P36 exclusive screenshots

[Deano]

Thanks to Tim-HH we now have some nice in game screenshots of the P36 Hawk. Work is going well and we're in full flow now, so expect more updates of the forth coming weeks.

 

[b52bob]

BEAUTIFUL piece of work!

 

[Lewis-A2A]

The Precious! wants

 

[MCDesigns]

Wow, fantastic shots, love the shadowing/AO on the textures, are those baked?

 

[Warrant]

Sweeeeeeeet!

 

[Bomber_12th]

Dean, I am really looking forward to a FSX-native P-36, as I am a huge fan of the whole Hawk series of fighters! As a constructive piece of criticism however, the canopy and windscreen assemblies aren't quite right. Please compare the following photo, to the 5th photo in your post, and take into consideration the differences in proportions and shapes:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unti...22631/L/&sid=64e5ae383ea00b6fa2c3c55d58a01b50

Here is another showing the canopy shape from the front-quarter:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Curtiss-Hawk-75A-1/1396500/L/&sid=64e5ae383ea00b6fa2c3c55d58a01b50

I hope you understand where I am coming from, and I am only offering such advice so that the product can be the best it can. Unfortunately I don't have any detailed drawings at this time, of this area on the aircraft. Everything else looks very nice indeed!

Edit: By the way, it would be great to see a pre-war, USAAC scheme, with overall-polished metal, included with this product!

 

[Deano]

Dean, I am really looking forward to a FSX-native P-36, as I am a huge fan of the whole Hawk series of fighters! As a constructive piece of criticism however, the canopy and windscreen assemblies aren't quite right. Please compare the following photo, to the 5th photo in your post, and take into consideration the differences in proportions and shapes:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Unti...22631/L/&sid=64e5ae383ea00b6fa2c3c55d58a01b50

Here is another showing the canopy shape from the front-quarter:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Curtiss-Hawk-75A-1/1396500/L/&sid=64e5ae383ea00b6fa2c3c55d58a01b50

I hope you understand where I am coming from, and I am only offering such advice so that the product can be the best it can. Unfortunately I don't have any detailed drawings at this time, of this area on the aircraft. Everything else looks very nice indeed!

Edit: By the way, it would be great to see a pre-war, USAAC scheme, with overall-polished metal, included with this product!

thanks for the heads up. We will be releasing 10 schemes with the aircraft once released.

 

[Ken Stallings]

You know, I used to remember the running joke about "rivet counters." You know, the folks who would obsessively count the rivets, note their position, and say one was crooked.

Of course, it was meant in hyperbole to point out people who were being a bit unreasoned in their expectations.

Well, today, it seems the "unreasonable" has become the reality!

When I look at screenshots like that, I really think the rivets truly are all there, and in the right places, and there really isn't anything left to say in terms of want for the exteriors of these virtual aircraft.

And that rudder! I swear I feel like I can reach out and touch it doing a pre-flight! I just looked so real!

Ken

 

[Old Crow]

Holy Cow! That it Beautiful. :ernae: The P-36 is definately one of my all time favorites. Cannot wait to fly it. Wonderful work people!

 

[c87]

For the P36/Hawk 75 fans, the latest issue of Flight Journal magazine focuses on this airplane (more specifically, the French air forces in WWII that used the aircraft). There's a great shot of the airplane on the cover. And I'd have to agree that photos in the magazine show a rounder front windshield at the top portion than what's conveyed in the screenshots. I have to say though that that model looks superb.

 

[Scratch]

Dean, I am really looking forward to a FSX-native P-36, as I am a huge fan of the whole Hawk series of fighters! As a constructive piece of criticism however, the canopy and windscreen assemblies aren't quite right. Please compare the following photo, to the 5th photo in your post, and take into consideration the differences in proportions and shapes:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untitled-(The-Fighter/Curtiss-H-75A-1-Hawk/1522631/L/&sid=64e5ae383ea00b6fa2c3c55d58a01b50

Here is another showing the canopy shape from the front-quarter:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Curtiss-Hawk-75A-1/1396500/L/&sid=64e5ae383ea00b6fa2c3c55d58a01b50

Hmm......I'm not so sure. I think we need to see more screenshots.

 

[Bomber_12th]

Dean, I just want to make sure that I don't sound like your 'ordinary pest', or anything. For the casual simmer, or for someone simply giving the work a nod (which I could be inclined to do as well, since it a very beautifully done rendition) it would be a waist of time to go back and redo anything that has already been done.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
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There are some very clear photos of the windscreen construction, and I especially like how, per this being a French example, some of the placards/stencils are written in French, even onto the canopy crank assembly. The overall impression of the cockpit is quite similar to a P-40B/C pit, looking very "1930's".

C87, I too have that magazine, and agree that it provides some great photos and a bit of history on the Hawk 75 heritage.

 

[Murray Cod]

looking at the title of the thread didn't get me excited, but HOLY COW that is one great looking model. I might have to add it to my hangar after all.

 

[rsgunner]

That is outstanding!

Russ

 

[Ken Stallings]

Dean, I just want to make sure that I don't sound like your 'ordinary pest', or anything. For the casual simmer, or for someone simply giving the work a nod (which I could be inclined to do as well, since it a very beautifully done rendition) it would be a waist of time to go back and redo anything that has already been done.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
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I'm sure you and your developers have already seen this page, and those like it, but just incase you haven't, these photos should really help out in the creation of the interior:<o></o>
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There are some very clear photos of the windscreen construction, and I especially like how, per this being a French example, some of the placards/stencils are written in French, even onto the canopy crank assembly. The overall impression of the cockpit is quite similar to a P-40B/C pit, looking very "1930's".

C87, I too have that magazine, and agree that it provides some great photos and a bit of history on the Hawk 75 heritage.

You certainly have an eye for detail!

Your photos show the situation quite accurately.

Ken

 

[ryanbatc]

The Precious! wants

lol, One "Card" to Rule Them All

Ooh, looks really nice, is this the same company that's making that SBD?

 

[stiz]

very nice!!

by the way dean, an avro anson or airspeed oxford would be great if you dont know what to build next

 

[OBIO]

Since my computer can't run FSX....and there is little hope of having a system that will run FSX for quite a long while...I am simply going to say:

That is the absolute worst rendition of a P-36 I have ever seen. The details are all wrong, the wheels are on backward, the pilot is cross-eyed, the plug wires are too short, the glove box is full of old McDonalds ketchup packets, the left turn signals don't blink at the correct rhythm, and there are 12 rivets in the wrong spot.

Of course, I am just showing my total envy of you folks who can run FSX and who will get to fly this work of art and see those details time and time again. Superb workmanship and attention to detail! I agree with Ken Stallings in that it seemed like one could reach out and touch this plane...so very life like, so tactile.

OBIO

 

[warchild]

afraid the canopy does appear incorrect.. But, its an easy mistake to make.. not so easy to correct sometimes.. But you see, at that period in history, there existed three planes.. The model 75 which in america was the P-36. The A-36 and the A-37. Ther P-36 was made by curtiss, the A-36 was made bu north american, and the A-37 was made by curtiss.. The A-36 went on to become the P-51. it had a semi rectangular canopy frame around the windscreen, The A-37 went on to become the P-40 with its curved bent tubing for a canopy frame. However, in different ways, each of these planes resembled each other.. This is most likely the reason for the continuing debate as to which aircraft inspired the design of what other aircraft.. I can say that the way the canopy is currently modeled, is much harder to do in max, than simply taking a tube and bending it in the middle which is pretty much what curtiss did..

Now, what maintains a question in my mind, and therefore keeps me from pronouncing the shape incorrect is the fith and sixth photographs on this page.
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/URG/p36hawk.html
here you can clearly see the odd shap of the windscreen frame from the side and front left quarter. Rather than a simple bent tube, the frame comes up, then flattens out and curves forward around the top of the windscreen. The rest of the canopy frame is composed of bent tubing, but that first one is far more complex. Easy to do with a welding jig, but not the easiest to do in 3D..

Please remember too, that this is an alpha model.. At a time when another plane is due for release, it was rushed through so my people could start doing what they do best, which is making it sit and fly right..

 

[warchild]

Holy Cow! That it Beautiful. :ernae: The P-36 is definately one of my all time favorites. Cannot wait to fly it. Wonderful work people!

Old crow,
Glad to hear that.. We're pretty sure we have the engine dialed in, and the basic flight model is ready to move to beta testing now.. I'll be honest. its a blast to fly. We're still trying to dial in its stall and spin. The P-36 had a rather nasty stall/spin entry thats been quite challenging. but my lead tester has promised me that he'll drive me completely nuts if need be to get it right..