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Open Letter To Developers

mike_cyul said:
I'm sure it could be written in a way that would not to detroy anyone's computer. How about just erase the 'Airplanes' folder?

Mike
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including a warning in the license agreement could help you avoid legal issues too.
"your honor...he clicked "I agree"...":monkies:
 
djscoo said:
including a warning in the license agreement could help you avoid legal issues too.
"your honor...he clicked "I agree"...":monkies:
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Ha! Who knows what MS actually says in their EULAs.... They could have you enter in an agreement to give them your house and damn if most would ever know that!
 
Chuck_Jodry-VJPL said:
Sure individual developers are in a position present evidence , we keep records and when a licence is reused on multiple computers in different locations we know it. this isn’t torrent upload , it's file sharing between friends " Lilly White Piracy " .<o:p></o:p>
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We DO have all the sales and activation records , what kind of response would there be if we did share them Ian...?

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I'm using one FSX installation between WinXP (DX9) and Win7 RC1 (DX10), so i have to install my add-ons twice. One FSX installation on the same computer but with two different operating systems.
I don't think that this is illegal. I want to use my add-ons in the most perfect environment under DX9 and under DX10 and it's not my fault that Windows and FSX are imperfect (DX10 "preview", incompatibility of many WinXP applications under Vista/Win7 etc.).
I'm not able to install the Hellcat twice on the same computer (not hundred times in different countries) and that's the reason why i didn't buy the YF-23. I don't even know if i could reinstall the Hellcat, if i would have to reformat and reinstall WinXP.


@Ian
Ian, what has happened to your hompage?
 
Ian,

There is no reason why you would not be able to install the YF23 on your computer as you outline here. Does not make any difference if you have some kind of dual boot system or not.

If you do have two operating systems, and therefore, two system registries, you will need to run the installer twice. But that should not pose a problem.
 
Tim_FSD said:
Ian,

There is no reason why you would not be able to install the YF23 on your computer as you outline here. Does not make any difference if you have some kind of dual boot system or not.

If you do have two operating systems, and therefore, two system registries, you will need to run the installer twice. But that should not pose a problem.
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Hi Tim,
i tried to install the Hellcat under Win7 64 and the installer is telling me that the Hellcat would be already installed on another Computer and then the Installer is crashing. I have no chance to press the report button, because of the app crash.
It worked once under Vista64, but then i used Win7 instead of Vista. I had also changed my HW (graphics card), but the installation under WinXP worked without problems.
So i don't know what you are logging, i only know the situation on my PC.

Greetings

Nils (not Ian)
 
Nils,

The system is designed to allow installation as you outlined, however, we really can't certify it for Windows 7 yet. We would have to have the full SDK from Microsoft first. Likely it is a small compatibility issue that is causing a big problem.
 
Hmm, if the error message says that it’s already been installed on another computer, then it seems to me “it” already “knows” what the problem is. On the RealFlight Hellcat, it will let you install on another computer, but only once… I ran into this with mine, err, I mean the copy I’m licensed to play with. Anyhow, I couldn’t get it to install the first time so I tried it on my laptop, just to see if I could get to the point where it couldn’t find FS, since I wasn’t even getting that far on the FS machine. This, evidently, counted as ONE (1) install. After figuring out how to install it on my FS machine, that was TWO (2). Then I bought a new FS machine, and went for THREE (3), whereupon I was informed by the installer that I was a PIRATE and couldn’t install it on THREE computers. I had to ask for a license transfer, or an installer reset. The fine folks at RealFlight were kind enough to reset my install count back to 0 (or 1) and I was able to install the plane on my new FS machine.
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As for the whole pirate debate, I sympathize (I think). I say “I think” because as bad as the situation is, I don’t think suspected downloaders should be taken out with deadly force by swat teams like in Tom Clancy movies. MC, you keep saying that, and every time I hear it I think you’re exaggerating for dramatic effect, but I’m starting to think you really do want them shot dead! I think that’s going a bit far, actually. Waterboarded, maybe, but I’m not sure about shot between the eyes. Somali pirates, yes, but that’s different. And like others here, I sort of resent being treated as a criminal when I buy something. “Keeping honest people honest” is a euphemism for “keeping people who say they are honest from stealing our stuff because we really know you would steal it if given the chance.” You know what? No I wouldn’t! Making your product so difficult to install that you drive away honest customers is not the answer. The really honest ones, I mean.
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Anyhow, I agree with those who suggest the problem would be smaller if the pirate sites were closed down.
 
JT8D-9A said:
I'm not able to install the Hellcat twice on the same computer (not hundred times in different countries) I don't even know if i could reinstall the Hellcat, if i would have to reformat and reinstall WinXP.
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Your able to reinstall the Hellcat on the same computer as many times as you need, the only time you will need to increase your installation requests is when a PC's finger print is changed (new harddrive, etc..)

If you need to know more please email me.
 
cheezyflier said:
are you saying that if i build another computer i'm supposed to buy all my add-ons a 2nd time? and if i just re-use the ones i have already paid for them i am a pirate?
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If you remove/stop using them on the older computer then it isn't a copyright violation. If you use it on both computers it is a violation unless you bought a site license or it says you can operate it on more than one PC simulatiously. Both scenarios are pretty unlikely when it comes to flightsim add-ons. Bottom line is that when you reinstall you need to uninstall the previous copy.
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Technically that is true, but we are not the Internal Revenue Service. If you have some kind of setup circumstances, or new computers, we can always work something out for you. I think most developers are pretty reasonable about that.
 
Thanks Tim and Dean!
I will contact you soon and it would be great if you could allow me the installation under Win7 64 RC1. I hope to switch completely to Win7 after its release, but that depends also if all tools and add-ons will be fully compatible with Win7 64.

@Paul
I only have one gaming PC (my laptop is a Thinkpad T30.. old but i love it) and i guess the change from Vista to Win7 has caused my problem.
But there seems to be also a problem with Win7 64 because of the connection error and the app crash.
Or is someone able to use the Hellcat under Win7 64 RC1?
 
Time for a reality check.

You are expecting that this installer (or one for any other product) should work flawlessly on an operating system that has not been released yet? :isadizzy:

I applaud RealFlight & FSD for working with you on this. They must have an awfully good crystal ball! :icon_lol:
 
realflight said:
Your able to reinstall the Hellcat on the same computer as many times as you need, the only time you will need to increase your installation requests is when a PC's finger print is changed (new harddrive, etc..)

If you need to know more please email me.
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This is just the case with me. I had to do a complete windows re-install on a new hard drive, and I havn't been able to re-install my hellcat.

I sent an email out yesterday requesting a new license, but nothing yet.

Guess I just have to wait

Regards, Diego
 
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