Plane Design Spitfire problem

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mrogers

SOH-CM-2023
Just recently I thought I would take my Plane Design spitfire up for a flight as I hadn't flown it in the sim for a long time. It won't load into FS9, when I select it and I go to start the flight, FS9 throws up a box saying that "FS9 has encountered a problem and needs to close" then FS9 shuts down to the desktop. It's a total mystery to me as I've not had a problem with it at all before. I uninstalled it and then reinstalled it but no the same thing happened again. All my other aircraft work fine, so I don't know what would be causing this to happen. I checked the spitfire gauges to see if it was a conflict between it and something in FS but it's not the gauges, it seems to be something else.Has anyone come across something similiar?
 
I had the same issue, and then ran the update (I think) called PDSpitfire16 v1.01.exe over the install which fixed it.
 
Hi Mark,

The aircraft does have custom coding, and whilst I don't get a crash, on my system the turbocharger doesn't kick in above 14,000ft probably due to a conflict with something else on my system.

I know that some planes don't like being used to start FS2004 - do you get the same problem if you load FS2004 using the default Cessna (the original Default Flight) and then, when FS2004 has fully loaded, select the Spitfire XVI ?

Edit: Is the update included in the PD website download (http://www.plane-design.com/spitfire.html) or can someone tell me where i can get it ? Maybe it will solve my problem as well.

Alastair
 
Ahh...thanks Wing_Z, I don't think I've got the update. I think I'd better look for it. Where does one get it from? Perhaps It's a re-downloadable version an updated installer?

Yes, Alastair, I tried that approach with the Plane Design spitfire, but it didn't work. Only one other plane out of the lot I have, has to have the default cessna loaded first. It is the FSD Piper Saratoga. Works fine if I take that approach. Odd really as I have 3 other FSD planes that load straight into FS9 with no problem. If I try to load it first, same thing happens as with the PD spitfire. I contacted FSD and they were unable to work out why this happened. To me it seems to be related to the gauges yet it will load into fs9 fine if I select the default cessna first for a start.

Edit: I just had a look, I've already got v1.01 installed....
 
I seem to remember that I had an issue like that and solved it by commenting out the gauge that created the drop tank sound. I'll have a look at my cfg files and see if I can identify anything.
 
I looked on the Plane Design website and didn't see any mention of an update for the Spitfire. I looked at my install program and it lists out as version 1 only, so I'm assuming it's not an updated version... but I have never experienced any issues with the model to this point. I have never had the Spitfire much higher than 8500 feet so I don't know if the supercharger will kick on as it is supposed to. I'll have to take it up and wring it out... just to see.

I also noticed that in the FAQ and Update section on the PD website, that it mentioned about FSX as not yet being released. I think the site might be a bit overdue for an update.

BB686:USA-flag:
 
Can't help with the Spit as I don't have that one, but I have the same issue with the FSD Saratoga and the Avanti.
I usually save my flight at the end of a days flying and continue from there at the next start. If either of those two planes are my last ride, I have to remember to switch to something else before saving my flight or FS goes nuts on the next start.

I think it has something to do with the FSD loadmaster utility which also keeps track of your maintenance timers.

:ernae:
Stefan
 
Blackbird686 said:
I looked on the Plane Design website and didn't see any mention of an update for the Spitfire.......

I also noticed that in the FAQ and Update section on the PD website, that it mentioned about FSX as not yet being released. I think the site might be a bit overdue for an update.

BB686:USA-flag:
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I purchased my copy from SimMarket, and it's definitely listed as v1.01. But as with Blackbird I can't recall having any issues with it - and this thread has reminded me that I still haven't reinstalled her since the new PC was built.

I'm really not sure that Plane Design are active developers any longer, as the last update was back in 2008. I do recall that they suffered very badly from their products being pirated & they were talking about the financial viability of continuing - whether they had a change of mind I can't remember, this was back in the days when I frequented CBFSIM.
 
I recently re-installed the model, from the original installer that I got from PD for the Spitfire, back in 2008. It was on my back-up HD. I purchased it from Flight1 Software, I believe. I have never had an issue with it.

If you go to the PD website and select the Spitfire for purchase, I believe it will re-direct you to another site for purchase. Not sure

BB686:USA-flag:
 
alastairmonk said:
Hi Mark,

The aircraft does have custom coding, and whilst I don't get a crash, on my system the turbocharger doesn't kick in above 14,000ft probably due to a conflict with something else on my system.

Alastair
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Make sure the "Auto Mixture" is turned off in the FS9 Realism settings, before you fly the PD Spit. Otherwise the engine generates too much power. That may or may not be the issue with the supercharger.

BB686:USA-flag:
 
*sigh* I don't know what the problem could be with the PD spitfire causing the shutdown to desktop on starting a flight with it. I'll have to examine it bit by bit and see what could be causing it. What I might do is remove one by one specific gauges by commenting out them. The thing is, I had no problem with it before until now. I've had the latest version since day one of purchase.
 
mrogers said:
*sigh* I don't know what the problem could be with the PD spitfire causing the shutdown to desktop on starting a flight with it. I'll have to examine it bit by bit and see what could be causing it. What I might do is remove one by one specific gauges by commenting out them. The thing is, I had no problem with it before until now. I've had the latest version since day one of purchase.
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OK, coming at the problem from a different direction - you say it used to work, but now it doesn't? The problem probably isn't with the PD Spitfire then; have you installed anything recently, as that may be causing a conflict?
 
I wouldn't have a clue. I've installed so many different A/C and scenery into FS9 in the whole time I didn't fly the PD spitfire. Hadn't flown it for 2 years or more. I could remove most of them I guess and work from there finding out which of them causes a conflict. Could be a gauge, module or something else.
 
Module would be my first guess - it could be that something else you've installed has put an old version of something onto your system. Try checking fssound.dll, gaugesound.dll and FSUIPC, they have caused me trouble in the past.
 
mrogers said:
I have FSUIPC. What kind of trouble did you have with it?
I'll have a look at these modules.
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You'll probably find you have all three of those; I had a problem with FSUIPC recently, in that I reinstalled an older model and it automatically installed an older version of FSUIPC which caused all sorts of crashes - luckily I have several FS9 installs (different periods) so was able to recopy a up to date version of the registered .dll, which solved the problem. Check the main page here to ensure you have the latest version (and I notice that they've updated again, so I shall be downloading when I get home!!).
 
They're all there in their respective places...checked them, heres some info on them..
FSSound.dll ver1.5.0.2 11/11/2001
GaugeSound.dll 1/3/2003

I have a spare FS9 backup copy on my external drive...same versions.

Haven't updated FSUIPC for ages, so I'd better go download it and update!
 
I've updated FSUIPC...no joy with the PD spitfire still.
FSUIPC has updated a few of its own bugs though...
 
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