New version of Bookmark SAAB 35 Draken released

[menef]

It'd be good if Tom could be persuaded to TacPack this one.

I've been trying to get him to do a Viggen for years.....

Dave

Actually the Viggen is a big and beautiful beast missing from our FSX, I fully agree with you !!!

 

[DaveQ]

Meanwhile back in Austria......

Still work to do on the stencils but otherwise looks OK. Very many thanks go to JensOLe for translating stencils and to Henk Schuitemaker (hschuit) who has done us new models and spec files for this beautiful old girl (reminds me of the wife....!). We will publish when complete and with permissions.

DaveQ

 

[huub vink]

Looks great guys, thanks for all the efforts you are putting in this special model.

Cheers,
Huub

 

[menef]

Great works. I've noticed that Austrian and Swedish Draken in gray scheme are very polished, like these :

 

[hschuit]

Great works. I've noticed that Austrian and Swedish Draken in gray scheme are very polished, like these :

The images are from a special jet, the Swedish Historic Flight J35J Draken serial 35556 when it was displayed at airshows. Drakens in operational use were not polished like this one.

 

[menef]

The images are from a special jet, the Swedish Historic Flight J35J Draken serial 35556 when it was displayed at airshows. Drakens in operational use were not polished like this one.

Ok, I didn't know it...

 

[thunder100]

The images are from a special jet, the Swedish Historic Flight J35J Draken serial 35556 when it was displayed at airshows. Drakens in operational use were not polished like this one.

Even the Ostarrichi Draken were not polished

( 1996 celebration of 1000 years Austria )

Roland

 

[JensOle]

It would be sort of dumb to have an aircraft which had got a new grey low vis air superiority scheme to be polished as it would reflect light much better. But for a warbird I suspect it would be a lot easier to keep clean.

A question for the crowd about the J35F:
If I understand correctly so was the intake pylon stations not standard on the F-series, but was retrofitted as part of the J-update program. The forward pylon also start to show up on Finish 35S and J35FS models at around the same time. Does this mean the pylon actually was a feature build into the F, but not used in service before on the J?

 

[scotth6]

Great work guys. There are some excellent screenies and photos here.

Cheers,

 

[menef]

It would be sort of dumb to have an aircraft which had got a new grey low vis air superiority scheme to be polished as it would reflect light much better. But for a warbird I suspect it would be a lot easier to keep clean.

This is obvious, the fact is that many years ago I saw a real Austrian Draken at Ghedi AB (Italy) and I remember very well the semigloss skin, it was an operational bird not polished for an airshow.
IMHO line-aircraft were both matt and semigloss. ( except airshow-prepared Aircraft). Anyway thank you for the work you are doing !!!

 

[dhazelgrove]

This will be well worth waiting for.

Dave

 

[JensOle]

Menef, most if not all metal have a certain level of shine when viewed in the correct angle with the light source, even when painted in matt paint. I don't know the Austrian Drakens enough to say, but generally I don't think many operational fighter aircraft have a semi gloss paint.

Finnish J35FS Drakens

 

[JensOle]

 

[Jafo]

Even if someone managed to apply a 'true' matt paint to a plane it wouldn't take too much airtime before it was no longer matt.
Airflow and weather would see to that soon enough...

 

[dhazelgrove]

It's nice to see some Danish paints on the Draken.
People tend to overlook them.

Dave

 

[kl791]

Couldn't agree more I did my military service in the Squadron 729 of the Royal Danish Air Force at the time when it was operating the Draken.
Henrik

 

[DaveQ]

It's nice to see some Danish paints on the Draken.
People tend to overlook them.

Dave

Having worked on the BM Draken for nearly 2 weeks now with Jens-Ole and Henk, I've come to understand that there were more variations of the aircraft both in the Swedish and export versions than I ever thought, as well as variations in armaments and load-outs. Unlike other export customers, the Danish requirement was for tactical strike and reconnaissance so it was substantially different externally as well as internally. Trying to model each one would be a considerable piece of work so Henk has stuck to limited variations of Thomas Nillson's original definitive Swedish -J model. If we can get Thomas's permission we intend to upload what we can. But paints now exist for all the export models although mine (Austrian and, yes, Danish) are still WIP's. Here's my Danish one. Some way to go with further detail research and a semi-gloss spec file still to do. This is 351018, A-35XD A-018 from Esk. 725 before a recce nose was installed.

DaveQ

 

[menef]

I' m very happy to see this project going forward! Thank you Jens,
Dave and all people involved. About the skins look I think that your
experience as talented painters will do the best. For sure the BM
Draken after your work will be far better that now. Bye

 

[npk3]

Finnish Air Force paintings

Hi!
Are these the Finnish Air Force paintings
yet available for download somewhere?

Menef, most if not all metal have a certain level of shine when viewed in the correct angle with the light source, even when painted in matt paint. I don't know the Austrian Drakens enough to say, but generally I don't think many operational fighter aircraft have a semi gloss paint.

Finnish J35FS Drakens

 

[StormILM]

Wow, old thread revival! I was hoping for news from Thomas regarding a fix to the fuel system on the Draken (which would fix the inverted/roll fuel starvation issue) but the site has been offline for some time now. I wish I knew how to fix the issue but oh well, hopefully one day it will get fixed.