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NEWS!! From CarenadoPA-46 Malibu Photos Direct from Carenado!

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NEWS!! From CarenadoPA-46 Malibu Photos Direct from Carenado!

New Photos of the PA-46 from Carenado Facebook page

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They had to mount that turbine so far forward for CG purposes with apparently little thought for how the plane would look - UGLY.
 
Its a great aircraft. Had a chance to fly one (only as P2) when working for a piper distributor - amazing performance.
 
The Carenado model is beautiful, but as for the aircraft itself, I'd say it falls on the ugly side.
 
There is no competition for this aircraft. It's the smallest turbine out there, 4-6 place, that I know of. Too cool!
 
There is no competition for this aircraft. It's the smallest turbine out there, 4-6 place, that I know of. Too cool!
Dont forget about TBM Socata. Near same type. I had very good free French model for FS9 too.

Socata:
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Malibu:
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:wiggle:
Btw. Model of Malibu looks like finished. VC & outside. This week ?
 
People may find it interesting to compare the performance and cost per hour of the Piper, PC-12 and Socata. I know the one I would own IRL if I had the money.;)
 
There is no competition for this aircraft. It's the smallest turbine out there, 4-6 place, that I know of. Too cool!

Also, don't forget the Epic LT/Dynasty. It's the best looking of the bunch. Too bad they're out of business. But you can still fly Lionheart's, if you want. Bill did a great job on it and there's lots of repaints.

Joe
 
When looking at cost comparisons with aircraft in this category, as with business jets but unlike pricing a car or vacation cost, the up front cost is often the least relevant consideration. The acquisition cost gets depreciated over the life of the "asset" and there is a residual value you get back when you sell it. Much sought after aircraft will depreciate more slowly and allow you get more of your bait back on re-sale vs. over abundant aircraft or those with a bad rep or image. The operating costs are the real focus, e.g. depreciation plus fuel, hangar, insurance, pilot salary, scheduled maintenance, etc. on a per hour/monthly/yearly running cost basis. Short hand fully loaded costs for chartered business jets run about $3,500 + per hour. Costing ownership of a C172 or PA 28 shared with two friends can and should be analyzed on the same basis and of course is a fraction of the $3,500 figure.

Then comes the more subjective part - what unique or comparably valuable or useful features does a plane have vs its competitors. My dream GA owner-pilot plane probably would probably be a Super King Air B200 or a Pilatus PC-12. Notably, cost of fuel for 2 x PT6 engines, not to mention major/hot section overhaul, not surpisingly doubles many of the cost variable for the King Air vs the PC-12 yet they have similar performance and cabin space. Counter that with the age old debate about twin vs single engine failure on takeoff scenarios. Interestingly, another of my dream plane contenders, the Twin Turbo Commander 1000 (with -T mod Garrett engines) boasts better fuel per hour consumption cost than all of the single engine PT6 planes, with the exception only of the Meridian.

http://www.twincommander.com/performance.html
 
It looks like the Malibu is getting very close to release. The product page is up, but it doesn't have a link to it yet on the main site. Plus it still says $10,000...

By the sound of their facebook they're probably releasing tonight or tomorrow. :jump:
 
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