OT a little, I have a new toy.

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michael davies

Charter Member 2012
Well everyone always said FSx was CPU hungry and today it was forced home big time, new Mobo and chip turned up this morning, a previous new GPU in the form of HIS 4850 ICEQ made no difference to FSx at all.

But the new chip (E8400) on the new board just eats it, still running XP and 4GB Ram ( with out the ram fix yet) and its all maxed out and stable at 30-40FPS, no OC or cfg tweaks, just right out of the box playable, CPU temp just murmers along at 25-26 deg C.

Theres a minor stutter in tight turns but the change is dramatic and that can be reduced or removed with tweaks I hope.

Its been an reasonably expensive and long day ( 12hr night shift + 18hrs rebuilding the PC and OS) but very very rewarding.

Why the long ditrate, simple, listen to Texnetcop and Harleyman, both were very instrumental in guiding me through all this, specifically Harleyman and endless PMs of advice and tips, its not over yet as the rest of my software has to be loaded and authenticated but FSx is now very playable as it stands, let alone with FSx cfg and OS tweaking.

Very impressed with the E8400, very impressed indeed.

Kindest

Michael
 
Cool beans Michael....Its been our pleasure..We love good results..

BTW..For those micro studders in tight turns a config tweak for the TBM (texture_bandwidth_multi) of 70 - 90 should fix that right up..

Happy flying
 
That chip will clock to 4GHZ easily enough,Michael...................go on, ya know you want to!!! :icon_lol::ernae:
 
Yep, go ahead and OC it. That chip is very Overclockable and will most likely go to 4 ghz without even breaking a sweat at idle.
 
Ohh I will :), silly thing is, do I 'need' to LOL, right now its ok with a simple dial back on autogen or clouds, that may all change when I fly into Heathrow, but that will all be for tomorrows fun at the fair.

Best

Michael

kilo delta said:
That chip will clock to 4GHZ easily enough,Michael...................go on, ya know you want to!!! :icon_lol::ernae:
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I though I'd saved a copy of the old cfg as reference, seems I didnt ?, well I did but must have deleted it in the file tidy up !, so its back to reading all the FSx tweaks pages :).

TBM and Bufferpool seem to be the two primary ones to fiddly with.

Best

Michael

harleyman said:
Cool beans Michael....Its been our pleasure..We love good results..

BTW..For those micro studders in tight turns a config tweak for the TBM (texture_bandwidth_multi) of 70 - 90 should fix that right up..

Happy flying
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I hear ya on OC'ing, I had never attempted this before I got this now "old" QX6850 of mine, then I started reading up on oclocking.

I"ve had this "old" rig of mine running smooth as silk at 3.6ghz with load temps in the low 40's with FSX for some time now. Maybe I need to see how much higher I can go lol.

I ask a lot of questions on this forum and I agree, whatever you need to know there is always someone to assist you.

Thanks to all the "gurus" .
 
Good choice with the E8400. What mobo is it on?

I have an E8400 on a P5Q Deluxe - 8GB RAM. I LOVE it, but I've never gotten it to 4ghz with stability. I've gotten it to 3.6 stable, and 4.0 unstable and running a little hotter than I was comfortable running it.

With a 4870, it does pretty darn good with anything that I throw at it.
 
I rather wonder if I should have gone with that rather than my Q6600... probably since FSX doesn't support quads that well :p Anyway, I'm glad you're enjoying it :ernae:
 
Hi, I went with the Asus P5Q Pro with XP and 4GB RAM, GPU is the excellent HIS 4850 ICEQ, then I threw on the new cooler.. Arctic cooling freezer 7 Pro...cheap as chips but a very efficient cooler, I had bought a short while ago to solve the old CPU heat problems so just transfered it across.

I did consider a Quad or maybe even an i7 but they were a lot more expensive and FSx seems to prefer Dual cores and anything above 3.5ghz seems to get good results, so I got another Dual, the last one did very well and punched well above its weight, even with its lowly 1.8ghz rating, I tried OC it but it wasnt stable and made no difference to FSx at all.

Best

Michael

JSpal said:
Good choice with the E8400. What mobo is it on?

I have an E8400 on a P5Q Deluxe - 8GB RAM. I LOVE it, but I've never gotten it to 4ghz with stability. I've gotten it to 3.6 stable, and 4.0 unstable and running a little hotter than I was comfortable running it.

With a 4870, it does pretty darn good with anything that I throw at it.
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Super Michael.

For some odd reason, I despise any autogen in FSX, the ground textures are so sharp and bump mapping so good, after 500-ft ground altitude, I forget about the trees and buildings. And even with my modest dual-core 3.4 AMD, I get fps of 40 -50, as long as I am not around heavy traffic. And all that gorgeous photoreal scenery just does not look right with aurogen applied.

You go Michael. :ernae:

Caz
 
VFR Reviews said:
I rather wonder if I should have gone with that rather than my Q6600... probably since FSX doesn't support quads that well :p
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A Q6600 still eats an E6600 for breakfast in FSX. Why? Four versus two cores.
A Q6600 though doesn't stand a chance against an E8400. Why? A clock difference of 600Mhz.
And FSX likes clocks.

Anyways, if you could get your quad up to 4GHz as well you wouldn't see a difference between it and an E8400 at the same speed.
However, clocking quads (except the extreme edition ones) is harder than clocking dual cores, since the former usually have lower multipliers and thus need to work their clocks up much via the FSB.
Also, a quad needs more energy than a dual core and produces way more heat than its two-cored brother, so if you want to take the 4GHz wall, you'll need advanced cooling solutions like water.

Ever since I got my quad, I didn't want to go back to a dual at all. This thing is just too good.



- Edit: Congratulations on the new CPU, Michael!
 
Oddly I cannot fly with out Autogen trees, I hate landing with nothing be flatness in front, granted the photo real scenery is stunning above 1000' AGL but its the approach that kills it, I've also been doing a lot of helo work for the last few years and trees and autogen are pretty much a requisite.

Still havent tweaked it yet but my mind is now looking at some of this addon enviromental stuff, REX, GEX ?, I'm a bit of a dummy with that stuff, what does what, I think REX is sky and clouds ?, GEX is ground ?, does GEX support autogen, I'd heard one of the scenery addons didnt.

Best

Michael

Cazzie said:
Super Michael.

For some odd reason, I despise any autogen in FSX, the ground textures are so sharp and bump mapping so good, after 500-ft ground altitude, I forget about the trees and buildings. And even with my modest dual-core 3.4 AMD, I get fps of 40 -50, as long as I am not around heavy traffic. And all that gorgeous photoreal scenery just does not look right with aurogen applied.

You go Michael. :ernae:

Caz
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Cazzie said:
Super Michael.

For some odd reason, I despise any autogen in FSX, the ground textures are so sharp and bump mapping so good, after 500-ft ground altitude, I forget about the trees and buildings. And even with my modest dual-core 3.4 AMD, I get fps of 40 -50, as long as I am not around heavy traffic. And all that gorgeous photoreal scenery just does not look right with aurogen applied.

You go Michael. :ernae:

Caz
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I thought I was the only one. Once you're off the ground, it looks more realistic with the autogen off, so i never use it anymore.

Have fun with your new build, Michael.
 
Michael that E8400 is a beast and easily overclocks way up there on air alone. It will take adding some voltage to get things moving. It can take it. I gave my wife my E8400, and replaced her P35 DFI Blood Iron MB with a Gigabyte EP45 UD3P motherboard and Patriot Viper DDR2 1200 memory. Need less to say...WOW! Temp at idle with CoreTemp shows 39C and gaming tops out at 52C. Real Temp shows it a few degrees lower on each.
Ted
 
Ted, what voltage did you require to get it moving ?, I think my RAM wont let it get to high at the moment, oddly the utilities don't tell me what rating my RAM is, it is DDR2 and thats all I can remember. CPUz shows 2ghz and 6x multiplier, yet Everest shows 3ghz and 7x multiplier !, these utilities never match do they, most bizarre.

Hopefully get some spare time this evening to start messing with OC.

Best

Michael

txnetcop said:
Michael that E8400 is a beast and easily overclocks way up there on air alone. It will take adding some voltage to get things moving. It can take it. I gave my wife my E8400, and replaced her P35 DFI Blood Iron MB with a Gigabyte EP45 UD3P motherboard and Patriot Viper DDR2 1200 memory. Need less to say...WOW! Temp at idle with CoreTemp shows 39C and gaming tops out at 52C. Real Temp shows it a few degrees lower on each.
Ted
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Michael, a warning, I had to raise the Northbridge temp as well and use DDR2 1200 memory to get it stable. The voltage on the E8400 was 1.475 and on the Northbridge 1.71. This was the best I get stable and only the Gigabyte board would let me keep this setting. I ran OCCT and memtest without one failure. I tried to duplicate this on an ASUS Maximus Extreme at TechCorp and could not. Capacitors began failing during stress testing, so I have no idea how your ASUS will do if you try a more than 4.0GHz overclock. I did add a fan to the Northbridge to keep it cool by the way. The performance in FSX is absolutely unbelievable. It really outpaces the Quads that I used at TechCorp.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185039

Be careful, raise it incrementally, and test as you go
Ted
 
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