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Jagdflieger
Jr. Admin
Finally got one!
The damage model looks very good.
Here is a comparison between factory new and battle worn.
The damage model looks very good.
Here is a comparison between factory new and battle worn.
Robert John
Charter Member
What fantastic looking work. If only we could crank up the cfs2 engine and not worry about fps.
I don't own a powerful computer so I dont really know how my models run on faster computers.
It wont be too long our slow computers will be replaced.
Robert John
I don't own a powerful computer so I dont really know how my models run on faster computers.
It wont be too long our slow computers will be replaced.
Robert John
kelticheart
Charter Member
Splendid job Pen!
Even if I'll have to take some quick bailout refresher courses!
Even if I'll have to take some quick bailout refresher courses!
Cheers!
KH :ernae:
KH :ernae:
Thanks Gents;
Robert, these should work well on low end PC's too. The lower LOD's are actually very poly friendly and since I use 5 LOD's so you have get very close to them before the high poly LOD's kick in. Having a couple of Beta Testers with different levels of PC's always helps too. If you know they run well/look good on a lower end PC you know they'll kick kiester on a higher end rig. Hope you get your upgrades soon!!!
On the gmax side there are a few tricks I use to getting lower poly counts by Welding Verticies and deleting unseen poly's. Example, you have a flat ended 8 sided cylinder, 8 verticies on the outside edge and one in the center. If the end of the cylinder is not pointed or concave take the center vertex and weld it to one of the outer edge verticies. If you do both ends that's 2 less polys, 4 less triangles just in that one part. Believe it or not, on a complex object that can save you a couple of hundred polys. Another great thing to have when trying to optimize your models is to have a second set of eyes look at it. I've found I can miss an opportunity now and then after looking at the same model hundereds of times. If you ever want me to look over a model for you I'd be happy to help.
KH, thanks and keep your silk dry. More to come. Things have been going well and I now hope we can put these out this weekend if not before.
Robert, these should work well on low end PC's too. The lower LOD's are actually very poly friendly and since I use 5 LOD's so you have get very close to them before the high poly LOD's kick in. Having a couple of Beta Testers with different levels of PC's always helps too. If you know they run well/look good on a lower end PC you know they'll kick kiester on a higher end rig. Hope you get your upgrades soon!!!
On the gmax side there are a few tricks I use to getting lower poly counts by Welding Verticies and deleting unseen poly's. Example, you have a flat ended 8 sided cylinder, 8 verticies on the outside edge and one in the center. If the end of the cylinder is not pointed or concave take the center vertex and weld it to one of the outer edge verticies. If you do both ends that's 2 less polys, 4 less triangles just in that one part. Believe it or not, on a complex object that can save you a couple of hundred polys. Another great thing to have when trying to optimize your models is to have a second set of eyes look at it. I've found I can miss an opportunity now and then after looking at the same model hundereds of times. If you ever want me to look over a model for you I'd be happy to help.
KH, thanks and keep your silk dry. More to come. Things have been going well and I now hope we can put these out this weekend if not before.
Ravenna
SOH-CM-2023
Just found this. Probably of no use for now, but perhaps for future reference.View attachment 32185
Thanks Rav;
That's great, it has the RAL Numbers on it which is the important thing. I've got a paint site I go to to get bmp samples by RAL #. Then I open the bmp in PSP, get all of the RGB, Hue, Brightness, etc data and finally create a new Material in gmax based on that data. This is how I did all of the colors for the guns themselves.
From your sample it looks like we're pretty bloody close to the real mccoy.
That's great, it has the RAL Numbers on it which is the important thing. I've got a paint site I go to to get bmp samples by RAL #. Then I open the bmp in PSP, get all of the RGB, Hue, Brightness, etc data and finally create a new Material in gmax based on that data. This is how I did all of the colors for the guns themselves.
From your sample it looks like we're pretty bloody close to the real mccoy.
Hello Pen32Win,
Excellent job, the quad version will also be a great addition, many thanks and keep up the great work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:ernae:
(Unfortunately most of my good references are still in storage and probably will be for at least the next 6 months, will be after some tips and advice from you when they are liberated from the storage Stalag, anybody interested in a Jap 25mm triple barrel version, a 20mm Polsten, a Russian 85mm, the two versions of the 3.7inch mobile and static, and a good M16 quad 50 cal ?)
Excellent job, the quad version will also be a great addition, many thanks and keep up the great work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:ernae:(Unfortunately most of my good references are still in storage and probably will be for at least the next 6 months, will be after some tips and advice from you when they are liberated from the storage Stalag, anybody interested in a Jap 25mm triple barrel version, a 20mm Polsten, a Russian 85mm, the two versions of the 3.7inch mobile and static, and a good M16 quad 50 cal ?)
Thanks Seagull;
I know the 25mm is part of the stock scenery but is in dire need of an upgrade. I also know the Japanese fielded a lot of twin 25mm's too. I think the rest on your list are all good projects and wide open. The 20mm Polsten would be really cool and is almost unheard of outside of historian minded circles. That being said, the QF 3.7' would be be my first choice.
The four German AA Guns I'm working on now are a set-up for a bigger project. Once they're completed I want to try my hand at AFV's. To start with several vaiants of the SdKfz FlaK AFV's (6/2, 7/1, 7/2, 10/4, 10/5, 251/17 Ausf C, 140/Gepard), FlaK 43 sWS , the Ostwin, Wirblewind and Mobelwagen. These should keep me busy for quite awhile.
I know the 25mm is part of the stock scenery but is in dire need of an upgrade. I also know the Japanese fielded a lot of twin 25mm's too. I think the rest on your list are all good projects and wide open. The 20mm Polsten would be really cool and is almost unheard of outside of historian minded circles. That being said, the QF 3.7' would be be my first choice.
The four German AA Guns I'm working on now are a set-up for a bigger project. Once they're completed I want to try my hand at AFV's. To start with several vaiants of the SdKfz FlaK AFV's (6/2, 7/1, 7/2, 10/4, 10/5, 251/17 Ausf C, 140/Gepard), FlaK 43 sWS , the Ostwin, Wirblewind and Mobelwagen. These should keep me busy for quite awhile.
Sarg Willy
SOH-CM-2014
Lookin Great thanks Pen
Jean Bomber
Landscape Gardener
Tested ! ,Thanks for this new flak pak Pen :ernae:
JP
JP
Wow, I've had my head down working on the P-51D update and just now got to look at these Pen. All it needs is bodies strewn around the damage model and I would think I had been transported back in time. What a great job.
THANK YOU
THANK YOU
Ravenna
SOH-CM-2023
On my way. Thanks Pen!
Ghostrider
Charter Member 2012
Sweet
Hey Pen,
Fantastic work - could almost turn me into an ETO guy - reminds me of Tamiya 1/35th scale models in the 80's. I was going to ask about the Mobelwagen the Flak 38 quad 20mm on a PZKPFW IV chassis - that could make close air support very interesting! sounds like you're already on it!
Hey Pen,
Fantastic work - could almost turn me into an ETO guy - reminds me of Tamiya 1/35th scale models in the 80's. I was going to ask about the Mobelwagen the Flak 38 quad 20mm on a PZKPFW IV chassis - that could make close air support very interesting! sounds like you're already on it!
Thank You Rami and GR;
More to come as soon as I get all of my new installs worked out. Which is going well now. Got all of my excessive weapons and DP's sorted
GR;
The Mobelwagen was produced with the 3.7cm Flak 43, only a single prototype was made with the Flakvierling 38. You're thinking about the Wirbelwind. Both were based on the Panzer IV chassis but the Mobelwagen had 4 fold down sides were the Wirbelwind (and Ostwind) had a six sided turret. Yes Sir, as soon as I get the three other ground mount AA guns done I'm going to start putting them on their respective AFV's.
One of the best sources for figuring out what the individual parts looked like and how they were constructed is plastic models. 3-View Drawings are great for getting the size and proportions right but they're not very good for seeing the details.
Thanks Again Gents.
More to come as soon as I get all of my new installs worked out. Which is going well now. Got all of my excessive weapons and DP's sorted
GR;
The Mobelwagen was produced with the 3.7cm Flak 43, only a single prototype was made with the Flakvierling 38. You're thinking about the Wirbelwind. Both were based on the Panzer IV chassis but the Mobelwagen had 4 fold down sides were the Wirbelwind (and Ostwind) had a six sided turret. Yes Sir, as soon as I get the three other ground mount AA guns done I'm going to start putting them on their respective AFV's.
One of the best sources for figuring out what the individual parts looked like and how they were constructed is plastic models. 3-View Drawings are great for getting the size and proportions right but they're not very good for seeing the details.
Thanks Again Gents.