P-38(s)

[Gibbage]

All in all a typical days work for we devs .

Great work Chuck! The new ref map is a million times better! I also got new FM from DCC and not only is she looking better, but flying better! Im very pleased with the new developments!!

Still a few FM bugs to iron out, but its getting there. Again, great job! :ernae:

 

[krazycolin]

Though I have been saying it for a long time we do have plans to release a full FSX version of our SkyUnlimited P-38s. Work has been slow, but progressing well. Nothing to show off yet, but I will keep everyone updated when we have some news and some screenshots to show off. When it is done many things will have been redone including enhanced textures and new custom 3d gauges. It will be available for a very affordable price as well. I have no idea if it will beat the Meteor on which will be released first.

Well, I'm pretty sure that it won't be nearly as nice as ours AND it won't be DCC approved!

And now, go make your own P-38 thread matey! This one's ours!

kc.

 

[AckAck]

Well, I'm pretty sure that it won't be nearly as nice as ours AND it won't be DCC approved!

And now, go make your own P-38 thread matey! This one's ours!

kc.

Wow - What? How does this thread start?

does anybody know, if SU are also doing a FSX Lightning? I´m asking because the Milviz seems to be a superb model, but the textures look rather gloss dark grey then nature metal (polished aluminium) to me.

By asking about SU's model? Maybe you need to get off his thread? (not suggesting that, but really, stop claiming this thread is all about yours.)

So, without having seen SU's FSX P-38, the FS9 version of which was DCC approved, you have concluded that yours is better? OK, whatever. I'm sure yours is nice. I'm just not sure Cerberus' is worse, just different.

Brian

 

[some1]

And now, go make your own P-38 thread matey! This one's ours!

Errr, you're sure?

 

[krazycolin]

No. Of course not. It's not REALLY ours.

However, were I to go into the Iris thread and say that we were making an F-16D too (we're not) wouldn't that be just a touch offensive? No? If not, then statement retracted. If so, it stands.

kc

 

[Mathias]

No. Of course not. It's not REALLY ours.

However, were I to go into the Iris thread and say that we were making an F-16D too (we're not) wouldn't that be just a touch offensive? No? If not, then statement retracted. If so, it stands.

kc

Hello,
does anybody know, if SU are also doing a FSX Lightning? I´m asking because the Milviz seems to be a superb model, but the textures look rather gloss dark grey then nature metal (polished aluminium) to me.
Warplanes weren`t always polished, ok but not gray...

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Cheers, Thilo

Seems to me the original poster was asking for the Sky Unlimited P-38.
Guess he got his answer from Jesse, right?

 

[Gibbage]

So, without having seen SU's FSX P-38, the FS9 version of which was DCC approved, you have concluded that yours is better? OK, whatever. I'm sure yours is nice. I'm just not sure Cerberus' is worse, just different.

Brian

FYI, I made the SU model. So yes, we can conclude it is better.

P.S. Competition is good. For the consumer. Remember that. Free economics 101.

 

[Henry]

No. Of course not. It's not REALLY ours.

However, were I to go into the Iris thread and say that we were making an F-16D too (we're not) wouldn't that be just a touch offensive? No? If not, then statement retracted. If so, it stands.

kc

i believe thats what you did!

come on guys
i understand competition
there is such a thing as friendly competition
and i believe Gibbage and DCC worked on both
just keep it friendly
H

 

[AckAck]

FYI, I made the SU model. So yes, we can conclude it is better.

P.S. Competition is good. For the consumer. Remember that. Free economics 101.

Yes, I know you did the SU FS9 version. Conclude what you want, based on whatever information you choose. I'm sure that is has been modified - "(When it is done many things will have been redone including enhanced textures and new custom 3d gauges.)", but not having any dog in this fight, I really don't see any need to get into a pissing match about it.

I also don't have a problem with two or three developers doing the same project. Although it seems to raise tensions somewhat, with this thread having one representative of one the developers tring to exclude discussion about the others aircraft, and the lovely debacle of the F-16 threads. The P-51 thread might not last too long either. Then, when Dirk releases his Super Puma, we can destroy that thread too.

Brian

 

[Gibbage]

Then, when Dirk releases his Super Puma, we can destroy that thread too.

Brian

Im glad your keeping things positive!

Anyways, im interested in seeing what Jesse did to my P-38 model, but I can honestly say that unless everything is 100% remodeled, it wont come near to the quality or detail of my new model. Simply put, that model was started on 5/23/2005. I now have over 4 years more experience under my belt. Also, this puts things into perspective, the new model has over 8x the polygons as the SU model and built specifically for FSX.

Ultimately its up to the customer if they want 1.0 with a little bit of lipstick or 2.0.

Sorry Jesse! Competition is competition.

 

[michael davies]

Very disappointed to read some of the above posts from people I held in high esteem, I think some are being over defensive about their wares, the product looks good and should be all the talking required. Very poor cricket when one needs to climb on the back of others to promote their wares.

Competition is good but down right dismissal of others work is sad to see and too arrogant for my delicate tastes.

Best

Michael

 

[krazycolin]

Sheesh.... has this gone off track or what?

I have to say, I'm justifiably proud of the work that's gone and is going into the Milviz/FSD P-38. And that's not arrogance... that's fact. If I think that Jesse and his team can't do better, I'm entitled to my opinion just like you gents are entitled to yours. You have no qualms about saying so here and everywhere else. What exactly is different about my having one and saying so? He's a competitor and that's a reason for not having an opinion?

I could have phrased it better and perhaps, likely even, I should have said nothing at all. However, spilt milk and all that.

I'm outta here... maybe I'll go hang out with Yago.

kc

 

[Gibbage]

Competition is good but down right dismissal of others work is sad to see and too arrogant for my delicate tastes.

Best

Michael

The only person here dismissing anything is me, and im dismissing my own work. Till Jesse puts something up, all I can do is assume its still my work.

 

[michael davies]

Colin, Never mind, it is what it is.

Kevin, Of course you can say what ever you like about your work, I just wouldn't have worded it quite like that, it came across (to me) as mildly dismissive ?, a dialect issue I'm sure.

I'm offically on vacation now to the US in 12 mins, y'all have fun coz I know I will now that STS-128 is delayed until Fri.

Best

Michael

 

[MudMarine]

You people need to get over it and move on. The agrument over....."it's too shiny or not shiny enough" is just @#$*)&#(&! If you don't like it use the paint kit and make it as dull or shiny as you like...........:isadizzy: The lack of commen sense and respect around here lately is maddening.

 

[Gibbage]

The lack of commen sense and respect around here lately is maddening.

Its just something that happens with every warbird release. Some want it like it was in WWII, and some want a museum peace.

 

[MudMarine]

Its just something that happens with every warbird release. Some want it like it was in WWII, and some want a museum peace.

Agreed! That's what paint kits are great for! Aircrews had a lot of pride in the upkeep and maintenance of their aircraft. They'd NEVER intentionally let an aircraft become filthy! Any mechanic knows dirt equals wear which kills the life of engines and parts which makes for more work in the end. Yes foward bases often didn't allow for perfect maintenance, paint becomes dull under harsh sun conditions and mud is everywhere. But it's like a guy with a hot car, he never wants his hotrod to look anything but perfect!

 

[Cerberus]

It wouldn’t be very polite to ignore the original posters direct question to us, and I even took the time to word it in such a way that it would not distract anyone from yours since they most likely would be seeking out a new P-38 in the short term. Needless to say I did not expect to wake up to see my post stirring up any trouble. If I ever posted anything in one of the milviz threads it was only to say nice things. I’ve always been an admirer of Gibbages work, and his new models looks great. In the end I think our new upgrades and low price will reach out to a totally different crowd. I’ve never professed to create the best looking or the most feature rich aircraft, but I think we do release sound products that are priced according to how I think they compare to the market around us.

For example, maybe a user will buy the Milviz version because they think the VC is much better looking. Another user might buy our version because it has a lower price, more variants, and more paint schemes. Our original version had 4 variants and 16 schemes. We all shuffle our development efforts differently. Instead of spending 2 hours on each of those paint schemes or days making an additional variant we could have spent more time working on just the cockpit like some developers and only release 2 variants and 2 paint schemes. In the end I think whatever we release will be well worth the money.

We just got finished this past weekend selling our Texan Package for only $10.48. If someone came out with a better Texan they would be hard pressed to call ours crap when it at such a great price for all that is included with the package. Although we sold it for a price way lower than any competitors I personally think it’s the best Texan package on the market.

 

[MudMarine]

You don't outstanding work Cerb.! I'm a fan of the products SU sells and the price you put on them! Keep up the good work!

 

[Gibbage]

You don't outstanding work Cerb.!

I think an edit is required. Heh.