P-51B "Berlin Express" to Cross Atlantic Ocean

Safely at Dux


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Job well done. Those white walls would have Willy positively drooling.

By the way, for those wishing to emulate this flight is there a flight plan available please.
 
Hey Pat, it would be fun to sit down and recreate this same flight, over the course of perhaps a couple weeks or so.

The entire flight went as follows:

1st Day:
5TE0 Comanche Ranch (Eagle Pass, TX) ---to--- KPAH Barkley Regional (Paducah, Kentucky)
KPAH Barkley Regional (Paducah, Kentucky) ---to--- KDKK Chautauqua County Airport (Dunkirk, New York)

2nd Day:
KDKK Chautauqua County Airport (Dunkirk, New York) ---to--- KBGR Bangor International (Bangor, Maine)
KBGR Bangor International (Bangor, Maine) ---to--- CYYR Goose Bay Airport (Goose Bay, Newfoundland)

3rd Day:
CYYR Goose Bay Airport (Goose Bay, Newfoundland) ---to--- BGBW Narsarsuaq Airport (Narsarsuaq, Greenland)

4th Day:
BGBW Narsarsuaq Airport (Narsarsuaq, Greenland) ---to--- BIKF Keflavik International (Keflavik, Iceland)

5th Day:
BIKF Keflavik International (Keflavik, Iceland) ---to--- EGPC Wick John O' Groats Airport (Wick, Scotland)

6th Day:
EGPC Wick John O' Groats Airport (Wick, Scotland) ---to--- EGSU Duxford Aerodrome (Duxford, Cambridgeshire, England)


(The full journey took 7 days, as they didn't do any flying on Saturday due to weather. I've read that the entire flight covered 5,470 miles.)
 
By my rough calculations, adding up all of the legs of the flight by when "BE" was reported as taking off and when it was reported as landing, it works out to be right at 22-hrs of flight time, from when it left Texas last Tuesday, till when it arrived at Duxford this morning.
 
Thanks for that John. I will sit down in the next week or so to plan this flight. It will be a good test of your WBS P-51B in P3D V4.

Also I thought it was the P-51C that was fitted with the Malcolm Hood or was it originally a British RAF thing?
 
Thanks for that John. I will sit down in the next week or so to plan this flight. It will be a good test of your WBS P-51B in P3D V4.

Also I thought it was the P-51C that was fitted with the Malcolm Hood or was it originally a British RAF thing?

The P-51B and P-51C were the same aircraft, it was just North American Aviation's method of differentiating which assembly plant built the aircraft. P-51B's were built in Inglewood, California, while P-51C's came off the new assembly line in Dallas, Texas. Regardless of whether it was a P-51B or a P-51C that the RAF received, they named it the Mustang Mk.III. As for the Malcom hood, that was a British invention that was adopted by several USAAF units.
 
Just to add to what has been mentioned already referring to the Malcolm hood canopies...

All P-51B's and C's were manufactured with the "birdcage"/framed canopy, and all were identical - B's from Inglewood, CA and C's from Dallas, TX. (This manner of changing the contract letter designation based on place of manufacture did not hold true with the P-51D of course, as the 'D' was called a 'D' no matter if it was manufactured at Inglewood or Dallas - all adding to the confusion of course.)

Early into its service life (1940/1941), there were two main complaints coming in from RAF pilots, both concerning the early "birdcage" canopy - one main complaint was about the lack of visibility to the rear, and the other complaint had to do with taller pilots finding the headroom quite limited. The plan developed, therefore, to fit the Mustang with a canopy like what was being installed on Spitfires at the time (NAA was often quite closely associated with British aviation firms/designers at the time). North American Aviation engineers began doing the initial outline of the work in Inglewood, CA, and then went to England, working with the British firm R. Malcolm Comany, Ltd. to fully develop and produce a blown one-piece sliding bulged-hood canopy (blown canopies were quite a new invention at the time, and Malcolm already had the experience of using the method in producing canopies for the Spitfire). The idea was to provide enough bulging on the sides of the canopy so that the pilot could lean his head outward, and not only have improved visibility rearward, but also greater range of view downward, all the while providing far greater headroom and all-around visibility. In England, R. Malcolm did the stress load calculations and completed all of the design work for the internal and external modifications. NAA would continue to manufacture the P-51B/C's with the original birdcage canopy, up until the very last one, as by then they already had the P-51D well in development. Malcolm would however produce and provide as many Malcolm hood canopy "kits" as possible to RAF and USAAF units. Testing of the canopy first began as early as December 1942, but it took some time before they finally began delivering and fitting production examples of the canopy. Having followed the development of this new canopy and the enthusiastic reports by the British Air Ministry after the initial testing, in September 1943 the 8th Fighter Command in England expressed a similar and urgent desire to refit all of their P-51B/C's with the Malcolm hood canopy.

As I recall, the photo-recon Mustangs got priority, which included the Allison-engined RAF and USAAF variants like the Mustang Mk.II and F-6A/B, followed by the Merlin-engined RAF Mustang III's and USAAF P-51B/C's. At some point, the British Air Ministry even ordered that all RAF Mustang III's would only be delivered to operational units after the Malcolm hood was installed. On USAAF P-51B/C's, the Malcolm canopies began to be installed as early as February/March 1944. Both 8th AF and 9th AF P-51B/C's and F-6C's, operating from England and front-line bases in France and Belgium were fitted with Malcolm canopies, but these were the only USAAF Commands that used the canopy, and thus the canopies never were installed on Mustangs in any other Theatre of the war. Some very well-kept 9th AF photo-recon F-6C's in the ETO, following VE-Day, were packaged-up and shipped back to the US to eventually be used in the Pacific, but which never happened (which is the reason why some Malcolm-hooded Mustangs showed up in the US at the end of WWII).

The modification itself - the time spent converting a stock "birdcage" P-51A/B/C type to a Malcolm hood - was quite extensive/quite involved, and took an estimated 130 man hours. As a result, these modifications were usually always handled at depot-level. It involved having to remove the stock radio mast/antenna and mounting a new wire/whip antenna farther back along the spine and re-routing the wiring for the main radio set. With the birdcage canopy removed, the stock emergency canopy release system/parts also had to be removed. In its place were new canopy rails, canopy crank, sprockets, chains, wooden structural panels and supports, metal panels and supports, a whole new emergency release mechanism, the canopy itself, and a seal and fairing around the rear edge of the windscreen, all requiring a lot of drilling out new holes for screws and cutting in a hole for the external canopy release button to fit through.
 
BTW, for those looking to retrace the flight plan that "Berlin Express" flew over the past week...

Each leg of the flight was flown at moderate, safe and efficient cruising altitudes:

On the first leg, from 5TE0 to KPAH, the cruising altitude was 11,500 ft
On the second leg, from KPAH to KDKK, the cruising altitude was 11,500 ft
On the third leg, from KDKK to KBGR, the cruising altitude was 11,500 ft
On the fourth leg, from KBGR to CYYR, the cruising altitude was 11,500 ft
On the fifth leg, from CYYR to BGBW, the cruising altitude was 10,000 ft
On the sixth leg, from BGBW to BIKF, the cruising altitude was 13,000 ft (initial) down to 12,000 ft (due to cloud layer)
On the seventh leg, from BIKF to EGPC, the cruising altitude was 13,000 ft
On the final leg, from EGPC to EGSU, the cruising altitude was 12,000 ft

Each leg, the average true airspeed during cruise was 230kts, with the average ground speed being around/near 250kts (plus/minus as much as 5kts, depending on cruising altitude). 5,470 miles covered, over six days of flying, with roughly 22hrs of flight time total.
 
Thanks John for this! I will defenietly try to simulate this journey after I come back from Duxford next week:encouragement:
 
Thanks John for this! I will defenietly try to simulate this journey after I come back from Duxford next week:encouragement:


hey while at Duxford ,look for Col C E Bud Anderson and tell him you know me,he and i are both from Auburn Ca,he would know me as either the fat guy in the power wheelchair,or the plumbers son...lol.....and im serious.see what he says...last i heard,he had told my mom one day at the market that he was going to Duxford again this year.
 
I have a question for anyone but was thinking that John might have an idea.

What is the longest P51 combat mission as far as miles traveled/duration in WW2?

I have not looked this up and Im hoping someone might be able to give a detailed answer.

Thanks.

Creeps.
 
The longest standard Mustang combat missions of WWII were those flown by pilots of the 506th FG operating from Iwo Jima. These were known as VLR missions, or "Very Long Range", and usually lasted 7 hours, but 8 hours wasn't uncommon. Because of the duration and the resulting fatigue and strain it placed on the crews, pilots were given credit for flying three missions for every one VLR mission. Once a 506th FG pilot would reach 15 VLR missions, they were done. The Mustangs would carry enough fuel, sometimes in P-38-type 150-gallon tanks, to make it to Japan and then loiter over Tokyo, for instance, for up to two hours, before making the journey back to Iwo. Pilots were restricted to flying no more than six VLR missions per month. I've read descriptions and seen old moving footage of pilots having to be helped out of the cockpits after a VLR mission. If a pilot was shot down in Japanese waters, a flight of Mustangs would provide cover until a US submarine or PBY would rescue the pilot, and in some of these cases, these Mustang pilots flew cover for up to 4 hours, finally landing after spending 10 hours in the air. Typical round-trip distance was 1,500 miles, most of which was of course over open ocean.
 
The longest standard Mustang combat missions of WWII were those flown by pilots of the 506th FG operating from Iwo Jima. These were known as VLR missions, or "Very Long Range", and usually lasted 7 hours, but 8 hours wasn't uncommon. Because of the duration and the resulting fatigue and strain it placed on the crews, pilots were given credit for flying three missions for every one VLR mission. Once a 506th FG pilot would reach 15 VLR missions, they were done. The Mustangs would carry enough fuel, sometimes in P-38-type 150-gallon tanks, to make it to Japan and then loiter over Tokyo, for instance, for up to two hours, before making the journey back to Iwo. Pilots were restricted to flying no more than six VLR missions per month. I've read descriptions and seen old moving footage of pilots having to be helped out of the cockpits after a VLR mission. If a pilot was shot down in Japanese waters, a flight of Mustangs would provide cover until a US submarine or PBY would rescue the pilot, and in some of these cases, these Mustang pilots flew cover for up to 4 hours, finally landing after spending 10 hours in the air. Typical round-trip distance was 1,500 miles, most of which was of course over open ocean.

Thank you very much for sharing. I had a feeling that the Pacific pilots might have had longer missions because of the vast size of that ocean.

:applause:
 
Nick Grey (of The Fighter Collection) was flying the aircraft at the time, and was entering into a display routine that he had already practiced flying in the aircraft earlier this week. According to Nick Grey, he was indicating 360kts (or roughly 414mph) at the time the plexiglass canopy separated. The plexiglass was the only thing that departed - the canopy frames/runners were still attached to the rails. In one particular photo (second photo in this post), it shows that the right-side of the canopy separated from the framework (roller assembly) which ended up splitting and shattering the canopy into many pieces, all in a split second. Some moderate sized pieces dented the vertical fin and dented and bent portions of both sides of the horizontal. Hopefully the damage to the tail surfaces is limited to just the leading edges, otherwise the horizontal, for instance, may have to be put back in a jig for the repairs to be done, if the damage has affected the forward spars. It is amazing the damage that can be done by just some chunks of plastic - going 400mph.



As said, fortunately it wasn't actually the whole Malcolm hood canopy that came off, it was just the plexiglass (the runners remained attached to the canopy rails), and thus with the exception of the tail repairs that will have to be done, only the actual plexiglass bubble will have to replaced. Pacific Fighters, which restored this one, I know had at least 3 of the plexiglass bubbles newly manufactured for the various restorations they've done/worked on ("Impatient Virign", "Berlin Express", and currently an RAF B-model), so that will likely be the route taken to source a new one. The most difficult part might be identifying the reason why the plexiglass separated and then being able to better ensure that it doesn't happen again. Even if they could get a replacement Malcolm hood canopy over to England, they still wouldn't be able to fly it again until the tail is repaired, which will take weeks in itself and better done back in the US where it was restored in the first place.

Some people have been saying that due to this incident yesterday, this is the reason why the plane will have to be crated and shipped back to the US - but that was going to happen anyway, just probably not so soon as it will be happening. "BE" was going to be used by the Horsemen P-51 aerobatic team for their three-ship formation routine this weekend at Flying Legends - that is the whole reason why it was flown over to England ahead of this weekend (the aircraft was recently purchased by Horsemen pilot, Dan Friedkin). The P-51D "Miss Helen" will be used in-place of "BE" for today's Flying Legends air show. "Frenesi", the other Mustang that Friedkin currently has in England, was originally scheduled to to participate in the RIAT airshow next weekend, for the Heritage Flight performance, but then the decision was made within the last week or two to use "Berlin Express" at RIAT instead. Now with "BE" unserviceable, I'm sure "Frenesi" will be used.



Some more photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/123146806@N06/35762044756/sizes/l
https://www.flickr.com/photos/141052859@N04/35423258340/sizes/h/
 
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