PMDG DC-6 and search

[Javis]

The current Connie seems to work okay in FS2024, though I've only done quick circuits with it. Redwing said a native FS2024 conversion is planned later this year.

I think i have to really tone down my more or less hars comment above regarding the Red Wing Connie. Only excuse might be that the tests i did with the initial model and one of the first updates are already from a year ago if not more ( in MSFS2020 ) and that i kinda lost interest in it. I followed your comment above and loaded my FS2020 version into FS2024 and must say i was quite surprised with what i saw ! My mouth fell open a bit already viewing the model in the 2024 hangar ( where did the abillity go to view a model in the 360 degrees aspect ?..).

I did already know that the external model is quite well done with a few quirks here and there to iron out ( the vibration/shaking of the prop hubs gives this otherwise majestic looking Super Connie immidiately a cheapish appearance. I'd say do away with the animation and replace with a static hub, the spinning props will give the illusion that the hubs are spinning too), but looking at it now here in the 2024 hangar Wow!! Sure didn't expect that !

Love your enthusiasm for it, Javis! I think realistically you might have more fun if you temper your expectations, though.

In case of the Connie you might have a good point there, Denny. ;-) I had a quick look at the Connie version from probabely more than a year ago in MSFS2024 and was much more impressed than i thought i would be. I'll certainly do some serious testing now and and see if i can find more updates. One thing i noticed already is that there must be a problem with the sound, particularly internal. I'll look into it (try it in 2020 again).

Sadly a lot of the market for study-level planes seems to be boring FMS/auto-everything modern airliners. Not sure if there's be a big enough market for a detailed L.049 with Redwing's already available. I'd love to be wrong! I wish A2A would get back into classic planes.

If only that could be true ! ( fat chance i guess, like the real world our virtual world has obviously changed a lot too.. for better or worse, who can tell...) Still, we have the immaculate PMDG DC-6 as a perfect example of what can be done within the field of proplining for any dev with a heart for
these beautiful legends to think about. Surely there still must be one or two around... ;-) It's not like the RW Connie (the version that i have) can now stand in the DC-6's shadow but unlike my earlier comments i can say i am quite happy with what i see now ! Kudos Red Wing ! Keep on it !

 

[DennyA]

And the PMDG DC-6 may be an unreasonable standard for classic aircraft, as PMDG has hemmed and hawed about whether they'll be doing a native 2024 update for it, which implies sales too low to justify it.

I totally get wanting planes you love in as much detail as possible. I feel the same way about getting a T-34!

At the same time, I miss the days when standards allowed Alphasim to crank out medium-detail, low-priced niche warbirds every month or two. I'd much rather have a medium-detail F7U Cultass, F3H Demon, A-5 Vigilante, A-3 Skywarrior, and F4D Skyray than one modern passenger turborprop with every hydraulic line pressure accurately simulated to the millibar and textures that still look sharp with your nose against the panel. But alas, we seem to have a market that wants the latter.

 

[Dave43H]

i looked on the pmdg website, i was hoping for the B-737, but they hae on both in capitol letters, it is not compatible with fs2024. i didnt find anything that said anything like " we are working on an upgrade to 2024,,, so im wondering if it didnt sell, i mean both AC, well enough for them to want to upgrade them? i mean 70 bucks for a simulation of an aircraft is pretty steep (thats only MY opinion) for me anyway to pay,, how much could it possibly cost to update what they already have? or would they have to basically start from scratch? do these "companies" pay for outside developers/computer guru's and so on? is that where the cost come from?
its things like this that i wished martin shupe was still around, but i remember him saying something to the effect of he was burnt out.

 

[Dave43H]

And the PMDG DC-6 may be an unreasonable standard for classic aircraft, as PMDG has hemmed and hawed about whether they'll be doing a native 2024 update for it, which implies sales too low to justify it.

I totally get wanting planes you love in as much detail as possible. I feel the same way about getting a T-34!

At the same time, I miss the days when standards allowed Alphasim to crank out medium-detail, low-priced niche warbirds every month or two. I'd much rather have a medium-detail F7U Cultass, F3H Demon, A-5 Vigilante, A-3 Skywarrior, and F4D Skyray than one modern passenger turborprop with every hydraulic line pressure accurately simulated to the millibar and textures that still look sharp with your nose against the panel. But alas, we seem to have a market that wants the latter.

boy Denny, we are on the same page on that.

 

[Javis]

And the PMDG DC-6 may be an unreasonable standard for classic aircraft, as PMDG has hemmed and hawed about whether they'll be doing a native 2024 update for it, which implies sales too low to justify it.

Yeah, that would be truly ashame, wouldn't it ! They can't do that to us, can they ! Ever since FS2020 i lost interest in PMDG so i don't know anything about the hemming and hawing that you speak of but i *do* know that the DC-6 was the big pet project of boss Randazzo so i am sticking a bit to that regarding faith in a native FS2024 version although possibly against my better judgement...

Still, i also *do* believe that if PMDG decides against a native 2024 edition of this no doubt never to be matched rendition of a DC-6, it would be the biggest crime ever comitted in our beloved virtual flying world ! Call the Air Marshal !

I totally get wanting planes you love in as much detail as possible. I feel the same way about getting a T-34!

Well, me too ! About my fav singleprop in FS9 (not sure about FSX, loooong time ago..). After Carenado released their Bonanza i wrote them a thank you email with a note on the side what they would think about a T-34 derived from their fine Bonanza. Just for fun and the heck of it, we have a saying here that goes "No you have, Yes you can get". Much to my surprise and pleasure they wrote back "we're working on it " ! ;-)

Seriously hope we get to see it sooner or later in FS2024 !

At the same time, I miss the days when standards allowed Alphasim to crank out medium-detail, low-priced niche warbirds every month or two. I'd much rather have a medium-detail F7U Cultass, F3H Demon, A-5 Vigilante, A-3 Skywarrior, and F4D Skyray than one modern passenger turborprop with every hydraulic line pressure accurately simulated to the millibar and textures that still look sharp with your nose against the panel. But alas, we seem to have a market that wants the latter.

Yes, "those were the days" weren't they. Just having fun 'toying around' weren't we. I think i can say i had a subscription to Alphasim models ;-)

Say, Denny, did you know about a guy called Pierre Lheureux ? He was THE texture artist pur sang in those days. He did many Alphasim models and turned them into expensive looking payware models just with his superb and outstanding texture work.





Just two examples of his extraordinairy texture work (mind you, this is about 15 years ago !.... ;-)

Imagine a Demon, Cutlass or Skyray in IFE/Heatblur quality in MSFS2024 ! (if we pray enough it *could* still happen, you know ! ;-)

 

[FlameOut]

I remember that name: Pierre Lheureux and his fantastic work

- Don

 

[Paul K]

I also remember Pierre and his A-3 and B-47 repaints. I believe he is no longer with us.

Re. PMDG's DC-6; Last time I read RSR's update post, the DC-6 update for MSFS2024 is on hold until SU3 is finalised, along with the SDK. Something to do with LODs if IRC. ( Sorry for all the initialisms - I'm actually starting to talk like that now. )

 

[Hollister56]

Say, Ed, what about the Red Wing Connie and MSFS2024 ? Does it work ??.....

Hello Javis, at least for me the RW Connie works with a simple copy and paste into the community folder of FS2024, although the autopilot trim wheel will not function, but you can AI handle the climb after you get done hand flying it and decide to put it on autopilot. That will take care of the rest of your climb to your cruising level or altitude.

Are you talking about the MSFS2024 version ??.... What do you mean with 'AI features' ?..

The AI features are the same as the PMDG AI flight engineer, but with the RW Connie they simulate all 3 positions which are selectable, meaning you can just use the FE, or all 3, Capt, FO and FE all working together. It really is pretty cool and you can just be an observer in the jumpseat and watch all the magic happen. It's all there on their clipboard. I fly it almost everyday along with the DC-6. The L-1049 had a great feel to it when hand flown. I've never flown a Connie, but I can imagine it's pretty close to the real thing. The PMDG flies pretty nicely too.

Sure, if it would be in the same league as the PMDG DC-6, i'd kiss the ground that the dev walks on but since that is nowhere near the case i'll have to leave the RW Connie in the hangar.

The RW Connie is in version 2.5 and that is the only version I've flown, it was a recent purchase a few weeks ago. I was the same way as you, when I looked at the reviews, the eariler versions were not even close to the PMDG DC-6, but after watching a few videos that are available on YouTube that highlighted the newer version, since I really love the Connie too, I had to buy it and give it a go. I am very happy to say, at least to me, it flies as well as the PMDG DC-6 and actually has some more advanced features than the DC-6. I am flying it in FS2024 only and rarely fire up FS2020 now. I agree a L-749 would be great, but RW, I believe, will not be offereing that version. I am just very happy they say they are working on a FS2024 version, along with other improvements. The last I heard on the PMDG DC-6 with Robert R on YouTube that they were working on the FS2024 port or making it compatible with FS2024. On my system their DC-6 actually flies fine, but there are a couple of system quirks that you need to figure out, but all in all it's not bad at all. AFA the RW Connie, it's the only Connie out there, so I guess we have to be very grateful to RW for sticking with their Connie and continuing to improve it and not just letting it sit out in the weeds.

Still of course the best ever L.049 Connie we've ever had in our virtual flying world although Manfred Jahn's amazing freeware external collection of various Connie versions could easily match A2A's. If Manfred would've provided a VC of the very same quality as his external models it could've very well turned out that we would've never seen A2A's L. 049.....

Yes, I do remember Manfred Jahn's Connies and had them all installed. I believe we used the DC-6 cockpit from CalClassics, but that is going back too many years for me to remember, and I don't think I used VC at that time, just the 2D cockpits. Cal Classic was great back in the day.

 

[Hollister56]

Sadly a lot of the market for study-level planes seems to be boring FMS/auto-everything modern airliners.

That maybe true Dennis. Just look at all the time, resources and effort PMDG put into their B737 series, offering users 4 different versions. 600, 700, 800, and 900. They are doing the same for their 777 fleet and still haven't released a B747-400 in FS2020 or FS2024. Do people really need 4 different versions of a B737, don't ask me, but PMDG seems to think so, if I was boss, which I'm not, well, I guess I am the Captain in my virtural world, LOL, I would have just released one version of each initially, and used those resources for other projects. I heard they are working on a B-747 Classic, but after flying the B747-400, I would never want to go back to the Classic. Speaking of Classics, I'm with Javis, I'd love to see more Propliners represented in FS2024, as FS2024 is the future and I hope at least for now ,that this is the last major version and all they'll do, meaning Asobo will just keep updating this version, so developers don't have to go though this crazy boondoggle of porting all their airplanes over to another new FS version.

 

[Paul K]

The latest ( 6th August ) update on the DC-6 from RSR:

PMDG DC-6 for MSFS2024:
We are still hopeful that we will see the required LOD fixes in MSFS 2024 that will unlock releasing this product to you in MSFS 2024. While the airplane itself runs really well, visually it is a horror show of LOD problems that don't seem to want to be fixed by the usual hacks that all of us have gotten used to in the 2020/2024 dev community. It would be supremely enjoyable if the LOD fixes that have been so desperately needed would arrive so that we could roll this airplane out to you... As soon as that happens, we shall.

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