New LOD 7 Mesh by Rhumbaflappy!

[kelticheart]

......This mesh is fantastic! It really improves things, and looks just about as good as the SRTM mesh from simviation....

First of all many thanks to Rhumbaflappy for this great new effort at improving CFS2!!!

​

Am I understanding correctly that Rhumba's mesh can be used together with SRTM mesh (or FS2002 world mesh, as they call it) from simviation?

I have been using SRTM for a while now, and the elevation changes from the stock mesh is quite dramatic but it impacts the framerate negatively as well.

Now, how the two mesh sets together will impact framerate?

I haven't checked the Pacific yet, as I am not done downloading all the LOD7 files yet. I just installed the new dem4km file, all the LOD5 files and deactivated all other addon mesh. I only have Rhumba's files working,
I then took a test flight in Southern England over the Hawkinge-Dover area.

I am pleased to report that there's no need for flattening switches around Hawkinge aerodrome anymore, but I
noticed immediately the high cliffs overlooking the Channel produced by SRTM mesh are gone. I have never had the pleasure to visit England, but all the pictures I have seen of the South Eastern English coastline show very high cliffs ovelooking the sea.

Assuming Rhumba's files are supposed to correct all CFS2 mesh errors, does this mean SRTM mesh is incorrect as well or should I wait to get the entire LOD7 set before seeing the English Channel high cliffs back again?

Cheers!
KH :ernae:

 

[Jean Bomber]

First of all many thanks to Rhumbaflappy for this great new effort at improving CFS2!!!

​

Am I understanding correctly that Rhumba's mesh can be used together with SRTM mesh (or FS2002 world mesh, as they call it) from simviation?
.......

from simviation?.......Burn them, they are toxic :toilet:

The best never made for cfs2 are these news :friday:


Thanks Rhumba

JP

 

[sc7500]

Thank You, RF !

This should satisfy even MY need for detailed ground scenery !

I have one question, tho ~ and it's probably just due to advanced CRAFT on my part...

What Landclass is recommended to make this a total immersion package ? Or will the stock CFS2 textures be adequate ??

TIA
SC

 

[Ravenna]

I don't think anyone should try to pick and choose which areas to use... it's an integrated world set. dem4km, the LOD5 mesh and the LOD7 mesh should all be used, It's about 1.2 Gb total disk space, and can be used for CFS2, FS2002 and FS2004 ( I think... ). The visual results will be worth it.

If you have space to download all 18 files, then yolu have space to use them unzipped... the zipping only saves about 5% file space, as the BGLs are already compressed.


Dick

Rhumba,
Just so I can be confident I have all of this right: Are you saying that it is preferable to install all of your LOD5 and LOD7 files in each CFS2 installation on my HD? In my case that would be 1.2 Gb x 5! Do you know what would happen if one added dem4km and the LOD7 files for a specific theatre of operations as shown on your map?
Many many thanks for all your hard work and for sharing your expertise.

 

[Rami]

This is awesome work. Thanks, Rhumbaflappy! :ernae:

 

[rhumbaflappy]

Rhumba,
Just so I can be confident I have all of this right: Are you saying that it is preferable to install all of your LOD5 and LOD7 files in each CFS2 installation on my HD? In my case that would be 1.2 Gb x 5! Do you know what would happen if one added dem4km and the LOD7 files for a specific theatre of operations as shown on your map?

You can use the same scenery folder in 100 different installations. In your case, one scenery folder 5 different times. In fact, I'm currently using the same LOD7 scenery folder for CFS2, FS2002, FS2004, and now FSX. One folder, used multiple times for different 4 sims. I haven't tried it with FS2000... yet.

I did recommend placing the LOD5 mesh in the default folder to replace what's there in the '/scenerydb/world' , plus add what should have been there. That's a cost of about 70 Mb additonal space for each CFS2 installation. I don't think that's too much.

I agree with Jean as far as ditching the simviation mesh... it's not good. Too many errors and huge gaps. A case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. It can degrade the sim's mesh quality.

Here's my advice: use the whole LOD5 and LOD7 mesh sets and get rid of all other mesh. Within a few weeks I'll also have an LOD9 mesh plus watermasking for all the default areas of the sim. That would be 'pacxxxm.bgl' files, plus hopefully the default detailed shorelines, streams, etc...

Then we'll be able to completely replace the '/scenerydb/world' folder with a much more accurate view of the world.

With the LOD 9 mesh, I don't think you'll find a better set for CFS2, payware or freeware. Anything over LOD9 would just be wasted on a combat sim, and might even be a waste for FS2004. Some people want to see every bump and pothole in the world, just like some guys like to see rivets on the planes. But at 200 mph with a zero on your tail, rivets don't mean much. Besides, above LOD9 would require SRTM 1 arc second DEM data not available except for some areas of North America.

Dick

 

[Pen32Win]

Last night I worked with the PNG area and found that if you deactivate pnga19.bgl and pngb9.bgl (just add .orig to the file name) it will allow Rhumba's LOD 7 to fill in the bad spots of Western PNG (West of Alexishafen) and you'll still have the LOD9 for the Eastern Portion as well as New Britain/Rabaul.

It really looks really good around the Wewak/But Airdromes.
It seems to be a good mix. That is until his new LOD9 and Land/Water Class is completed along with the shore flattens.

Thanks Again Rhumba!:ernae:

 

[Jean Bomber]

...... Within a few weeks I'll also have an LOD9 mesh plus watermasking for all the default areas of the sim. That would be 'pacxxxm.bgl' files, plus hopefully the default detailed shorelines, streams, etc...

Then we'll be able to completely replace the '/scenerydb/world' folder with a much more accurate view of the world.
....
Dick

Hi Dick ,
You 'll completly refresh this(se) game(s) ,that you're doing will completly change our world and that surely will need new upgrades of many existing sceneries ,and give idea for some future news.Really great :friday:,a must have ,the reference mesh standard.

Ravenna ,
about your five installs the easymultiinstall.zip could solve your hd space issue, I admit that the read me is not "easy" but ...correctly installed all work fine,even the MB. it could be easy to upgrad it for more TO and to work on some others files and folders in the game with the knowlendge and all the new stuffs that we have today for this sim.

JP

 

[Jagdflieger]

Wow! That LOD 9 mesh sounds like it'll make this old girl look like she's got make-up, rouge and lipstick on, world wide.

 

[Smashing Time]

I don't see any difference between the defaut (first pix) and the LOD7 (second pix). It is loaded as instructed. ???

 

[Morton]

When this has settled, maybe we can expect a revision of your excellent Euro Install guide Rami?

Morton

 

[bearcat241]

I don't see any difference between the defaut (first pix) and the LOD7 (second pix). It is loaded as instructed. ???

Hmmm....Smash, your instruments and target displays in those pics are almost identical...only a 22 secs or so between the shots according to your clock, and your heading and altitude are nearly the same in both, not to mention that your target pointer cones also have the same bearing. Where did you find the opportunity to unload the QC session with the default mesh, reload the sim, activate the new mesh, exit the sim and reload the the sim again with the same QC session???? Maybe your scenery activation technique is in need of a little tune-up.

Morton, the only major change i can see necessary in the tut would be to replace instructions for adding Josiah Haut's mesh with instructions for Rhumba's Dem7 package.

Check out Lasanga PNG...loaded with Rhumba's mesh and coastal flattens active:

 

[Wulf190]

First of all many thanks to Rhumbaflappy for this great new effort at improving CFS2!!!

​

Am I understanding correctly that Rhumba's mesh can be used together with SRTM mesh (or FS2002 world mesh, as they call it) from simviation?

I have been using SRTM for a while now, and the elevation changes from the stock mesh is quite dramatic but it impacts the framerate negatively as well.

Now, how the two mesh sets together will impact framerate?

I haven't checked the Pacific yet, as I am not done downloading all the LOD7 files yet. I just installed the new dem4km file, all the LOD5 files and deactivated all other addon mesh. I only have Rhumba's files working,
I then took a test flight in Southern England over the Hawkinge-Dover area.

I am pleased to report that there's no need for flattening switches around Hawkinge aerodrome anymore, but I
noticed immediately the high cliffs overlooking the Channel produced by SRTM mesh are gone. I have never had the pleasure to visit England, but all the pictures I have seen of the South Eastern English coastline show very high cliffs ovelooking the sea.

Assuming Rhumba's files are supposed to correct all CFS2 mesh errors, does this mean SRTM mesh is incorrect as well or should I wait to get the entire LOD7 set before seeing the English Channel high cliffs back again?

Cheers!
KH :ernae:

I haven't noticed any big impact at all on frame rate, but then again I'm running a 3.0GHZ C2D with a 8800GTS 512, and 4GB of PC8500 memory so I'm not the best guy to ask:caked:...

 

[Wulf190]

I agree with Jean as far as ditching the simviation mesh... it's not good. Too many errors and huge gaps. A case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. It can degrade the sim's mesh quality.


Dick

I'll do that. I'll admit, for free mesh covering all the world the simviation mesh works well, but if Rhumba is making LOD9 mesh that will cover the whole world too, well its time to trade up on the simviation mesh. :woot:

 

[rhumbaflappy]

Just a few pics to show the differences between LOD 5, LOD7, LOD9.

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Note the FPS drop... that's why LOD9 may not be good for everyone's computer, and will limit combat... adding flattens would make this much worse.

Dick

 

[AGAS 5]

Thanks dick, that's a great comparison between the different LODs .... pictures say a thousand words.....


mind you..... 500 FR..... what tha !!! :Banane08:


Pete

 

[kelticheart]

You can use the same scenery folder in 100 different installations. In your case, one scenery folder 5 different times. In fact, I'm currently using the same LOD7 scenery folder for CFS2, FS2002, FS2004, and now FSX. One folder, used multiple times for different 4 sims. I haven't tried it with FS2000... yet.

I did recommend placing the LOD5 mesh in the default folder to replace what's there in the '/scenerydb/world' , plus add what should have been there. That's a cost of about 70 Mb additonal space for each CFS2 installation. I don't think that's too much.

I agree with Jean as far as ditching the simviation mesh... it's not good. Too many errors and huge gaps. A case of a little knowledge being a dangerous thing. It can degrade the sim's mesh quality.

Here's my advice: use the whole LOD5 and LOD7 mesh sets and get rid of all other mesh. .....

ROGER WILCO RHUMBA!

I'll be patiently downloading all the LOD7 files and wait until I have all of them installed before reporting anything else.

And thank you very much for your great patience in taking all of us by our hands and explain step by step what should or shouldn't be done!

To Bearcat:

HOLY MESH, BEARCAT! Your screenshots are simply wonderful!! Are you using Pactex2 textures? Yours seem a tad darker than both Pactex sets.

Cheers!
KH :ernae:

 

[bearcat241]

LOL...no Stef, its a set friom Stiz's PTO textures. After so many years on it, i got bored with Pactex and needed a little "change of scenery".

 

[kelticheart]

LOL...no Stef, its a set friom Stiz's PTO textures. After so many years on it, i got bored with Pactex and needed a little "change of scenery".

Thanks Bearcat, is the water texture from Stiz's PTO also?

Cheers!
KH :ernae:

 

[bearcat241]

Uhmm....i'm not sure but i think its pactex water...the one with wave caps or something. But its a temp setup, because i want to reinstall a Pacific blues/pactex coastal combo in the near term.