris Pitts, 336th FS, Kimpo AB, December 1950.

 

[snow_white]

I’m a bit late to the Milviz Sabre party, but I have finally arrived.. lol

My favorite F-86F Sabre scheme is without doubt the colorful livery used by 336 Sqn of the Royal Norwegian Air Force. The squadron flew the Foxtrot between 1957 and 1966, the later years were hampered by flying restrictions because of the fuselage/wing cracking problems.

I have settled on “PX-U” 53-1086, which was a former USAF aircraft which arrived in Norway in 1957. After a few years with 332 sqn it flew with 336 from 1961 and until the type was retired five years later. It arrived with the 6-3 wing, but it was soon reworked with the big slotted wing of the Block 40 for improved maneuverability. Martin Baker seat followed in 1960.

A lot of research has gone into getting the RNoAF Sabre specific decals right(stencils, warning decals, roundels etc), but it is always room for improvements.

Not sure if Dag Roger S. remember that he sent me his RNoAF F-86 serial number font for many years ago… thanks Dag!

Gunnar has also been most helpful with helping out with the stencils.

and we can get this where?

 

[snow_white]

Ohhhh! simply beautiful. Glad the Colorado ANG went to such great colors. Great work Jan.

Here is one I am working on. I know it is of a F-86A but Margie has always been a favorite of mine.

Have you finished/uploaded this one

 

[dvj]

I see all these wonderful repaints, and most are not yet downloadable. I think the rule for this thread should be that you don't post a repaint until you can post a download link to it. Otherwise they are just pretty pictures. :isadizzy:

 

[stovall]

Yes until the paints are uploaded they are just pretty pictures. Many of us post these pictures to give folks a preview of what is on the horizon. As for myself, I post the pictures also to get input in case someone sees an inconsistency or inaccuracy that can be corrected. I plan to put both Margie and Punkin-Head on the Add-Ons Library in the next 24 hours.

000rick000, I found the aircraft in your picture. This is tail number 8257. He also flew tail number 81259. Not sure why the 1 is left off number 257. I will start Jabara's F-86A number 8257 as soon as the Margie and Punkin-Head are uploaded.
Thanks for the interest.

Here is what I have so far on Captain James Jabara.

 

[bully707]

Awesome, awesome, awesome...that is all I can say! :salute:
Wow...great work by all involved!

Those norwegian birds look fantastic...!

 

[jankees]

Another one that is still on the horizon, and as such, is only a pretty picture, but I'm nearly there.
Progress: I finbally figured out what was on the scroll below the cockpit, and found the exact lay-out of the red paint on the underside (turns out there were differences between the aircraft):

soon, I promise, there's still a few bits and pieces I need to find first..

 

[roger-wilco-66]

Yes until the paints are uploaded they are just pretty pictures. Many of us post these pictures to give folks a preview of what is on the horizon. As for myself, I post the pictures also to get input in case someone sees an inconsistency or inaccuracy that can be corrected. I plan to put both Margie and Punkin-Head on the Add-Ons Library in the next 24 hours.

000rick000, I found the aircraft in your picture. This is tail number 8257. He also flew tail number 81259. Not sure why the 1 is left off number 257. I will start Jabara's F-86A number 8257 as soon as the Margie and Punkin-Head are uploaded.
Thanks for the interest.

Here is what I have so far on Captain James Jabara.[...]

I love that repaint, beautiful work, Tom.

Cheers,
Mark