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Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.
Norway Terror Attacks
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Roger
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Henry,
Please read my post above and please submit your passionate beliefs to a political forum. Here at the SOH let's limit this thread to our sorrow for the victims and their families...or I will have to close this thread...which I really don't want to, ok!!!!!
Multi-culturalism isn't dead & it isn't a failed experiment - I'm a Londoner, possibly the most 'multi cultural' city in the world and it has been so for several hundred years; has it's hiccoughs but, on the whole, I like it!
But if you say it has failed, then you are letting this creature & all the other hate-filled individuals (from whichever part of the spectrum they come from) win; and for the sake of the people who dies at his hands, and at the hands of others, we can never let him win, it would be an insult to their memory. In London, on 8/7/2005, we picked ourselves up, brushed ourselves down, and got back on the tubes, ba.ck on the buses - by doing that the hate filled individuals who had killed so many the previous day were robbed of their victory
But if you say it has failed, then you are letting this creature & all the other hate-filled individuals (from whichever part of the spectrum they come from) win; and for the sake of the people who dies at his hands, and at the hands of others, we can never let him win, it would be an insult to their memory. In London, on 8/7/2005, we picked ourselves up, brushed ourselves down, and got back on the tubes, ba.ck on the buses - by doing that the hate filled individuals who had killed so many the previous day were robbed of their victory
Ralf Roggeveen
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Well said, Andy! :salute:
Interesting facts: In Europe just 8% of citizens give 'Islam' as their religion. We may presume that a very tiny minority of that faith group will ever be Islamist fundamentalists.
The nation with the greatest number of mosques: The United States.
In both Europe and the USA the right to practice whatever religion you choose, as long as it does not harm other people, is fundamental to our political and social systems. (Thanks to 18th century rationalists who probably didn't believe in any gods).
Being crazy is one thing. Being crazy and having a lot of guns & ammunition, quite another.
What seems most worrying about Breivik is that all his confused ramblings & misunderstanding of history are remarkably similar to those of one A. Hitler who, less than a century ago, managed to take over one of the most advanced & civilized countries in the world. The Breivik/Hitler perception then quickly became state policy. Nazi Germany was entirely geared towards racism; look what happened.
It is important that we all make sure that such things never, ever occur again, anywhere.
Interesting facts: In Europe just 8% of citizens give 'Islam' as their religion. We may presume that a very tiny minority of that faith group will ever be Islamist fundamentalists.
The nation with the greatest number of mosques: The United States.
In both Europe and the USA the right to practice whatever religion you choose, as long as it does not harm other people, is fundamental to our political and social systems. (Thanks to 18th century rationalists who probably didn't believe in any gods).
Being crazy is one thing. Being crazy and having a lot of guns & ammunition, quite another.
What seems most worrying about Breivik is that all his confused ramblings & misunderstanding of history are remarkably similar to those of one A. Hitler who, less than a century ago, managed to take over one of the most advanced & civilized countries in the world. The Breivik/Hitler perception then quickly became state policy. Nazi Germany was entirely geared towards racism; look what happened.
It is important that we all make sure that such things never, ever occur again, anywhere.
Maarten -
Charter Member 2016
Andy, Ralf,
Both of you well said. I fully, fully agree with your opinions.
BTW, the words mr Beck spoke (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler) leave me absolutely gutted.
Peace,
Maarten
Both of you well said. I fully, fully agree with your opinions.
BTW, the words mr Beck spoke (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/26/glenn-beck-norwegian-dead-hitler) leave me absolutely gutted.
Peace,
Maarten
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