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New look over at Avsim

Hi,

Good news:
I finally managed to get activated manually (still dunno why the "linked activation" didn't work for me...).

First library upload (just another German Phantom) is already proceeded. Uploading procedure basically is the same, with one big advantage over the former one:
Multiple screenshots now get uploaded at once! Very nice feature.
And there's no need for a 150pix thumbnail image any more: Just choose one of your screenies as "primary" to get shown as preview.

Cheers,
Markus.
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Great :salute:
Now my little problem will be to find again your upload in few months with the bad new search system of the Avsim library :)
 
I got in this morning. I had forgotten my password, but once I logged into the main site and later in the forum, there were no problems.

Yeah, the site is very "busy". Their file search doesn't seem to work well when you try to looking up using two keywords like 'Eckart" and "Stearman." I got all kinds of non-relreated results, and it didn't seem to filter specific to FS 2004.

Hope they do some tweaking to improve it.

--WH
 
I like chairs and enjoyed the 1990s, so that's those two out of the way.

The new look Avsim seems OK - just so long as those hacker nitwits (Why?!?) don't go & mess it all up. In the end it's ease of download that matters from such sites. The fact that so much wonderful stuff in our hobby is FREE (after the initial outlay) surely means that we only have reason to be most grateful and wish all the luck in the world to the good folk at Avsim and similar websites? All power to them! :salute:
 
Kiwikat said:
I'm sure glad you guys aren't in charge of technology or the internets. :icon_lol::173go1:
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i wish i was, i'd oblitorate twitbook for starters! And rename ANYTHING that has a sodding "i" in front of it!!!!! :icon_lol:


As for the asim site, some change is good, but there is such a thing as a bad website ... what a\/sim should ha\/e done is taken the old layout and just jazzed things up a bit, not totally redisgned and squased it all into a bloglike format, it just doesnt work!

btw .. \/ stands for the letter it looks like, that paticular key on my keyboard decided to die :frown:
 
stiz said:
btw .. \/ stands for the letter it looks like, that paticular key on my keyboard decided to die :frown:
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Is your keyboard from the 1990's?

I'm far from being a luddite (I've done a bit of web design myself, although nothing this complex), but I'm also far from being convinced by the new site layout!

Leaving aside the fact that it took me a good 15 minutes to login (I assume the new steps are for improved security) I feel the layout is far from intuitive & they've still not fixed some things that used to annoy me about the old site; for example, going into the file library, you still don't have the option to move back to the main sites home page - unless I've missed it, which reinforces my comment about "intuitive".

And if you've gone to all the trouble of creating a new look and a (rather nice) graphic for your home page, why do you not then carry that over to the file library or the forums. Hopefully it will settle down, but I'm not overly impressed thus far.
 
Kiwikat said:
I like it. They really needed to change from their old design. It looked like it was from the 90's. :wavey:
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Who CARES what era it "looked like" it was from. It was at least functional and readable.

The "new" main page is so cluttered and unstructured that it is useless, as far as I'm concerned.

What is wrong with web page designers these days.? They seem to favor light colors with
little contrast, small fonts that are difficult to read if you do not have 20/20 eyesight and
pages stuffed with unnecessary "bells & whistles".

I shudder every time a site or forum that I regularly visit announces that they will be
upgrading the software.

The old, functional, readable Avsim main page had easily scanned lists of the new library entries.
That's why I went there before continuing on to the forums. That is no longer the case. It appears
that you now have to wade through all the links to find one that will take you to the latest library
additions. It seems that the library entry point is now just another "stop here before proceeding to
what you are really after" point.

Sorry Avsim. Your new site "look" fails, big time!

Paul
 
Milton Shupe said:
Just checked it all out. Looks like a great start to me. The file library is okay as well although not quite as feature rich; still a nice start. Give them time; they will get there. :applause:
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Milton, the new File Library actually has more features, albeit they aren't all gathered up in one easy to find spot...

For example, it's not at all obvious that one must click the "VIEW" button to access the "Zipdive" button...

As Tom mentioned above, I love the new automatic "Forum Post" redirect when clicking the "Support" button, and the corollary function from the "Forum Post" back to the File Listing/Download page.

This feature alone should make it easier for authors to provide "support" for their uploaded files, providing users can be convinced to use it! :ernae:
 
The change is nice but I would have chosen a different style. As kiwikat said, TMI in too little space.

And computers were made to do things faster.
 
I learned a long time ago not to immediately judge people, or things like web sites.

Especially if my cheese has been moved.

Once I find my cheese, I may find that I like where it its better.
 
I'm not a fan of the new library system. The search function is about the same or has regressed a little. It should (in my opinion) go to advanced search as default. I'm not a fan of quick searches.

Also, it would be really nice to click on a file to learn more about it and have it open in a different window or tab.

It does look nice though. Although I haven't spent much time in other areas on the site.
 
Railrunner130 said:
The search function is about the same or has regressed a little. It should (in my opinion) go to advanced search as default. I'm not a fan of quick searches.
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I think this is the biggest step backwards:
It seems like (currently?) there's no way to look for specific authors!

I maybe got blinded by all those bells & whistles, but I still haven't found an "advanced search"...

Cheers,
Markus.
 
The nnew Avsim library is a piece of crap and certainly wasn't designed by anyone
that actually wanted to USE it!

The "What's new" link is ludicrous! All the freaking files from all the library areas
are lumped together in one long, difficult to scan, list!

All I want to see are "FSX Original aircraft", "FSX Scenery" and possible "FSX Misc"
or "FSX Gauges".

You can't do that "at a glance" any longer.

Each library entry occupies more than twice the screen area that a single entry
used to occupy. What dimwit designed THAT layout, with the "View","Zikp Dive",
and "Download" buttons stacked vertically, thus increasing the amount of unused
"white space" for a given entry.

I can't believe that those in charge over at Avsim see this as an improvement!
The entire site now is a royal PITA to ATTEMPT to use.

Now you need three mlogins over there....one for the Forums, a different one
for the Library and yet a third should you want to post comments on articles
or reviews. Wow...that sure is "progress" in retrograde!

I can only hope that someone with more patience for using that ridiculous entity
than I have will post here with a description and a direct link to any useful files in
the Avsim library because that is the only way I'll know about them now :(

To reiterate, the New Avsim libary...no, the entire Avsim site...is now a piece of CRAP!

Paul
 
GypsyBaron said:
Now you need three mlogins over there....one for the Forums, a different one
for the Library and yet a third should you want to post comments on articles
or reviews. Wow...that sure is "progress" in retrograde!
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Paul, that is factually incorrect. You need only one login for "normal use" of the forums and library.

The exception is a separate login for commenting on articles or reviews, which quite frankly not that many people actually do to begin with. I understand that there are plans to remove that separate login requirement once they've managed to tune up the other issues.
 
Wild Bill Kelso said:
I think this is the biggest step backwards:
It seems like (currently?) there's no way to look for specific authors!

I maybe got blinded by all those bells & whistles, but I still haven't found an "advanced search"...

Cheers,
Markus.
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On the first opening screen after clicking on File Library:

Search the Library: Advanced [>..............................................]

If you click after the > and enter keyword(s) you enter the "Quick Search" function.
If you click on Advanced you will open up the "Advanced Search" dialog.

There are the expected empty search boxes for options, including one for Author.

Advanced Search
<FORM method=post action=runsearch.php?type=advq>Download ID
<INPUT id=dlid class=textboxstyle name=dlid>
File Name
<INPUT id=fname class=textboxstyle name=fname>
Author
<INPUT id=author class=textboxstyle name=author>
Name and/or Description
<INPUT id=name class=textboxstyle name=name>
Cateogry
<INPUT id=name class=textboxstyle name=name>
</FORM>
 
What good is change just for the sake of change.
The "new" design is a disaster.
BUT, as Tom Allensworth said in AVSIM forums, "Apologize? For what? Trying to answer the demands of users to provide a more "modern" site? No way in hell. If you read a post I made earlier, you would have found that we are working to resolve the issues - or maybe you did and you are just ignoring it. But, It will be a cold day in hell when any of the 40+ volunteers here apologize to you for trying to bring the site up to date at our user's request. You don't like that? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."
Ignoring the desires of your users, don't you think?

aris2747

 
aris2747 said:
Ignoring the desires of your users, don't you think?
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If AVSIM were a pay-for-use website, that might have some relevance.

As long as it remains a "free and volunteer operated" website though, it remains pretty much a case of "take it or leave it..."

To be perfectly frank, most of the anti-change comments there remind me of someone complaining about free meals at a soup kitchen...
 
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