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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

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P-51D Mustang ‘Cadillac of the Skies’ for FSX Part 1 Restored - OUT NOW!

coming back to our font discussion, I thought why not, so after trawling through my pics and drawings, and a bit of time in good old Illustrator, I now I have all the numbers I need for more or less correct serials on the tail. Here's a first example, looks better than the old USAAF serial stencil font I used previously, doesn't it? Now for the correct spacing...

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Oh, this one is already "in the box" when it came out. I am patient because I know you will make us beautiful textures worthy of this aircraft
 
Congratulations to Warbird Sim on this release. From what I have seen and read, a truly beautiful model. However, one that I will not be buying. I have read all your documentation, all of the replies to this thread and looked at all the screen shots and no where does it mention anything that would lead me to believe this offering has anything approaching the A2A Accusim features for the engine and systems.
And at over $NZ50.00 this is just way overpriced for me. I have to compare it to the $NZ40 something dollars that I paid for the A2A B17 Accusim and the ~$NZ30.00 for the Flight Replicas Boomerang and unfortunately this aircraft falls short of that measure.

Please do not take this as criticism of your work. You are truly an "Artist" and I salute you. It is just the cold hard facts of limited discretionary dollars and choosing the best value for my pesos. So I will be waiting for the A2A Spitfire and P51D. And yes they may not be individually modeled off surviving aircraft, but then they will be Accusimmed and this hobby for me is about flying, not counting rivets and jewelery.

My best Regards to you
Paul
 
Paul, I'm not sure exactly what I am to take from your post. First, I am very sorry that the exchange rate of 24.99 British Pounds is so dramatic in New Zealand dollars! Unfortunately we cannot simply lower the price to match each nation's exchange rate - it just couldn't work. And don't worry, I don't take your comments as a criticism either - though I am a bit confused over whether the price was the real point of your post, or if you're just trying to plug another's products - perhaps both (maybe a not so hidden bias)? ;)

The element of importance that I have in these aircraft is accuracy of visual models (to the Nth degree), though unfortunately I know that isn't always very important to all. For me, that is the only way to go. With this product we wanted to achieve something that no one has achieved before, and based on evidence seen, won't be achieved in the future, and I am 100% confident we have done so. If you truly care about how accurate the visuals are (and for that matter the sounds and flight dynamics too, to whom Mr. Albert Patrick deserves so much praise!), I guarantee you this is the Mustang, for now, and to come. I wish everyone could see the thousands of pages of documents that were used to finally create an accurate and authentic P-51D-20 and P-51D-30 for flight sim use (as well as an F-6D, NACA-modified P-51D-25, and P-51K-10, just to add those in!)! This included original drawings as used on the NAA shop floor to originally manufacture the aircraft, manuals of every kind, covering assembly, maintenance, operation, tech orders, field modifications, etc., expensive and hard to find publications over the past years covering every nook and cranny of the aircraft inside and out (not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of photos taken by Albert and I, from Mustangs in the UK and the states, inside and out), all allowing this aircraft to be made as accurate and authentic as it is. Add into this the exhaustive cross-referencing of both drawings and photos, for a given part, and having the approval of not just a couple of Mustang pilots, but the approval, and criticism, along the way, of the guys that know the aircraft the most, the restorers and maintainers! I really hope that these measures are appreciated, and at least most people actually care to note the accuracy you can clearly see when comparing this product to real life examples, past and present
- if not, I may just cry...:)
 
Bomber_12th

I've just re-read my post following your reply. I did proof it a couple of times prior to sending as I didn't want to offend or create the wrong impression. Glad I didn't offend. 1 out of 2 isn't bad.
I suppose I was trying to do two things. Congratulate you and your team on a truly awesome aircraft and give an insight into why, of all those posting here, I wont be getting it. I was not trying to "plug" the A2A P51, although I believe mentioning yours and theirs in the same context is I think a complement to you both.
I have to ask of course, do you incorporate a similar vehicle to their Accusim with these models? If you do then they are indeed among the best. And yes the detail and attention to it should be praised and highly, although I fear that most will just strap her on and take off. But then sometimes that is the complement isn't it. That favorite jersey that just fits and feels right.

Anyway, thanks for all your efforts in producing these aircraft for us, even if I can not at this time afford them. Maybe if the GBP crashes or something.

Regards
Paul
 
Paul, no problem, and I hope the 'tongue-in-cheekiness' in my first part was understood, and I am certainly sincere in my regards to the price, as it shows in New Zealand Dollars - I personally did not know the exchange rate was so high - and here I thought the U.S. Dollar was bad!

I would love to have something like Accusim, complementing what is already there. Unfortunately, the current development team (Albert Patrick and I) aren't all too skilled in what it takes to add such system-depth (not too many are!). Perhaps something for the future, time will tell. I'm rather proud just within what I was able to achieve with XML coding for this product, having never attempted such things like a completely functioning radio-set before, especially modeled all in 3D (thank you once again Wozza, for all of your help in setting me straight several times throughout development!). :)

Perhaps I am an oddity, but even with in-depth system modeling, I never get much from it, since I always fly the aircraft to their exact specifications no matter what the case may be (using information gleaned over the years from original manuals and information on how pilots fly them today (which is generally smarter)), providing a teaching tool of sorts, between all of the vintage aircraft and warbirds I fly in FSX.

I get the most enjoyment with FSX, doing aerobatic displays with aircraft of this kind, working to improve every time I get a chance to play around with the sim. Nothing better, for me at the moment, than establishing 42-inches MP, 2500 RPM, and performing a display in the P-51D over a field like Duxford - cuban eights, roll reversals, loops, rolls, quarter-rolls, you name it.
 
Bomber_12th said:
Paul, I'm not sure exactly what I am to take from your post. First, I am very sorry that the exchange rate of 24.99 British Pounds is so dramatic in New Zealand dollars! Unfortunately we cannot simply lower the price to match each nation's exchange rate - it just couldn't work. And don't worry, I don't take your comments as a criticism either - though I am a bit confused over whether the price was the real point of your post, or if you're just trying to plug another's products - perhaps both (maybe a not so hidden bias)? ;)

The element of importance that I have in these aircraft is accuracy of visual models (to the Nth degree), though unfortunately I know that isn't always very important to all. For me, that is the only way to go. With this product we wanted to achieve something that no one has achieved before, and based on evidence seen, won't be achieved in the future, and I am 100% confident we have done so. If you truly care about how accurate the visuals are (and for that matter the sounds and flight dynamics too, to whom Mr. Albert Patrick deserves so much praise!), I guarantee you this is the Mustang, for now, and to come. I wish everyone could see the thousands of pages of documents that were used to finally create an accurate and authentic P-51D-20 and P-51D-30 for flight sim use (as well as an F-6D, NACA-modified P-51D-25, and P-51K-10, just to add those in!)! This included original drawings as used on the NAA shop floor to originally manufacture the aircraft, manuals of every kind, covering assembly, maintenance, operation, tech orders, field modifications, etc., expensive and hard to find publications over the past years covering every nook and cranny of the aircraft inside and out (not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of photos taken by Albert and I, from Mustangs in the UK and the states, inside and out), all allowing this aircraft to be made as accurate and authentic as it is. Add into this the exhaustive cross-referencing of both drawings and photos, for a given part, and having the approval of not just a couple of Mustang pilots, but the approval, and criticism, along the way, of the guys that know the aircraft the most, the restorers and maintainers! I really hope that these measures are appreciated, and at least most people actually care to note the accuracy you can clearly see when comparing this product to real life examples, past and present
- if not, I may just cry...:)
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It is my opinion, that this P-51 is the most accurately "shaped" P-51 of all available for FSX. The others, IMO just do not have that unique windscreen/canopy shape quite right, and it is for this reason, when I do get a P-51, accusim or not, it will most likely be this one. Theres also always room for another P-51 in the hangar......... :)
 
As a fellow Kiwi, I'll be buying it eventually as IMV this is the best Mustang out the moment, although I will play a waiting game and see what other models of the D (and repaints -RNZAF(?)) will be offered by Warbirdsim before I commit.

I don't really have much Sim time to play around with Accusim and I also like the idea of highly accurate models of restored warbirds as they seem to fit FSX better IMV. It will sit nicely in my hangar next to the Realair Spitfire and Lotus L-39.

Not sure how Paul paid NZ $50 for the B-17 with Accusim as from calcs the B-17 with Accusim equals NZ $100. As for exchange rates the pound to dollar ratio is actually very favourable for us Kiwis at the moment so no better time to buy than now.
 
Well I've been looking forward to the Warbirdsim P-51D just as much as the A2A version to be honest. The level of detail of John's Mustangs is nothing short of outstanding and they are well worth the money IMO. I'm also looking forward to seeing more repaints in the near future but as Happy Jack's Go Buggy is one of my favourite schemes I'm more than happy for now.
 
Having bought this excellent addon too, I'm having the feeling the plane seems very sensitive, twitchy to fly. Especially pitch. How are my fellow P-51 drivers feel about the flight model?

BTW my settings are all standard in FSX for joystick.

Otherwise, superb rendition of the looks of the P-51D, yaw dropping fine!
 
... just purchased, waiting for the download link.
Hopefully not too long to wait to fly this beauty in the FSX sky.
 
you won't regret it, one of the best looking birds there is.
And as I know you like them worn and torn as well:

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still wip, but getting there..
 
Fantastic aircraft, picked it up last night absolutely no problems with the purchase - email arrived straight away.

Took it for a flight this morning and it looks great, flies nicely and with them being restored birds with nav they seem like a good option for touring.

Still getting used to them though, seems a bit reluctant to get up to 350-400mph in level flight and won't do a loop with an entry speed below about 350mph, which seems perhaps a little high, but I don't know the real numbers for a P-51.
 
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