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New Gotha bombers series thread

Gotha G.V Bomber uploaded.

Hello Folks,
The first of the Gotha G.V bomber trio is ready, and I´ve just uploaded it.
It will be available as soon as it has been accepted by the library.

Here is the link. http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...d=124&id=25654

Martin Klein has added new custom fuel gauges for the wing tank and main tanks, as well as another of his texture-gems, unit 670/16 in night livery with a golden snake on the fuselage side, so now there are 4 liveries available for the G.V:
G.V 915/16 "Cassiopeia" in dark irregular night-lozenge pattern, with the constellation on the fuselage side.
G.V 901/16 in irregular daytime lozenge pattern, at a time before the addition of "fuselage art".
G.V 670/16 in white, with a green snake, a symbol frequently used on Gotha "G" aircraft, painted on the fuselage sides.
G.V 670/16 in dark night-bomber irregular lozenge, with a golden snake painted on the fuselage sides.

I hope you enjoy it!
Do Let me know if anything is amiss.
Cheers,
Aleatorylamp
 

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CFS2 Gotha G.V Bomber 1917 - 4 liveries.zip

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A new entry has been added to Add-Ons Library, category CFS 2 Aircraft - World War I

Description: CFS2 Gotha G.V Grossflugzeug, 1917
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German WW1 strategic bomber Built by the Gothaer Waggonfabrik A.G., with improvements over previous Gotha G.IV, with improved avionics, more aerodynamic engine nacelles and inboard fuel tanks for safety reasons, which blocked off the open walkway to the rear gunner-well behind the pilot´s cockpit.

It was powered by 2 high-compression, throttle gated, 6-cyl Mercedes D.IVa engines, altitude rated at 267 Hp at 1300 metres.

Maximum speed was 140 kph,and it could carry a bomb load of 500 kg.

Upgrade for CFS2, with several texture-mapping correction and 4 new historical liveries created by Martin Klein.

G.V 915/16 "Cassiopeia" in dark irregular night-lozenge pattern, with the constellation on the fuselage side.

G.V 901/16 in irregular daytime lozenge pattern, at a time before the addition of "fuselage art."

G.V 670/16 in white, with a green snake, a symbol frequently used on Gotha "G" aircraft, painted on the fuselage sides.

G.V 670/16 in dark night-bomber irregular lozenge, with a golden snake painted on the fuselage sides.

Thread related to the development of this model: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...euge?p=1191466

Custom photo-realistic panel by Kdriver, with authentic custom gauges by Martin Klein. Dp Files with help from Ravenna.

By Stephan Scholz.

To check it out, rate it or add comments, visit CFS2 Gotha G.V Bomber 1917 - 4 liveries.zip
The comments you make there will appear in the posts below.
 
Fuel Management and Checklists.

Hello Folks,

I thought the fuel system worked automatically, so I didn´t mention any details on how it should be in the Gotha G.V.

Just in case it doesn´t for some of you, to make the fuel system work properly, do the following:

In Settings / Realism Settings, in the Stores section, enable Auto Fuel Management.

Then, in the Control Assignments, you can define the "ç" key for auto transfer,
the "´" key to the left of it for fuel transfer aft, (these two are usually free) and
the "L" key for fuel transfer forward (this key was for instrument lights).

When you are low on fuel you will see how the tank gauges respond to the keystrokes.

Additional Note: A slight bug: The Checklists won´t show. Please Change the name of the checklist file from "KB_GothaG5_CHECK.txt" to "GothaG5_CHECK.txt". Sorry!

Soon to come, will be the Gotha G.Va and Gotha G.Vb!
Cheers,
Aleatorylamp
 
Reply...

Aleatorylamp,

Thank you for yet another beautiful bomber in this series!
 
Ravenna

An apt comment. I've gotten used to the small number of responses on everything I upload. Lots of views but little feedback or appreciation for the hours and sweat that goes into making something for the community seems to be the norm and it's frustrating.

C'mon guys, if you view it and especially if you download it, give the developer(s) some kudos in return.

This is a nice looking addition. Well done, fellas!
 
Teamwork

Hello Rami,
Thank you! Glad you like it! ...we do what we can.
I must emphasize, however, that Martin Klein is really throwing his weight with his historically very well researched and beautifully created textures, i.e. the irregular lozenge patch patterns for the daylight and night-time liveries, and also the plain white livery. All these immensely enhance the models. Also, he created almost all of the custom authentic gauges used on the panel.
Then, Kdriver made the authentic panel, adapting it from a b/w photograph, and Ravenna ironed out the Dp files which I was having so much trouble with. They are both the main test pilots as well!

Here are some evening screenshots of the G.V. on the way back from London.
I took advantage of capturing all four liveries, as changing planes won´t alter fuel-load.
I was testing fuel-consumption from Gontrode to London and back, but I mistakenly flew at 1300 ft.
Probably that didn´t do much for the range... so I´ll be lucky if I make it to the Belgian coast again.
It seems that the best speed is around 5000 ft, as the Mercedes D.IVa were altitude-rated at 4265 ft. with 267 hp.

Well, now we´re finishing the other two, the G.Va and G.Vb.
Cheers,
Aleatorylamp
 

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Thank you! Thank you!! Is it just me, or do others get an error 404 on the link in message 101 at the top of this page. The first link in message 102 also results in the same error, while the second link in message 102 works.

Also, it seems this download doesn't show in the Warbirds Library thread. Or is it my poor eyes? :biggrin-new:
 
Thank you! Thank you!! Is it just me, or do others get an error 404 on the link in message 101 at the top of this page. The first link in message 102 also results in the same error, while the second link in message 102 works.

Also, it seems this download doesn't show in the Warbirds Library thread. Or is it my poor eyes? :biggrin-new:

The message link does not work because admin moved the thread to consolidate it with the release announcement here. The Warbirds link does work, or you can go here to the actual address:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=124&id=25654
 
G.Va and G.Vb soon to be uploaded.

Hello Folks,

Thank you Capt. Kurt for clarifying the message link thing!
I´m glad you like the Gotha G.V, Typhoon Willy, and thanks for everyone´s motivating comments.
The Gotha G.V is to be found in the CFS2 Warbirds Library in the WW1 Aircraft section.

I´ve been a bit ill, and also very busy as the rest of our team, preparing a bomb-aimer´s panel for the Gotha G.V Series.
Martin Klein and Kdriver have been of great assistance to me, and Ravenna has been busy testing and counselling.
Martin set up the panel windows with buttons, and I´ve finally figured out how these windows work in CFS2.

The Bomb-aimer´s oblique down-view (outside, where the bombsight was in reality placed) includes the 3D outside view of
fuselage-nose and wheels, and incorporates a calibrated scale with crosshairs for the different altitudes of a bombing run.

A vintage autopilot gauge (that Smilo of SOH CFS1 Forum let me have - Hello Smilo, thanks!), will do the work of your pilot,
and in effect, functions in a very realistic way, like an engine telegraph, as if the bomber/commander were instructing the
pilot to hold heading and altitude for the bombing run.

The different altitudes for Gotha G.V series daylight and night raids are catered for.

Martin has also continued providing necessary custom instruments, which will also be included in the upcoming uploads.
The fuel selector now is not only decorative, but works for to select the auxiliary wing tank (set as default for engine
start-up, and then to switch to main tanks.

Also, a couple of minor things have been fixed - something always crops up, doesn´t it?... but I think I´ve got them all.

Attached to this post is an explanatory 6-picture tutorial on how the bomb aimer´s panel can be put to work (in this case I used the Gotha G.Va - you can see the right front-wheel), including a very basic beginning related to the flight-plan, which probably everyone knows about anyway... but pictures 4 to 6 will be of help, I´m sure.
If anyone should were to have any questions, don´t hesitate to ask.

I will very soon be uploading the Gotha G.Va "Dragon" and G.Vb, which will have several different liveries.

I´m also planning to update the already uploaded G.V, which will now get the new bomb aimer´s panel as well, including
the upgraded gauges. This time the bombsight is under the nose, in the position of the original "Goerz" one.

Cheers,
Aleatorylamp
 

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Gotha G.Va and G.Vb uploaded.

Hello All,
I´ve just uploaded the two new Gotha G.V variants with Boxtails, or "Kastensteuerung", as the Germans called them, the G.Va with its twin-wheeled nose-gear, and the G.Vb. with its "Stossfahrgestell" or shock landing gear, i.e. twin wheels mounted infront of the regular landing gear.

The two models will be available at the Warbirds library as soon as they are approved.

Gotha G.Va: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...d=124&id=25711

Gotha G.Vb: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforum...d=124&id=25712

I hope you enjoy them, and do let me know if there´s anything amiss!
Cheers,
Aleatorylamp
 

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G.V updated/upgraded with bomb aimer´s panel.

Hello folks,

The G.V uploaded a few days ago has now also been given a bomb aimer´s panel.
This one has a dark circle/frame around it because the sight was mounted under the nose,
beneath the front gunner/commander/navigator/bomber.

It seems he was the one with most jobs!

Enjoy!
Aleatorylamp
 

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The one with the most jobs..

As long as he had a pay grade to match!

The bombsight is very user-friendly. Great work.:applause:
 
Hello Ravenna,
I bet he did!
I´m glad it´s user friendly. On the explanatory screenshots it could perhaps look a bit more complicated than it really is.

On the G.V and G.Va, at lower heights, the bomb run has to be done at 90% throttle, otherwise it´s too fast and you´ll
overshoot the mark.

I love the vintage autopilot! I was looking to see if I could find the gauge (AP1.gau) anywhere, but it seems it´s no longer
available. It was lucky Smilo still had a copy. It is very simple, and you can´t program it for climbing to a certain height,
but it is nevertheless extremely handy: You can do altitude + heading hold, or altidude + level hold, or heading + speed hold,
which could possibly be useful for climbs if properly trimmed, but of course the plane would have to be levelled out by manually
clicking the altitude hold switch, which then overrides the speed hold switch.

Now, it would be correct to have a bomb aimer´s panel on the G.IV´s too, for the Goerz bombsight. The thing is, this one
would really have to have a scale going up to 5100 metres (16700 ft), including a crosshairs for 4900 m (16000 ft), which
were the max. and min. heights of the first G.IV daylight raids.

The existing one only goes up to 4100 m (13400 ft), the height of the second G.IV raids, where G.V´s were also included in.

I´ll see if it stays accurate if I slant the view point a bit more verticallly (now it´s at 61 degrees) to make space for another
1000 m (3000 + ft) height at the bottom.

Cheers,
Aleatorylamp
 
Hello zswobbie1,

Thanks for your good words!

Regarding your question about using the models in FS2004, I´m afraid the answer is disappointing.
After CFS2, Microsoft Flight Simulators discontinued support for Abacus Aircraft Animator animations,
although the basic Abacus Aircraft Factory 99 model will actually work in FS2004.

Modifying a model in AF99 for FS2004 would be simple, but pointless, and I doubt there could be any
interest for such models. No animations: Propellers are either stopped or transparent discs.
Flaps, Spoilers and Langing Gear are only in or out. Ailerons, Rudders and Elevators don´t move.
Thus, CFS2 and FS2002, apart from FS98 and CFS1, seem to be the only simulators for AF99 models.

Cheers,
Aleatorylamp
 
Thanks for your quick response.
Such a pity, I really enjoy the older & 'different' aircraft. In fact, I have several unique FS2004 installs, including Golden Wings, a Vintage install, & a WWI install (I also have 3 other themed installs as well), where the Gotha's could have fitted in perfectly.

Many thanks again.

Regards,
Robin
(Cape Town, South Africa)
 
Thank you again! I have always likes the Gotha G.V series ever since I spent many 100's of hours building and "accurizing" the old Aurora 1/48 plastic model kit all those years ago. In retrospect, my time might have been better spent scratch building one.
 
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