One Day Challenge - P2

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RFields

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If anyone remembers their times / has the Duenna - please post just the leg times.

Thanks,

Reggie
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FSX
FSX Default Maule
EGPA-EGED - 00:10:35
EGED-EGEW - 00:08:05
EGEW-EGEP - 00:02:18
EGEP-EGEN - 00:10:39
EGEN-EGES - 00:05:14
EGES-EGER - 00:04:01
EGER-EGPA - 00:07:57
Total Flight Time - 00:48:49
 
Rules in case anyone didn't get them - note thought I encourage you to use real world time - that is no longer a requirement.
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While we are finalizing a good RTW practice event - here is something to keep you busy. You need to finish before Oct 8.

This is pretty simple - easily completed in less than 2 hours. You are not required to complete all the flights on the same day/ FS session - but if you find good weather - you might want to do them all.

An out and back trip from one airport - with six stops at short field airports - all of these airports actually have commercial service. This trip includes the world's shortest commercial flight - the flight distance which varies from about 8,000 feet to 1.7 miles based on weather and landing runways. The listed flight time is 2 minutes.

This flight plan combines two commercial routes and the total straight line distance is about 70 nm.

Duenna verification, Around the World Race realism and real world weather required. Choose your aircraft wisely - only one (1) aircraft is allowed for all seven legs. This might be a route where a helicopter could actually be competitive / win.

Total flight time is winning criteria.

You may enter more than one flight - but it must be in a second aircraft.

You must report crashes - 10 minute penalty for any crash - and refly the leg. Optionally - you may report abandoning the flight series, and start over - but the aircraft you used for the crash flight can no longer be used.

I mentioned short field - the longest runways of the six airports are less 1,850 feet long (FS2004 - 1,700 ft FSX) .

The route is - EGPA-EGED-EGEW-EGEP-EGEN-EGES-EGER-EGPA

EGPA-EGED - 15 nm
EGED-EGEW - 11 nm
EGEW-EGEP - 2 nm
EGEP-EGEN - 14 nm
EGEN-EGES - 8 nm
EGES-EGER - 6 nm
EGER-EGPA - 15 nm

Either FS2004 or FSX may be used - there is some minor variation between the airports between the version. You are strongly urged to check out the airports before making your official flight attempt.

FS2004 Default Airport Data

EGED - Eday - Rwy 18/36 - 1,620 ft x 98 ft grass / Rwy 7/25 - 1,072x59 asphalt -- field elevation 20 ft

EGEW - Westray - Rwy 13/31 - 1,659 ft x 59 grass / Rwy 9/27 - 1,590x59 asphalt / Rwy 1/19 - 1,188x59 -- field elevation 29 ft

EGEP - Papa Westray - Rwy 4/22 - 1,616 ft x 59 grass / Rwy 18/36 - 1,156x59 grass / Rwy 7/25 - 1,096x59 grass -- field elevation 91 ft

EGEN - North Ronaldsay - Rwy 10/28 - 1,837 ft x 40 grass / Rwy 14/32 - 1,234x40 - grass / Rwy 3/21 - 1,083x40 grass -- field elevation 40 ft

EGES - Sanday - Rwy 11/29 - 1,791 ft x 98 grass / Rwy 3/21 - 1,509x59 asphalt / Rwy 17/35 - 1,303x98 grass -- field elevation 66 ft

EGER - Stronsay - Rwy 2/20 - 1,686 ft x 59 asphalt -- field elevation 39 ft

EGPA - Kirkwall - Rwy 9/27 - 4,730 ft x 151 asphalt / Rwy - 6/24 3,852x151 asphalt / Rwy 15/33 - 2,201x59 asphalt -- field elevation 51 ft


FSX Default Airport Data

EGED - Eday - Rwy 18/36 - 1,695 ft x 98 ft grass / Rwy 7/25 - 1,528x59 asphalt -- field elevation 20 ft

EGEW - Westray - Rwy 9/27 - 1,590 FT x 59 asphalt / Rwy 13/31 - 1,379x59 grass / Rwy 1/19 - 1,188x59 -- field elevation 29 ft

EGEP - Papa Westray - Rwy 4/22 - 1,616 ft x 59 grass / Rwy 18/36 - 1,156x59 grass / Rwy 7/25 - 1,096x59 grass -- field elevation 91 ft

EGEN - North Ronaldsay - Rwy 10/28 - 1,605 ft x 59 asphalt / Rwy 3/21 - 1,1132x59 grass / Rwy 14/32 - 1,121x98 - grass -- field elevation 40 ft

EGES - Sanday - Rwy 3/21 - 1,509 ft x 59 asphalt / Rwy 11/29 - 1,394x98 grass / Rwy 17/35 - 1,303x98 grass -- field elevation 66 ft

EGER - Stronsay - Rwy 2/20 - 1,686 ft x 59 asphalt / Rwy 6/24 1,346x96 grass / Rwy 10/28 1,322x59 grass -- field elevation 39 ft

EGPA - Kirkwall - Rwy 9/27 - 4,727 ft x 151 asphalt / Rwy 15/33 - 2,201x59 / Rwy 6/24 closed -- field elevation 58 ft
 
Here's my txt files and the screen shot of the Excel spreadsheet I used.

[EDIT]: Flight times only:

1. EGPA-EGED 8:15
2. EGED-EGEW 6:24
3. EGEW-EGEP 1:33
4. EGEP-EGEN 7:57
5. EGEN-EGES 5:23
6. EGES-EGER 4:34
7. EGER-EGPA 8:47

Total 42.88
 
Don't bother with attachments yet while they are working on the database. I'll have info on how to get them available Saturday.
 
Gave it a whirl in the speed bug.

1. EGPA-EGED 4:37
2. EGED-EGEW 3:52
3. EGEW-EGEP 0:56
4. EGEP-EGEN 3:57
5. EGEN-EGES 2:54
6. EGES-EGER 2:10
7. EGER-EGPA 4:06
Total = 22:32
 
Giving a whirl in the completely illegal P-3 Orion....

Lotsa fun in the 28 knot winds.....

EGPA-EGED 4+26 baton time.

Stuff later: T.
 
EGED- EGEW Totally Illegal p-3 Orion

Baton time 3+22

Turns about like the Titanic.... But otherwise goes like the proverbial Australian Fruit Bat.
 
May wait for the winds to calm or change direction before the next leg, reaquires too big a pattern.

T.
 
Being night there now, the winds have calmed, much better!

EGEW-EGEP 1+00
EGEP-EGEN 3+28
EGEN-EGES 2+51
EGES-EGER 2+15
EGER-EGPA 3+42

I come up with (subject to error) a total of 21 +04 baton time.

As noted by conventional rules this is an illegal aircraft and was run only for comparison purposes. It accelerates well, has a good low alt speed and slows fairly well. The reverse thrust helps with the short fields. It does not manuver well if such manuvering is required. Some downwind takeoffs (full flaps) and dwnd landings were utilized.

The Russian PE-3 might work well as the dive brakes allow very rapid decceleration on short final. Be interesting to see how well the beercat works out. It accelerates very well!!

I expect that such an entry is not even slightly within the original specification that was in mind.

More later: T.
 
I'll try this in my true steed, the F4U5-N

First leg, EGPA-EGED 4+09 baton time.

A little improvement!

T.
 
EGED-EGEW F4U5N
3+32. A little slower as I lost some time having to manuver out of the wind to get the Duenna to drop the baton.
 
Phinished de Round in the Phabloulous Black Demon:


EGEP-EGEN 3+49
EGEN-EGES 2+33
EGES-EGER 2+16
EGER-EGPA 3+44

With these short legs min fuel and use of water injection markedly add to the acceleration. After I learned to turn off the ADI on final, and unlock the tailwheel on rollout, decelleration after touchdown was much better. Lost some seconds there!

T.
 
Total so far(subject to error)....

21+15

I think this could be beat (perhaps) with the Beercat. Certainly I could have beat the P-3 time easily if not for the aformentioned issue with leaving the water injection on and not unlockng the TW.

T.
 
My results in the Bearcat

EGPA-EGED - 15 nm 0:04:29
EGED-EGEW - 11 nm 0:03:57
EGEW-EGEP - 2 nm 0:02:10
EGEP-EGEN - 14 nm 0:04:44
EGEN-EGES - 8 nm 0:04:50
EGES-EGER - 6 nm 0:03:13
EGER-EGPA - 15 nm 0:04:43
0:28:06

2 Crashes +20 minutes = Total 48:06 D'oh!
 
Hey All,

Here are my times for each leg (EG omitted).

PA-ED 4:32
ED-EW 3:44
EW-EP 1:00
EP-EN 4:09
EN-ES 2:42
ES-ER 2:07
ER-PA 4:04

Total 22:18 baton time

Only had one mishap - collapsed nose gear landing at EGES as I landed a bit short and must have been too hard on the gear. No crash registered though.

What I learned:

1) Use the correct version of duenna! I started out using an old one instead of the new (2008) one that doesn't start timing you till you pass like 50kts. Makes a BIG difference!

2) I don't know my plane as well as I thought. At first I cut power 5 miles out and had to add power to get to the runway - then 4 and by the last leg 3 and even at 3 miles out I had to add power to get to the runway. I'm thinking 2 miles out might work. I know it cost me time - I'm guessing over a minute maybe two.

3) I don't know my plane as well as I thought - part 2. I don't know the relationship between overspeed and altitude (I flew at 1200 ft). First I stayed below the barber pole. Finally 35 kts over the barberpole and no overspeed - still don't know what the limit is. I know this cost me time as well.

4) The big Cheyenne 400LS is a good plane for this - reversing those twin Garrett turboprops really stops you well. I was stopping in under half of the landing strip distance most of the time while landing at over 100kts.

5) I would be really curious to see what an Epic LT would do. I assume it would stop you fast as well as maybe have a slightly higher max speed.

Good event - something I think we should practice. What if the RTW committee put in an RTW start or end event that did this for say 30 legs!

-Ed-
 
Good stuff, Ed! That time is up there with those war bird drivers! My DHC-6 trip took twice that long to complete!
 
Chasin' the Pipper in the Rocker

Nice Ed! I too needed some refreshers on the plane ( 3 legs before I remembered the Turbo Commander has spoilers:redf: ) but I was right up your tail...

Rob
 
Always a new scenario. I had never landed with WEP on before because of the length of the leg. It took 20 extra seconds to stop than with the P-3! Things worked out much better after I figured that out.

Good job guys! T.
 
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