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North American Sabreliner
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MustangL2W
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Please be FSX, Please be FSX, Please be FSX
I'm curious how much work is involved to convert an existing project from "Prepar3D" over to "FSX".
I could be mistaken but it didn't seem to take Dino very long at all to complete his Skyhawk conversion.
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Good question, one that I don't think anyone has ever actually answered. My guess is that it's mostly a case of removing functions, coding and texturing conventions that are not compatible with FSX. That makes the process sound relatively simple but I'm sure it's not and the more complex the systems are, the more P3D'ish functions/animations have been incorporate. . .plus the texturing convention I mentioned (PBR is being used more and more and not compatible with FSX) and the simple becomes very time consuming and tedious. So it's not a matter of running it through MCX and changing a few things. . .at least from someone on the outside taking a guess that's how I imagine it.
It will be a coding issue that may halt the downgrade to 32bit as 64bit has so much more to offer in options than 32bit
Pbr textures wont effect or prevent model from loading in fsx, you may need to rename files and you will only get flat non gloss textures opposed to shat is seen in 64bit, but you can always create an alpha channel yourself. This is proven in recent carenado releases with people using pbr based textures in 32bit
Depending on how much advanced coding they put in it will be the determining factor
Pbr textures wont effect or prevent model from loading in fsx, you may need to rename files and you will only get flat non gloss textures opposed to shat is seen in 64bit, but you can always create an alpha channel yourself. This is proven in recent carenado releases with people using pbr based textures in 32bit
Depending on how much advanced coding they put in it will be the determining factor
fsafranek
SOH-CM-2024
From their facebook page yesterday:
Q "sabreliner is still in development?"
A "oh yes, most certainly is still in development.Just waiting ts turn, like everything else."
In response to one of the questions in their January 2019 announcement they did say both FSX and P3D.
bazzar
Charter Member 2018
The Sabreliner will be completed and released for P3DV4.5+ first. If results are good and there is enough data to suggest it, we will then produce an FSX version. With the new sim around the corner, the work involved in producing for FSX from here on in is a distinct gamble. It is not a simple "conversion", it requires a separate model with non-PBR materials and textures etc. Also the definition in the 3D model has to be lower. I'm sorry if this will disappoint but we have to be practical now that the new sim is on the horizon.
fsafranek
SOH-CM-2024
All very true. Thanks for even considering the backward compatibility. With a new sim on the horizon building backwards is a gamble.
tgycgijoes
Members +
Freeware vs Payware
It is understandable that AH is a business not a freeware developer so they have to look at the big picture and the bottom line despite how disappointed us "ol' fogeys" with FSX are LOL! Keep up the good work and upgrade the FSX stuff when you can for us who supported you for so long in the past; loved the B17 and other aircraft-- thank you for all the work there.
It is understandable that AH is a business not a freeware developer so they have to look at the big picture and the bottom line despite how disappointed us "ol' fogeys" with FSX are LOL! Keep up the good work and upgrade the FSX stuff when you can for us who supported you for so long in the past; loved the B17 and other aircraft-- thank you for all the work there.
pilto von pilto
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It is understandable that AH is a business not a freeware developer so they have to look at the big picture and the bottom line despite how disappointed us "ol' fogeys" with FSX are LOL! Keep up the good work and upgrade the FSX stuff when you can for us who supported you for so long in the past; loved the B17 and other aircraft-- thank you for all the work there.
Oh we havent forgotten FSX. We've got something else planned for FSX. And yes the planned idea will work in P3d but it is definitely FSX specific. We're working on it in our free time... ( wait what you have free time ? Shouldnt you be either working or watching the allblacks on tv ? I see watching/supporting the allblacks as a job and perfectly good use of time ! ) . We'll be making some noise sometime once it is closer than the beery-gunna stage.
We're not old fogeys our computers might be but you and I arent old fogeys. ( now where did I put my quilted rug and my pipe ? )
Ah actually had a great range of unique freeware for FS2004, that has sadly disappeared.
We had a flying pumpkin, a remotored BF109 with a Spitfire engine and a couple of others,including a BOB formation flight with a Spitfire, Hurricane and a BF109.. Good times!
We had a flying pumpkin, a remotored BF109 with a Spitfire engine and a couple of others,including a BOB formation flight with a Spitfire, Hurricane and a BF109.. Good times!
vonstroheim
Charter Member
Tthe P3Dv4 Aeroplane Heaven SABRELINER looks so good...
vonstroheim
Charter Member
Yes please!
vonstroheim
Charter Member
I like bizjets... that's why I'd love to see the (now freeware) Aeroplane Heaven Sabreliner in FSX one day...
In the meantime, here's (again) Jim Goldman's Lockheed Jetstar II:
Carenado's Falcon 50:
In the meantime, here's (again) Jim Goldman's Lockheed Jetstar II:
Carenado's Falcon 50:
vonstroheim
Charter Member
Carenado's D18S:
Arild Elverum and Thomas Roehl's Falcon 20 with alternate VC:
Arild Elverum and Thomas Roehl's Falcon 20 with alternate VC:
vonstroheim
Charter Member
Some more AH Sabreliner...
I'd love to get the AH Sabreliner in FSX.
Although it's a free download from ORBX, I tried to download the P3Dv4 Sabreliner, but because I don't have P3D installed, I wasn't able to get it into my ORBX account FSX files.
I was hoping to see if it would work in FSX as is, or alias the VC to something similar.
We can but dream.
Pete
Although it's a free download from ORBX, I tried to download the P3Dv4 Sabreliner, but because I don't have P3D installed, I wasn't able to get it into my ORBX account FSX files.
I was hoping to see if it would work in FSX as is, or alias the VC to something similar.
We can but dream.
Pete
Mike71
SOH-CM-2025
I have the P3D4 version and wanted to do some NAVY T-39 repaints. After some research I got interested in the fact that the Navy bought some used civilian Sabre 40 models and had them converted and apparently maintained as a "turn key" operation in the Training Command and logistics support squadrons. Thes were CT-39E and T-39N models.
The Sabre 40 initially looked exactly like the The original T-39 A/B/D with two windows, but later ones had three windows on each side, the center ones also encompassing an escape hatch.
In my repaint effort, I dummied in a center (non-transparent) window, fixed some of the detail around the AH impressions of the front door, dumbed down some of the bump map depth, etc.
The CT-39Es changed their paint jobs at various times and there are few, poor pictures of them to work from. I used an add for a decal sheet for most of my general striping references.
This is still in work. I have to do th engines and wing markings, perhaps over the long weekend. This is difficult to repaint in many ways, but it is pretty close.