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Milviz F4 yes or no?
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747jet
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So after 3 hours of testing the F4, it looks like am too stupid for this thing. I have other military jets for example the Aerosoft F16 and for me the flight behavior of the F4 is much too light. It handles like an aerobatic aircraft.
I made a video to show the problem I have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9gx68qC0Ho (I flew about M 0,5 and 6000 feet)
Am I doing something wrong?
I tried and tried it with the settings in the config manager but it looks like they do not change anything (honestly I do not know what the settings mean 100% :/ ) I do not play with a joystick (which would be the best I know), I use a Logitech game pad. All my mili jets handle ok but the phantom is the only one which handles like a (I don´t know). On my flight just at the moment I was at about FL450 with a speed of M 1.2. Suddenly the plane stalled and spinned around like crazy.
Would be happy if someone can help me.
I made a video to show the problem I have:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9gx68qC0Ho (I flew about M 0,5 and 6000 feet)
Am I doing something wrong?
I tried and tried it with the settings in the config manager but it looks like they do not change anything (honestly I do not know what the settings mean 100% :/ ) I do not play with a joystick (which would be the best I know), I use a Logitech game pad. All my mili jets handle ok but the phantom is the only one which handles like a (I don´t know). On my flight just at the moment I was at about FL450 with a speed of M 1.2. Suddenly the plane stalled and spinned around like crazy.
Would be happy if someone can help me.
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747jet
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Is it possible to give the Autopilot a VS mode? Although it is not real, it would help me a lot. I made a test and completely changed the autopilot section in the aircraft.cfg. Anyway this did not change anything and the AP handling was the same.
Can someone tell me the trick? I also looked in the Air file, but I could not find any point called autopilot there.
When I bought this plane it was not my intention to test around by myself lol.
Can someone tell me the trick? I also looked in the Air file, but I could not find any point called autopilot there.
When I bought this plane it was not my intention to test around by myself lol.
Victory103
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Mark, the Phantom is not done yet. Your vid is not how she flies in my sim with a TM Warthog joystick, if I did that she would depart controlled flight every time. As mentioned, RW former Rhino drivers and several beta testers are working to get this thing as close to the Dash 1 (flight manual) within the sim's limitations. I can only recommend if you are looking to get the most out of FSX military aircraft (really all aircraft), even a cheap joystick will vastly improve your enjoyment. Most fighter type autopilots, if they have one, are very basic and do not feature any form of vertical modes, mostly attitude hold. I know the coder is working his butt off to get the realism in every F-4 system, to include some nuances like INS/gyro drift.
Hi,
The F-4E is finished and released. The next update will be some minor and mostly invisible fixes and updates.
After that, for the E, it will be Tacpack.
We expect and hope to be releasing the F-4J/S in a short while. Short is defined, for us, as when it's ready.
Thank you.
Kat.
The F-4E is finished and released. The next update will be some minor and mostly invisible fixes and updates.
After that, for the E, it will be Tacpack.
We expect and hope to be releasing the F-4J/S in a short while. Short is defined, for us, as when it's ready.
Thank you.
Kat.
A request - I am potential customer for the F-4J/S. You can, as has been done before, ship the model with a RW accurate AP that has limited but realistic functions, BUT you can also code it so at the option of the user they can also add a full function AP too. That way depending on what you want to do a particular day, you can do either. There are so many things I am doing when breaking in a new plane, e.g. adding other gauges and various tweaks - or other PC things not FS related, that there are times I often really need to have full AP to maintain the flight plan (vs. hitting "pause"), just to be able to take my hand off the stick and use the keyboard, mouse, get a beverage, etc.
747jet
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Of course Katoun defends his product, I would do the same if I worked at milviz. I have a few other pay and good freeware mili jets which should be much more agile like the milviz F4. But the F4 is twice as agile like for example the JF Euro Fighter or the Aerosoft F14, F16 or even Dinos F14 and F35.
Sorry this cannot be real. Since 3 days I am waiting for logged free into the Milviz support forum but I do not get any answer.
Is it then possible to program another AP into the F4, so that I can have VS mode? I added default GPS, and the radio autopilot fsx panel. I exchanged the whole autopilot section in the aircraft.cfg but the plane does not care. It keeps its standard AP. The only thing that worked was a small change in the flight tuning.
Any ideas?
PS: I really do not want to say the F4 is a totally bad product. The VC is great and the model is one of the best I have ever seen for my fsx.
Sorry this cannot be real. Since 3 days I am waiting for logged free into the Milviz support forum but I do not get any answer.
Is it then possible to program another AP into the F4, so that I can have VS mode? I added default GPS, and the radio autopilot fsx panel. I exchanged the whole autopilot section in the aircraft.cfg but the plane does not care. It keeps its standard AP. The only thing that worked was a small change in the flight tuning.
Any ideas?
PS: I really do not want to say the F4 is a totally bad product. The VC is great and the model is one of the best I have ever seen for my fsx.
Picks jaw off floor. You're flying with a gamepad, hacking around the config and reckon it's not realistic. I don't have the Phantom but I'll bet it doesn't just use the standard FSX systems. Milviz and other top-end developers use lots of custom code to produce the flight model so just poking here and there is not going to do what you expect.
If I poke around in my modern car's engine bay I needn't expect performance improvements like in the old days. Modern FSX add-ons are similarly complex.
And get a joystick, perhaps?
If I poke around in my modern car's engine bay I needn't expect performance improvements like in the old days. Modern FSX add-ons are similarly complex.
And get a joystick, perhaps?
xpelekis
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Mach3DS
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Without getting into details...if you edit the aircraft cfg or any other configuration or command files you will completely break your F4 install. MV runs custom gauges and background processes for systems functions. Depending on what you edit you might get lucky and not break something but chances are good that you will royally Bork your aircraft function.