NAS Fallon Payware

[tigisfat]

It's heartwarming when we all get together to talk crap..:mixedsmi:..and everyone's having a good time with no hurt feelings. Ah, true holiday spirit.

 

[TheOptimist]

It's heartwarming when we all get together to talk about crap..

Couldn't help myself.

 

[falcon409]

Why? Yours is far superior to his attempt. I really find it hard to believe that ANY store would sell his products (or that anyone would buy them!). Wonder if I can write a review without actually buying the product, Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Actually I started to do that and thought better of it, Instead I sent him an e-mail. Not ugly or anything like that, simply asking questions about what objects he uses and if any custom work was included.
It'll be interesting to see if he replies.

 

[Kiwikat]

It's heartwarming when we all get together to talk crap..:mixedsmi:..and everyone's having a good time with no hurt feelings. Ah, true holiday spirit.

That is the best part about the Outhouse. It's what makes this place better than any other forum out there. We all have our differences from time to time, and some of us more than others, but it usually ends with a laugh and everything's good.

I don't know what I'd do if I couldn't harass Lionheart anymore! :ernae:

Thanks to all the mods, members, and especially Ickie, for keeping this place fun.

 

[stovall]

Jim, sure am glad for your work. All I have to do is see your name attached to a scenery and I for one am on board. Your Fallon work is superb as I said when it came out. Keep up the good work and especially the previews of the wips. Much appreciated.

 

[anthony31]

Congratulations Jim. Your work is now officially "Better than payware quality". :mixedsmi:
Here is your medal for this rare but well deserved achievement

 

[Mickey D]

For those of us spend hours sweating in FSDS and Gmax/3 DS Max to create unique buildings for our scenery projects it's often galling when some 'get rich quick' simmer comes along with scenery built from FSX default objects. Probably some kid in his bedroom thinking " Hey I can make a bit of money here." We could offer him the wealth of our collective knowledge so he can design his own models to "improve" his offerings.
In the meantime rather than ridicule his scenery perhaps we should encourage him to create more.

"Why?" you may ask. Well it's doing wonders for Team SDB sales. Hehe! Wonderful scenery let's have more. :ernae:

Serously though we all had to start somewhere it's just that most of us cut their teeth on Freeware first.

 

[shaunthesheep]

I think he's taking the p*ss with this one http://www.fspilotshop.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=300&products_id=2375

"The Pirate base looks like it just ties into the city, and vanishes away into the Auto Generated city." Is that because it IS autogen?

 

[falcon409]

I wrote to the e-mail addy they posted for support, basically suggesting that maybe their addons needed to be posted via flightsim.com or AVsim rather than charging for it.

His reply was laced with suggestions that there were, in fact, custom buildings that he did for all his sceneries and that while he did find default objects "boring" that he went beyond that by adding "other objects" to liven the scenery up and make it more "realistic". He also made it very clear that he felt he deserved to be paid for the work he did and that future releases would contain "even more" custom work. I had asked him about adding photoreal imagery for groundcover and he had no idea how that was done and neither did anyone else on his "team".

So, either he didn't get what I was trying to tell him, in a nice way, or he simply doesn't really care what anyone thinks and is perfectly happy to design airports using default objects and then charging for it.

 

[robcap]

Is that because it IS autogen?

That one really beats it. some people........:isadizzy:

 

[jimjones]

Jim, you have great scenery addon. Have most of them.

Your competition may just be learning scenery design. He may also learn about the economics of marketing. In any event he may someday develop into a serious designer. Don't want to be too harsh on a persons early efforts.

 

[shaunthesheep]

I'm still trying to get my head round the term "Static AI" yet. Can some AI guru on here please explain it in simple terms to me.

 

[MCDesigns]

I'm still trying to get my head round the term "Static AI" yet. Can some AI guru on here please explain it in simple terms to me.

basically it is an AI flight that only moves once during the night, so in all theory it is static as it just sits on the tarmac most of the time.

 

[MCDesigns]

He also made it very clear that he felt he deserved to be paid for the work he did

That says it all for me . When using defauilt objects and the tools others have made (including MS) it takes most of the work out of it. Thanks Ed for posting that.

 

[jdhaenens]

I have no qualms with him getting paid. He works . I guess my problem is that he gets front page access with (IMO) trash and I have to beg to even have my stuff announced. All because of a few bucks, a site will showcase this kind of stuff and will pass good freeware stuff off. I guess every little bit helps. I'm done.

 

[Bjoern]

It is sad that is being marketed.

It appears that quality is not a prerequisite.

...as long as there's people paying for this.

So, either he didn't get what I was trying to tell him, in a nice way, or he simply doesn't really care what anyone thinks and is perfectly happy to design airports using default objects and then charging for it.

Gentlemen, we've just hit rock bottom in the MSFS world.

this si the one were all waiting for right? loooks amazing jim whata job! who need the thunderbirds now lmao this si getting spead in my sim in the RAF no doubt there!

Pete, please don't post when you're drunk. :|

 

[falcon409]

basically it is an AI flight that only moves once during the night, so in all theory it is static as it just sits on the tarmac most of the time.

That's another thing I mentioned to him in the e-mail. . .he refers to the aircraft on the aprons as "StaticAI" which as you say Michael denotes an AI aircraft that flies but remains static for most of the time and only flies late at night. Unfortunately his aircraft are scenery objects and aren't true AI aircraft. He never answered that one, lol.

 

[IanP]

Hey, can I be paid for the junk I made last night for bloomin' RAF Grimsby?

Come to think of it, I might as well let you lot loose on that to find things to complain about... I'll throw up a thread shortly.