New computer with Windows 7... 64 bit question.......

[modelr]

This darn thing made my life a lot easier:

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1911-take-ownership-shortcut.html



I take it that NOT putting FSX into the default is preferred due to the differing ways the OS treats the program?

Since using the Takeownership thingy, I have zero problems with installations, add-ons, etc. Also using the "run as admin" as a habit has stopped all problems. I spend 98% of my sim time (which isn't much) just doing add-on cfg changing, (ai and scenery combining, I hate having a 1000 ai aircraft folders for one aircraft. Same with scenery.) I combine everything I can. It does slow down my "file-folder" defrags, but seems to speed up searches.

I do let my installs go to the program folders, since the takeownership key stops the UAC from creating the roadblocks.

 

[warchild]

Does that asynch vs synched ram work on the video board also?? Is that even adjustable??

XFX-ATI HD 4890 1GB DDR5 PCIE
AMD PhenomIIx4 810 2.6GHZ
6GB Ram

afraid not, graphics cards have their own memory controller that acts independently of the motherbord..

at least on an evga 780i, the entry your looking for in their cmos setup is FSB Memory Ratio. set that to sync and you should see an improvement..
anyway suns up now.. must be bedtime :: hope i can help.. let us know how things go :0
Pam

 

[IanHenry]

Can someone tell me how I change from asynch to synch on an MSI Motherboard? I've looked in the BIOS but can't find anything bearing those names.

Regards,
Ian.

 

[warchild]

Can someone tell me how I change from asynch to synch on an MSI Motherboard? I've looked in the BIOS but can't find anything bearing those names.

Regards,
Ian.

Which MSI motherboard do you have Ian?? Some of MSI's stuff uses the bios ( Cmos Ram ) for overclocking ( which for some reason memory ratios get lumped into ), some use software switches and others cant be changed at all. If you can get the model number of your board, we can look up almost anything about it.

 

[IanHenry]

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my motherboard is a MSI X58 Platinum SLI. I have looked on the MSI site and can find no information on this subject.
Regards,
Ian.
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[warchild]

MSI is probably going to be the last place you want to look.. only nVidia and its partners openly encourage messing around with the low level settings in the BIOS.. AMD supports it but keeps it real quiet.. I looked around the web but found mostly revues for your motherboard. Accordingly, you have a very nice motherboard. But i couldnt find anything about the BIOS. Since its SLI I'm assuming its an Intel based system as AMD uses Crossfire. and there was a BUIS update offered for your board, but if you arent very familiar with computers, i'd let your local computer shop set that up. it may be a bit expensive, but it beats having to buy a new motherboard with knowing you yourself fried it. Whule there, have them put the fsb memory mode into sync mode. hopefully they'll understand what your talking about and prove themselves to be a bit more knowledgeable than a fudge brownie.. If they dont know, take the machine somewhere else.. i wont kid you or make things look pretty. You'll be changing things that could if changed without knowledge, actually cause more damage than good.
Also look around the overclockers sites.. there may be some clues there that will help you out. Extreme overclocking ( http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/ ) is one of the better and more knowledgeable groups..
I'll help more as i can, but it may take me some time to do the research..
wish i could have helped more today..
Pam

 

[luckydog]

Hi Luckydog,

What motherboard did you choose?



I think you can use the Turbo Core feature to boost the speed up to 3.3 GHz.

Regards,
Stratobat

You're right Stratobat !!
.........THANKS for bringing that up !!!!!!
I completely missed that feature ( specs say the Turbo mode will boost it as high as 3.6 ).
UPS is now saying Mon. or Tues., darnit. I can't wait to "fly" this thing !!

LD

 

[IanHenry]

Thanks Pam.

Ian.

 

[Javis]

Jan,FSX DOES benefit from the 64 bit architecture in that it recognizes and uses all of your 12 gig of ram. In 32 bit you would only see and use +/- 3.2 Gigs.

Thanks, Ian !

Excuse my ignorance, but, taking Dave's comment about the C:\ Program Files(x86) folder into account, would that mean that i'd be better off with installing FSX in this folder rather than on a seperate drive, especially for FSX, like is the case now ?... I mean, would that possibly stop the BSOD's ??.....

I configured this Alienware Area51ALX monster machine as per the advice of an FS guru ( sadly i seem to have lost the link to the site ) who stated a.o. that installing FSX on its own drive, using *only* about half of its capacity, would be the most preferable thing to do.

So that's what i did.... The first time i ran my freshly installed virgin FSX i got my first BSOD after only 10 minutes of flight..... This couldn't have been more depressing than if a boxing glove would've emerged from the monitor and hit me smack dab in the face....

Tweaked a lot since then and it's better now, haven't encountered a bsod for some time of flying FSX but a lockup can still easily happen f.i. after switching aircraft, Go to another airport, or changing weather, etc.

Otherwise i'm in Flightsimmer's heaven with this monster machine but that should be clear..

Cheers,
Jan

 

[Javis]

Sorry i'm not Dave but i thought i'd take a whack at explaining it..

Thanks a lot for your elaborate explanation, Pam, highly appreciated ! :salute:

Truth is i'm far from a computer expert... compared to my car, i think i'm a good driver, i can change a sparkplug or a wheel, or even oil if need be but that's about it...

With my earlier puters, which often just stopped working, i learned a little bit about the Cmos menu but since i bought my first Dell computer i can't even remember having seen one...

After reading your explanation it's therefore been the first time since years that i hit the F2 key during initial start-up... Been carefully looking around ( still scares the hell out of me... ) but i simply can't find anything related to ram, let alone changing the memory mode from asynch to synch....

Can you please steer me in the right direction here, Pam ?....

Btw, it's 12GB 1600MHz (3x4GB) Tri Channel Memory sitting there in the dungeons of my Alienware Area51ALX monster. Processor is : Intel Core i7-980x(3.33GHz,6.4GT/s 12MB ). Graphics : Single 1.5GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480. Two 600GB Serial ATA HD's plus one 300GB Serial ATA HD, all at 10000 rpm, the latter just for FSX. This all coming to live on a 30" Dell 3008WFP monitor. OS : Dutch Genuine Windows 7 Professional (64 BIT)

Would love to try anything to get rid of the bsod's ( initially each FSX testflight ended with one.... ) although after a lot of tweaking and using nHancer it seems a lot better now. Bsod logs always name 'XTUservice' as the source ( Intel Extreme Tuning Utility ) and error : XMP Initialization Failed. Blue screen mostly says : SYSTEM_SERVICE_EXCEPTION MEMORY MANAGEMENT

Thanks again, Pam !

Cheers,
Jan

 

[warchild]

Wellllll, I dont know anything about Intels extreme tuning Utility ( XTU ) but there seems to be a lot of people having issues because of it.. if you google XTUservice, it brings up several pages of people having those issues.. Never having had any personal experience with XTU i find myself at a loss of knowledge, and can only recommend that you search those forums where people have reported the problems. If a solution exists, its bound to be in there, somewhere.

 

[Javis]

Well, yes, that's what i've been doing, Pam. I actually couldn't find much info about it, just mostly complaints, like you say. Absolutely no info to find about it on my system neither, like it doesn't even exists...

It sits at the Services tab on System Config and is always active. I stopped and unchecked it and found FSX to look horrible so one can't do without it.

But i'd still love to try your tip about changing memory mode from asynch to synch ( or wouldn't that help with ironing out these bsod's in the first place... ? ) Could you please explain how exactly to do that, Pam ?

Thanks a lot on forehand! :salute:

Cheers,
Jan

 

[Javis]

But i'd still love to try your tip about changing memory mode from asynch to synch ( or wouldn't that help with ironing out these bsod's in the first place... ? ) Could you please explain how exactly to do that, Pam ?

Pam ??.....

 

[Francois]

Hi Jan,

I've also been searching for you, and the most regularly issue that seems to pop up is people mentioning bad RAM in some way.
Maybe you could switch the RAM chips to another slot? And test the RAM?

Other issues seem to indicate incompatible graphics driver software.... but I guess you already downloaded the latest video drivers from Guru3D.com for your card?

Sorry not to have many more ideas...

Francois

 

[Javis]

Hi Jan,I've also been searching for you, and the most regularly issue that seems to pop up is people mentioning bad RAM in some way.Maybe you could switch the RAM chips to another slot? And test the RAM?

Certainly worth a try. Thanks Francois !

Other issues seem to indicate incompatible graphics driver software.... but I guess you already downloaded the latest video drivers from Guru3D.com for your card?

Verdomt! THAT's it! I have always downloaded new drivers from Guru3D but i lost the link and couldn't for the live of me remember its name anymore so this time i downloaded the newest drivers for the GTX480 from nVidia ( 8.17.12.5896 ). No change however....

But thanks for the name, mate !

Sorry not to have many more ideas..

No, that's perfectly alright, Francois, don't worry. Thanks a lot for your concern ! :salute:

Cheers,
Jan