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[Paul J]

Sean - Naismith - you're both way more eloquent than I. Do either of you give lessons?

You've echoed my sentiments in a way that I should have perhaps - so a big "Thank You".

Also looking forward to this release.

pj

 

[Roger]

IMHO I thought the relevant word in MSFS was Simulator otherwise it would ne MSFG where G = Game.
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And this is relevant to this thread in what way?

 

[Naki]

Jeepers it's only $15 US on release....if it $40 I would expect a lot more but at $15 it's a bargain...although it does go up to $20 later but that is still pretty cheap

 

[guzzi]

Well as the jF Chippie is not yet with us, any debate about realism in systems is purely hypothetical. For myself I have no pretensions to be a real world pilot but more, I demand that my virtual world looks as good as it can. If a model takes more than 2 or 3 minutes to get airborne then I'm not interested...I simply haven't the time or patience.
I'm amazed that this latest offering in the pipeline from jF has caused such controversy and would suggest that we let this thread inform and wait for the finished product.
This thread is being closely watched and will be closed if necessary.

WHY? Can't people express an opinion? Is the developer a mate of yours? I see no bad language - just debate and some criticsm. Sorry Roger some of us are R/W pilots and maybe do have higher standards, and some of us have first hand knowledge of the aircraft so may tend to be more critical than others. RP set the bar high when he released his original Chipmunk,although now dated -it is natural that JF's/AH's? new model would be compared to this. The same deficiencies in the model from the several screenshots released have been pointed out over at CBFS, (where knowledge of British built aircraft, dare I say tends to be superior than here) and debated - that I think is nature when a new model is released - especially if it is intended to be payware.

Off course no one knows exactly what the model will be like until release, then we'll be able to judge further. The price seems apealling, the cockpit looks good as pointed out previously by PaulJ. (Paul don't know if your member over at CBFS -but think you would be appreciated over there if not!) It has my favourite paint scheme to be found on a Chippy http://www.captainnevillesflyingcircus.org.uk/page14.htm .

 

[delta_lima]

For %*$# sake, people ... it's not that hard ...

Polemic, axe-to-grind criticism - even if supported by fact = no likely to be productive.

Constructive criticism based on fact with the aim of helping produce a better outcome, in a collegial tone = higher chance of being productive.

Don't we all work with people in our day jobs? Is this not obvious?

Sheesh.

Back to the Chippie - I echo the preference by whomever it was that pointed out the clearer, as opposed to more bluer, canopy texture. I can appreciate what the effect is trying to achieve, and it may look good from the outside, but the sim just doesn't seem to replicate real world tinted optics that well. Again, I'm no expert here - just stating a preference.

Reviewing PJ's comments about the top wing/rib surface - I can appreciate there appears to be an exaggeration of the skin contours between ribs in the screenshots - fair is fair - even if the tone was offensive, there appears to be some merit in that particular observation. Again, I think JF has heard this loud and clear, and believe it's fair to give them the benefit until the product is released.

DL

 

[Roger]

WHY? Can't people express an opinion? Is the developer a mate of yours? I see no bad language - just debate and some criticsm. Sorry Roger some of us are R/W pilots and maybe do have higher standards, and some of us have first hand knowledge of the aircraft so may tend to be more critical than others. RP set the bar high when he released his original Chipmunk,although now dated -it is natural that JF's/AH's? new model would be compared to this. The same deficiencies in the model from the several screenshots released have been pointed out over at CBFS, (where knowledge of British built aircraft, dare I say tends to be superior than here) and debated - that I think is nature when a new model is released - especially if it is intended to be payware.

Off course no one knows exactly what the model will be like until release, then we'll be able to judge further. The price seems apealling, the cockpit looks good as pointed out previously by PaulJ. (Paul don't know if your member over at CBFS -but think you would be appreciated over there if not!) It has my favourite paint scheme to be found on a Chippy http://www.captainnevillesflyingcircus.org.uk/page14.htm .

The model has not been released hence the reason for my post. How can anyone pass judgement on a product that isn't available for assessment? Unfortunately Paul was not aware that as staff we stand back from judgement unless we feel that a product has been pirated or plagiarised or bashed unfairly.

The thread will be closed now. Martyn and Bazzar please feel free to open a new thread closer to release.