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txnetcop said:
Michael that E8400 is a beast and easily overclocks way up there on air alone. It will take adding some voltage to get things moving. It can take it. I gave my wife my E8400, and replaced her P35 DFI Blood Iron MB with a Gigabyte EP45 UD3P motherboard and Patriot Viper DDR2 1200 memory. Need less to say...WOW! Temp at idle with CoreTemp shows 39C and gaming tops out at 52C. Real Temp shows it a few degrees lower on each.
Ted
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That's a great overclock,Ted!!:applause:
The highest that I went with my E8500 was 4.4GHZ though I was running pc8500 ram on an Evga 680i mobo.
It was a fantastic platform for FSX,though, with very high fps and all settings maxxed out....still have those parts in storage so I must throw them into a new build.:)
 
I don't know which I love more my old E8400 or the new E8600 which I have OC'd at 4.465 using a 9.5 multiplier (9.0 with turbo). It is a awesome Quad eater. However someday I would like to get a Q9650 before I move to i7Core. I just haven't seen any reason to go to i7 Core yet since I beat their numbers in most gaming anyway. In FSX it's not even a close match the higher OC'd Core 2 Duos beat them to death.
Ted
 
kilo delta said:
That's a great overclock,Ted!!:applause:
The highest that I went with my E8500 was 4.4GHZ though I was running pc8500 ram on an Evga 680i mobo.
It was a fantastic platform for FSX,though, with very high fps and all settings maxxed out....still have those parts in storage so I must throw them into a new build.:)
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Screeeech. Can we hold it right here and talk about which processor is best for FSX...Quad or Dual?

I'm planning on building a Sim Pit with it's own dedicated rig. Currently, my QX9650 is running at 3.79 Mhz, the FSB at 1400 Mhz, and the memory at 1050Mhz. I've taken the CPU up to 4.2 and not really seen much of a performance difference in the way port-overs run or the amount of AI that can be used (these are my metrics because I don't use the autogen). I built this rig and it works great, but I'm not going to use it in my Sim Pit.

So, for a rig that will most likely just be used to run flight sim, what would you think, Quad or Dual?
 
I agree with Bjoern. I have no blurries but you have to tweak the cfg to doomsday to get it right and I am able to run high fps, but if you already have a quad stay with a quad. I don't have the money to buy one so I have to make what I have compete with them. I get most of my parts from either TechCorp, donation, or the old General Wh61 who has been extremely generous for work I do for him. OOps can't forget Harleyman either...a very good friend a lover of computer technology.
Ted
 
Ted,

Real simple question, how do I find out what type of RAM I have, all I know is that its DDR2 and a failing mental image that its 800 something ? edit ok I found it, its PC2-5300 333mhz, now to find out what that actually means LOL, chips and mobos are bad enough but RAM is just beyond belief to decipher !.

Currently running the E8400 at 3.6ghz which gives a FSB of 800mhz, so cpuID tells me, temps are still very low, though they vary wildly with applications, Bios is 36.5degC, HWMon is 24degC and Core Temp is 44degC.

I've left everything else in the Bios as auto, voltages and RAM/DRAM ? settings, seems ok so far.

Whats the best and quickest bench tester out there, Prime95 is supposed to be the best but 24hrs LOL.

Best

Michael
 
Michael I use either Everest Ultimate(payware) or SiSandra 2009 Lite(free). It will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about your system and component parts.

To see if you have blurries, a great way to check is to strap on the F-18 that comes with Acceleration or Javis's freeware F-86(FS9 portover) and climb to about 10-15k and look down. If you are outpacing your cpu's ability to work with your graphics card it will be very noticeable. I have never had blurries with either the E8400 or E8600 and the HIS HD4850, HD4870, or Nvidia GTX285(my latest), but some peple report blurries with Core 2 Duo.

BTW 3.6 is very good in FSX...anything higher is window dressing for eye-candy and not always achievable.
Ted
 
I use Everest too, there is a demo available here.. http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?ps=UE&lang=en&page=1

Your current memory is pretty poor for overclocking,tbh. Depending on your mobo you could go with 1200mhz ram for maximum performance...something like.. http://www.memoryc.co.uk/products/d...lade_Series-5_5_5-Dual_Channel_kit/index.html . If you can't stretch that far then go with some 1066mhz (PC-8500) memory... http://www.memoryc.co.uk/products/t...DR2/index.html?Capacity=4GB&Standard=PC2+8500
 
Ted,

Ok will go give the Hornet a good pasting :). Theres a report out there ( edited by your fair hand :) ) that suggests chip FSB should not exceed the RAM, currently I'm running 400Mhz FSB, not 800 as above, yet my memeory is still 333mhz, it is old and the new Mobo will take 2GB sticks so I might just opt for two newer sticks ( I need a lot for Max TBH ) and be safe.

Will also try SiSandra shortly.

Best

Michael
 
FSB continuity is essential in everything but i7 Core and AMD which do not use fsb architecture.
Ted
 
KD, thanks for that, was just coming to the same conclusion myself, when pushed hard I reckon my RAM is going to play up, I'll give FSx one big push and see what happens, then drop back to stock 3ghz until the new RAM arrives.

Ted, yes, I see whats going on now, the RAM is well below par, the supplier I use ( Novatech ) doesnt ship DDR2 1200, only DDR2 1066, I'd like 1200, but in reality, will I push it hard enough to justify the extra cost ?.

Choices choices LOL.

Right, time to go fly a little :)

Best

Michael


kilo delta said:
I use Everest too, there is a demo available here.. http://www.lavalys.com/products.php?ps=UE&lang=en&page=1

Your current memory is pretty poor for overclocking,tbh. Depending on your mobo you could go with 1200mhz ram for maximum performance...something like.. http://www.memoryc.co.uk/products/d...lade_Series-5_5_5-Dual_Channel_kit/index.html . If you can't stretch that far then go with some 1066mhz (PC-8500) memory... http://www.memoryc.co.uk/products/t...DR2/index.html?Capacity=4GB&Standard=PC2+8500
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michael davies said:
That'd be the same as sharpness then ? LOL.
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Well no, not exactly.

Anyone can have sharp textures, it's important that they don't blur out once you go low and fast for a while.

A quad raises the threshhold for burries quite considerably, say you won't encounter them as early as with a duo.
It has to be understood though that your Ram also plays a role in this game. What good is a fast CPU if the memory can't keep up?
 
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