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MP Design Studio SA342 Gazelle available
- Thread starter euroastar350
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euroastar350
SOH-CM-2023
DaveB
Charter Member
I don't have the previous model but I guess they are...
While I'm sure this model is a blast to fly with a rig setup for helicopter flying.. it's not such a barrel of laughs using a standard joystick and no pedals. It's ok when it gets going but the two critical areas.. take-off and landing tend to be rather hit and miss. More practise and a more deft glove will probably smooth things.
Was expecting more from the soundset which is less than average on my rig. Cyril's freeware Gazelle sounds are more Gazelle IMO.
ATB
DaveB
While I'm sure this model is a blast to fly with a rig setup for helicopter flying.. it's not such a barrel of laughs using a standard joystick and no pedals. It's ok when it gets going but the two critical areas.. take-off and landing tend to be rather hit and miss. More practise and a more deft glove will probably smooth things.
Was expecting more from the soundset which is less than average on my rig. Cyril's freeware Gazelle sounds are more Gazelle IMO.
ATB
DaveB
ijay
Member
vc reflections
yeah, looks similar
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?100881-New-payware-gazelle-for-FsX
yeah, looks similar
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?100881-New-payware-gazelle-for-FsX
Hello!
It's very rare cases that users have this kind of issue with glass reflection, anyway, here is a link to download: Aerospatiale Gazelle SA342 GlassReflectionFix
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzdaNm_s3ZRwb3dfTXhnSEQyVHc
It's very rare cases that users have this kind of issue with glass reflection, anyway, here is a link to download: Aerospatiale Gazelle SA342 GlassReflectionFix
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzdaNm_s3ZRwb3dfTXhnSEQyVHc
ijay
Member
VeryNow that's impressive!! Cheers Conver
ATB
DaveB
DaveB
Charter Member
A little advice needed here.
Noting that I only use a Sidewinder Precision Pro (no pedals).. getting the Gazelle off the deck in a steady, respectable manner.. I can keep it controlled in the hover.. dip the nose gently to gain forward momentum and it will start happily moving forward. Suddenly, it will roll over to the left (almost snapping over) followed by a few seconds fighting to get it back then it's as steady as a rock. Never had a model do this before.
Anyone have any advice how to anticipate/combat/avoid this happening?? My passengers have run off!!
Lovely model inside and out and it'll be better still if I can master this sudden left roll soon after take-off
ATB
DaveB
Noting that I only use a Sidewinder Precision Pro (no pedals).. getting the Gazelle off the deck in a steady, respectable manner.. I can keep it controlled in the hover.. dip the nose gently to gain forward momentum and it will start happily moving forward. Suddenly, it will roll over to the left (almost snapping over) followed by a few seconds fighting to get it back then it's as steady as a rock. Never had a model do this before.
Anyone have any advice how to anticipate/combat/avoid this happening?? My passengers have run off!!
Lovely model inside and out and it'll be better still if I can master this sudden left roll soon after take-off
ATB
DaveB
DaveB
Your sudden roll effect is called "Transverse Flow Effect". Try google search and you will find out why you gazelle has a tendency to roll left. And pilots always have to counteract...
If you have some wind that effect will disappear.
After that tendency of "sudden left roll" you will meet "Lift Effect". Again, do a google search to find out more about it. This is a very good flight model, keep that in mind...
Meanwhile have a fun with sling loads...
P.S. Use your autopilot/sas system for steady hover flight.
Your sudden roll effect is called "Transverse Flow Effect". Try google search and you will find out why you gazelle has a tendency to roll left. And pilots always have to counteract...
If you have some wind that effect will disappear.
After that tendency of "sudden left roll" you will meet "Lift Effect". Again, do a google search to find out more about it. This is a very good flight model, keep that in mind...
Meanwhile have a fun with sling loads...
P.S. Use your autopilot/sas system for steady hover flight.
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DaveB
Charter Member
Thanks Conver
On my last flight.. I tried going a lot higher before dipping the nose (wondering if it was some sort of ground effect) and it appeared to work for me. Unfortunately.. I got it while coming in to land at Lands End instead! Yet more passengers have run off
I've tried the autopilot (briefly) and it didn't appear to be doing much. Almost certainly user error!!
For something so small, I can feel the frame hit on my i5 and sadly.. the paint kit won't open in my paint program without errors so I'm going to have to sit tight and wait for repaints. I still think the soundset.. especially outside.. is a little weak. The Gazelle has a distinctive sound and I'm not hearing it. Inside.. who cares!!
Despite these little niggles, I'm still happy
ATB
DaveB
On my last flight.. I tried going a lot higher before dipping the nose (wondering if it was some sort of ground effect) and it appeared to work for me. Unfortunately.. I got it while coming in to land at Lands End instead! Yet more passengers have run off
I've tried the autopilot (briefly) and it didn't appear to be doing much. Almost certainly user error!!
For something so small, I can feel the frame hit on my i5 and sadly.. the paint kit won't open in my paint program without errors so I'm going to have to sit tight and wait for repaints. I still think the soundset.. especially outside.. is a little weak. The Gazelle has a distinctive sound and I'm not hearing it. Inside.. who cares!!
Despite these little niggles, I'm still happy
ATB
DaveB
It is certainly a hand full.
I found that during take off heavy right rudder is required, I also push the cyclic a bit forward, then the take off appears that I am in control at least.
One thing though, I found that during take off the torque suddenly increases by itself, I don't know a lot about choppers, so I am not sure if this is normal or if I am doing something wrong.
During landing you can feel the tail rotor's effectiveness decrease, requiring lots of concentration to land properly.
At first I also noticed a slight drop in frame rate, but after I copied the alternate interior files, it seems to be fine now.
Paint kit will be a bit tricky, also it seems that the civilian model has a glossy exterior, while the military version is matte. Don't know whether this can be changed.
I only have a quick manual that explains where everything is, but no start-up/shut down procedures, however I seemed to have figured it out.
All in all a fun little helicopter, definitely worth the money.
I found that during take off heavy right rudder is required, I also push the cyclic a bit forward, then the take off appears that I am in control at least.
One thing though, I found that during take off the torque suddenly increases by itself, I don't know a lot about choppers, so I am not sure if this is normal or if I am doing something wrong.
During landing you can feel the tail rotor's effectiveness decrease, requiring lots of concentration to land properly.
At first I also noticed a slight drop in frame rate, but after I copied the alternate interior files, it seems to be fine now.
Paint kit will be a bit tricky, also it seems that the civilian model has a glossy exterior, while the military version is matte. Don't know whether this can be changed.
I only have a quick manual that explains where everything is, but no start-up/shut down procedures, however I seemed to have figured it out.
All in all a fun little helicopter, definitely worth the money.
hi folks!
DaveB:
There is a info how to use autopilot/sas on this gazele in quick manual but anyway:
1. Turn on gyro-platform (GM-position and wait for the flags to come out)
2. Turn on Trim switch
3. Turn on F.Mag switch
4. On autopilot panel, select Vi mode (small switch at the end of right side)
5. Turn on all three channels (up position is for autopilot)
6. Turn on autopilot master switch
If you are on the ground and all set , just slowly apply some collective and helicopter will do a hover for you.
Each time if you want to add new flight parameter to autopilot (while you are in flight) you have to restart channel by turn it off and back on (pitch, roll, yaw)
Don't know why you can't open paint kit. I use Adobe Photoshop and everything is fine.
About sound: Interior sounds are muffled intentionally in order to create the effect of pilot headset.
RaFi:
Gazelle is clockwise rotor system and right pedal is required until you gain 150 km/h of airspeed. Then your vertical stabilizer does a job for you. Your pedals should be in neutral position. After passing 150 km/h, efficiency of vertical stabilizer is growing more and more so opposite (left pedal) is required.
About procedures: we created checklist in our previous version (Soko Mostar - Gazela SA342) but no one has payed attention to it. This Gazelle is so real that you can use real flight manual.
Did anyone tried to land or maintain flight with simulation of hydraulic system failure? (hydraulic switch is in red box on collective, turn it off but be advised)
Have a fun guys!
DaveB:
There is a info how to use autopilot/sas on this gazele in quick manual but anyway:
1. Turn on gyro-platform (GM-position and wait for the flags to come out)
2. Turn on Trim switch
3. Turn on F.Mag switch
4. On autopilot panel, select Vi mode (small switch at the end of right side)
5. Turn on all three channels (up position is for autopilot)
6. Turn on autopilot master switch
If you are on the ground and all set , just slowly apply some collective and helicopter will do a hover for you.
Each time if you want to add new flight parameter to autopilot (while you are in flight) you have to restart channel by turn it off and back on (pitch, roll, yaw)
Don't know why you can't open paint kit. I use Adobe Photoshop and everything is fine.
About sound: Interior sounds are muffled intentionally in order to create the effect of pilot headset.
RaFi:
Gazelle is clockwise rotor system and right pedal is required until you gain 150 km/h of airspeed. Then your vertical stabilizer does a job for you. Your pedals should be in neutral position. After passing 150 km/h, efficiency of vertical stabilizer is growing more and more so opposite (left pedal) is required.
About procedures: we created checklist in our previous version (Soko Mostar - Gazela SA342) but no one has payed attention to it. This Gazelle is so real that you can use real flight manual.
Did anyone tried to land or maintain flight with simulation of hydraulic system failure? (hydraulic switch is in red box on collective, turn it off but be advised)
Have a fun guys!
Fireball6
Charter Member
Hi Conver,
may i ask, how can we activate the sling-load ? I had a look in the manual but find no advise. And as i found no specs or alphas i think that the glossy shine is embedded in the .mdl or ? Is it possible to reduce the shine a bit ?
Otherwise very great level of detail and i like the way it fly ....
Kind regards
Dirk
may i ask, how can we activate the sling-load ? I had a look in the manual but find no advise. And as i found no specs or alphas i think that the glossy shine is embedded in the .mdl or ? Is it possible to reduce the shine a bit ?
Otherwise very great level of detail and i like the way it fly ....
Kind regards
Dirk
Hi Conver,
I bought both of your Gazelles and the checklist you provided with the Soko Mostar is definitely related to this version (i.e. refering to Yugoslav's instruments and labelling).
An Aerospatiale type checklist would be more than welcome !
Regards
Yes specific checklist would be very welcome. Wonderful simulation as well. Sink with power will call you out quick too.
DaveB
Charter Member
Yup.. it would be great to have so burn an extra copy off for me too
EDIT:
Unfortunately, my income doesn't stretch to Photoshop. I use Photoshop Elements which doesn't handle groups particularly well.. especially those made with later versions of the full program.
ATB
DaveB
EDIT:
Unfortunately, my income doesn't stretch to Photoshop. I use Photoshop Elements which doesn't handle groups particularly well.. especially those made with later versions of the full program.
ATB
DaveB