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PMDG DC-6 and search

Well, this ol' Flying Dutchman not so much flying anymore. It's the Swimming Dutchman now...

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Yes, it's Ok more or less start on the runway ready to go (flaps work with a key assignment, not flaps handle) but there's all sorts of secondary stuff not working and after a pause *everything* is not working anymore, luckily we could still swim to the shore.. ;-)

It's now at the top of my 2024 wish list for PMDG to get it 100% FS2024 compatible ! Even not working correctly the quality is still unsurpassed ! (IMHO) The flight dynamics deffinately have that typical 'Rob Young feeling' . He might not be on the crew list but he's on board, i know it, i feel it.
 
Hollister56: Did you land yet?

Nope ... ;-)

I need more time to test. Atm flaps not working anymore. There seems to be a workaround by binding the flaps to prop control but atm i can't figure out how to go about that trick.

What i *can* say is that i have working flaps with the Shrike F-86 (latest version) both with a lever on my stick and also via keyboard (flapslever on board doesn't work). Like the DC-6 this bird flies like an angel in 2024.
 
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Javis. I agree the Shrike F-86 flies very well in FS2024 and everyhing worrks with version 1.1.1. Including the flaps now with this latest version. It is my go to airplane. All of my paints for the F-86 that worked in FS2020 do not work in FS2024. Not sure why at the moment? Still looking into it as time allows. I wish and hope they get the DC-6 working in FS2024, that is a beautiful airplane and PMDG really produced a great airplane when they created their DC-6. Back to the F-86, I modified the system.cfg file and have an autopilot that I use FSRadioPanel to work it. I also have the PNS-50 program too. The Inibuild T-33 is a really nice jet too, especially the one with the Garmin G3X. I'm going to move my DC-6 into the Community folder and see what happens. How did you install it into FS2024 if I may ask?
 
The F-86 and T-33 are about my most fav 50's jets (together with my 'SectionF8' colleagues we did a freeware F-86 for FS9 and i was working on the T2V-1 Seastar ( Lockheed's seagoing T-33 derivative capable of carrier operations) when MSFS2020 arrived and all my work gone to the dogs...:dejection:) (luckily i love dogs ;-) Milviz/Shrike's F-86 is a true wonder, i can't think of another dev making a better one. That goes for the Inibuilds T-33 as well. Fantastic job ! (i know i can forget about the Seastar, that's why i started my own T2V-1/T-1 project. I presume it's just a too niche and rather unkown aircraft for a dev to warrant a full MSFS2024 project. It is just about a total different mermaid compared to her T-33 mother ).

It is certainly a pity that your FS2020 F-86 liveries won't work in 2024, are you planning a compatibility project for your F-86 repaints ?

I think, apart from the texture malaise, we should call ourselves lucky to have such a wonderful looking and flying F-86 model in MSFS2024 today ! Still some work to do ( f.i. trimming does work but rather strange...) but it's the best start we could wish for. The PMDG DC-6 is sadly enough another kettle of fish. I always end up frustrated after a test flight. No wonder with the flaps not working of course. Frustrating thing is that some days ago the flaps *did* work but atm they don't. Curious about your experience !

I just copied and paste the complete FS2020 DC-6 folder to my FS2024 Community folder and there she is..... Apparently looking fantastic inside and out, upon engines start sounding quite well too (i can imagine gonna be a lot better once it's in the PMDG hangar for 2024 overhaul..) but it doesn't take long to find that there's a lotta bugs zooming around in the amazing looking cockpit ( i was granted access to a L-749 Connie for a while which was used for bug spraying years ago. I could only stay in the cockpit for 10 minutes before i got completely sick of the unthinkable foul stench that was probabely impossible to ever get rid of. I have never understood how the crew that flew this particular bug sprayer from the US to the Netherlands for restoration survived this trip !

Btw, she belongs to the Aviodrome Museum at Lelystad, Netherlands. Probabely will not fly again but it is said that the stench is just about gone. ;-)

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Unhelpful to say that the DC6 works pretty well on my rig. Many have said and I agree that it flys better in 2024. I live ion a remote colony where the DC6 still flys on a daily basis. I have a number of friends with quite a bit of time in the six. Somewhat of a ground effect plane compared to the jets. All that said everything changes with each sim update, advertised or not. It's coming slowly, though PMDG has maybe more irons in the fire currently than they can handle.
 
Thanks Fliger ! You mean your flap handle *does* work ? It never worked here in my DC-6 VC but all of sudden the flaps worked via a handle on my stick and with a key binding as well. Next time not anymore.... That's awfully strange, isn't it. It's kind of a tantalus torture, it's an absolute gorgeous model inside and out but you can't fly it because the flaps don't work. And more very strange things too, f.i. after i pause the sim and come back literally nothing works anymore... You don't have that awkward behavior then, Fliger ?

'Remote colony' and DC-6..... so that must be Afrika or South America, right ?... ;-)

Thanks :encouragement:
 
Hello Javis,
Yes, I certainly do remember the Section 8, F-86. It was an amazing release and for free. Thanks btw for your efforts in that project. Shrike did a nice job, but I wish they put in a little more time to model some of the systems and offer an advanced avionics package like Inibuilds T-33.
I also remember the MAAM, B-25 and C-47. Did they do an TBF Avenger? Can't remember. Those were amazing airplanes. I wish we had a good B-25 and C-47 for FS2024. Since I'm wishing, PMDG can do a L749 and L1049 and L1649, either of the three would be fine, a DC-3 and a Convair 340 too. I did install the DC-6 in FS2024 and it flies like a dream. I assigned all of the gyropilot functions via FSUIPC via Rotor_Brake to the toggle switches on the back of my CH Throttle Quadrent. It flies a beautiful coupled up ILS approach down to minimums. The flaps work fine assigned to the native FS2024 flaps key bind. The only issue is getting the PMDG paints or Liveries to work as in FS2020. I have the Pan Am paint as default. Remember CalClassic. or California Classics? I'm sure you do, silly question. http://www.calclassic.com/ We are so lucky PMDG did the DC-6. It is a masterpiece and a tribute to all the talented people over there at PMDG. So far I haven't experienced any real issues with just a copy and paste install. Keeping fingers crossed nothing changes. BTW do you have any issues getting different liveries to work in FS2024? MAAM is doing an incredible job on their P-61 restoration. https://maam.org/the-widows-web/ Thanks, Ed
 

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Hello Javis,
Yes, I certainly do remember the Section 8, F-86. It was an amazing release and for free. Thanks btw for your efforts in that project. Shrike did a nice job, but I wish they put in a little more time to model some of the systems and offer an advanced avionics package like Inibuilds T-33.
With my SectionF8 project i had the audacity to put the whole F-86 family into the pipeline. Pure out of enthusiasm but completely unrealistic of course....hehe..Yes, (almost) nothing would suit me better than a Shrike 'Extravaganza' edition of their marvelous F-86 including in the first place automatic leading edge slats for the the A, E and later F versions to improve low speed performance ( both Hansi Naegle and Rob Young did a superb job on that with our own FS9 Sabre), along with that how about a D and K version and 2 types of Fury.... Now, with FS2024, even more ultra unrealistic. Too bad, huh...
I also remember the MAAM, B-25 and C-47. Did they do an TBF Avenger? Can't remember. Those were amazing airplanes. I wish we had a good B-25 and C-47 for FS2024.
Thanks Ed, yessir, we did the TBM and TBF Avenger as well. Like with the others it was extremely great fun to work on that beast simply because we got to crawl all over it inside and out and pilot boss Strine could explain every inside and out to Rob about flying it (fun fact: unconventional take off: no flaps, full power, at about 80 kts (maybe less, can't remember..) drop down full flaps all at once and the ol' Turkey will leap into the air right away). I think somewhere somehow a B-25 must be in the pipeline for FS2024. I believe there's nobody in the aviation hobby department who doesn't have some kind of feel for the B-25. I know many call it the most beautiful warbird ever, even some tubeliner fans... ;-) There's gonna be a B-25 for FS2024 come hell or highwater, maybe even still this year, believe me...( there's quite a bit of work involved but quite a bit of money too ! Devs *know* that !....;-)
Since I'm wishing, PMDG can do a L749 and L1049 and L1649, either of the three would be fine, a DC-3 and a Convair 340 too.
Yeah, that's one heck of wishlist, Ed ! ;-)

Must say i was just a tiny bit dissapointed with the A2A L-049, in the first place because they left it at that. It wouldn't have been that much work to develop atleast the L-749 from the 049 base model. I was also never able to disregard the little bit of smell of 'rush' particularly in the VC. While the A2A B-17 belonged at the top of aircraft modeling during the FS9/FSX periods the A2A Connie always felt a bit short, IMHO of course.

Manfred Jahn's Connies and DC-3/C-47 were at the top of the freeware department during those days. Still Wow!! ;-)

Big fan of the Convairliner family. Pitifully neglected after a few very nice models from the earlier era of FS. ( i was particularly at awe with a CV-240 model by Belgian gentleman modeller Pierre Ardichvilli, he was ( sadly i lost contact with him already many years ago, i worked with Pierre in the 'VIP Classic Wings' team during the FS95/FS2K period ) both a superb modeller as well as a texture artist and a great inspiration on top of that. His CV-240 model in bare aluminium and AA livery was truly a sight to behold certainly in those days already (resembled Greg Pepper's CV-240 model (California Classics) of course but i always thought Pierre's model was much more refined)

Still blatantly missing in FSX i thought that's it, there's GOT to be a Convairliner in FSX, it's now or never ! Well, i certainly started with 'now' but again pitifully still ended with 'never' due to the arrival of MSFS2020... This's all that's left :

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While i was very happy and very enthusiastic working on one of my first native FSX models ( i had 3 others in the FSX pipeline) i am sorry to say that i haven't got the stamina anymore to get it into our new virtual flying toys.


I did install the DC-6 in FS2024 and it flies like a dream. I assigned all of the gyropilot functions via FSUIPC via Rotor_Brake to the toggle switches on the back of my CH Throttle Quadrent. It flies a beautiful coupled up ILS approach down to minimums. The flaps work fine assigned to the native FS2024 flaps key bind. The only issue is getting the PMDG paints or Liveries to work as in FS2020. I have the Pan Am paint as default. Remember CalClassic. or California Classics? I'm sure you do, silly question. http://www.calclassic.com/ We are so lucky PMDG did the DC-6. It is a masterpiece and a tribute to all the talented people over there at PMDG. So far I haven't experienced any real issues with just a copy and paste install. Keeping fingers crossed nothing changes.

Amazing what you say about the DC-6 on *your* system, Ed ! That's like we're talking about two different models ! Because overhere MSFS2024 keeps on acting strangely, i just can't depend on it acting the same as it did yesterday.... One day it seems like nothing much is wrong the next day i can't even get an engine started, that's why it's no use doing some serious 'flying' in 2024. All i can do is see what happens today... If i want to do a more or less serious flight it has to be FS2020.

I could try and install FSUIPC but i have not much confidence it will solve all the funny quirks i encounter. I think i can say i'm just fooling around with 2024 atm, just like i feel it is fooling around with me. ;-) Not that i *don't* like FS2024, i *love* it, the way the aircraft models look and the scenery and every now and then i can even enjoy a flight from take-off to landing without anything going wrong. But that's usually in one of my fav simple biplanes. I'll wait and see what happens with the DC-6 once i have SU3 installed, if it's still as unreliable as it is now i might wipe my MSFS2024 install off of my SSD and start over new. Maybe something i should've done already..
BTW do you have any issues getting different liveries to work in FS2024?

You can understand with the current issues i have with 2024 sofar i haven't even thought about trying repaints or anything like that.

Btw, that's a fine screeny of the PMDG DC-6 you've got there, Ed ! I'm sure i'll enjoy flying the DC-6 without any issues sooner or later too !

In ending, Oh-Yes, MAAM is doing an incredible job at restoring the P-61 ! Almost unbelievable, isn't ! An almost desintegrated wreckage rescued from the brutal claws of the unforgiving jungle to a brandnew P-61 in the works ! Totally amazing !! If only Maam-Sim was still around....
Cheers,
Jan
 
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