As the title suggests
The 3rd version of the classic 747 has been released
https://www.precisionmanuals.com/index.html
The 3rd version of the classic 747 has been released
https://www.precisionmanuals.com/index.html
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PMDG Queen of the skies V3 released
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Ian Warren
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YEP! .. I'll be saving for this now , a whooping Great $186.00NZ , it would have to be a goodie , you would wanta make sure you live in it for the next two years
, after all its not an UGBUST , it is the true 'Queen of the Skies' 
, after all its not an UGBUST , it is the true 'Queen of the Skies' 
Peg o my heart
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Queen of the Sky-rocketing price
scotth6
Charter Member
Fair enough it's a top product, but I find it unbelievable the amount of people on the Avsim/PMDG forums thanking and KTA of PMDG for their "Ultra reasonable" and "cheap" pricing. There were actually people saying that it should cost more. Lets see if the all the other aircraft developers start following suit again.
I felt embarrassed for these people when I read those forums today. I wish I hadn't.
I felt embarrassed for these people when I read those forums today. I wish I hadn't.
wombat666
Administrator
Couldn't agree more, especially when the A$ is struggling to stay at around US$00.75.
Throw in the Banks 'Overseas Transaction Fees' (aka 'Theft') and a US$100.00 aircraft works out to somewhere North of A$140.00 ............... this is just an update of an elderly (albeit good) product.
I'd be sorely tempted if this were a DC6 or DC7 but not for another bloody B747.
Throw in the Banks 'Overseas Transaction Fees' (aka 'Theft') and a US$100.00 aircraft works out to somewhere North of A$140.00 ............... this is just an update of an elderly (albeit good) product.
I'd be sorely tempted if this were a DC6 or DC7 but not for another bloody B747.
Spikehughes
Charter Member
Gasping for air
Yes .. $185 NZ Dollars .. that is kinda in the gasp range of an occasional flying hobby. So its a detailed Simulation highly accurate and fully 3D rendered - Great. Good for training except very few professional pilots are going to be using this as a training tool given most airlines have retired or are retiring their 744 fleets. So who is it aimed at .. clearly the heavy hobby enthusiast who wants a near as possible full simulation of what it is like to fly a real 744. Unless money is no obstacle,you get the one version FSX or PD3. for me that would mean FSX Acceleration version, but if I upgrade to PD3 I would need to pay over again if I finally bite the bullet and port from FSX to PD3 (which I have yet to do).. So for me this is sadly a no buy at the moment as much as I would enjoy flying it. A real pity PMDG financial returns modelling didn't suggest a lower price point entry to sell a lot more of them ... just saying
Meantime, back to giving the iFly 747 serious consideration once more... sigh.
Yes .. $185 NZ Dollars .. that is kinda in the gasp range of an occasional flying hobby. So its a detailed Simulation highly accurate and fully 3D rendered - Great. Good for training except very few professional pilots are going to be using this as a training tool given most airlines have retired or are retiring their 744 fleets. So who is it aimed at .. clearly the heavy hobby enthusiast who wants a near as possible full simulation of what it is like to fly a real 744. Unless money is no obstacle,you get the one version FSX or PD3. for me that would mean FSX Acceleration version, but if I upgrade to PD3 I would need to pay over again if I finally bite the bullet and port from FSX to PD3 (which I have yet to do).. So for me this is sadly a no buy at the moment as much as I would enjoy flying it. A real pity PMDG financial returns modelling didn't suggest a lower price point entry to sell a lot more of them ... just saying
Meantime, back to giving the iFly 747 serious consideration once more... sigh.
I was able to have fly with it and also having the Ifly version for me there is a huge different between the 2, there are lots of little things that completes the pmdg version and makes it so much superior
its always the case with pmdg,
1, theres many people who will throw money at them without a second thought,
2, theres others who want and buy but then eat 2 minute noodles for the next month
3, theres others who want but cant afford,
4, theres others who have no interest in them and then
5, theres others who detest them
well thats the case with any other developer
I still recall the amount of butt hurt when orbx released ftx global at $100AUD but people got over it and all you hear is praise for the addon and in several months all you will only the positive things and people say its worth every cent, but for now, people are still trying to get over the shock of the price
However one thing i might want to mention PMDG are one of the only few devs who have publicly stated that when v4 of P3D comes out you wont have to buy a new lic, unlike orbx who have said you will, imagine all the customers who have bought nearly every product bitch when they have re purchase them again for v4
for me, if the product is of that higher caliber, meh I will do what i will have to even if it means if i drive like a little old lady to save on my fuel in order to save a few extra bucks to pay for it
one thing i do feel with addons like this and its price, it doesnt help the anti piracy cause, all ready on the facebook sim groups kids are already asking where to find the torrents and share sites......
its always the case with pmdg,
1, theres many people who will throw money at them without a second thought,
2, theres others who want and buy but then eat 2 minute noodles for the next month
3, theres others who want but cant afford,
4, theres others who have no interest in them and then
5, theres others who detest them
well thats the case with any other developer
I still recall the amount of butt hurt when orbx released ftx global at $100AUD but people got over it and all you hear is praise for the addon and in several months all you will only the positive things and people say its worth every cent, but for now, people are still trying to get over the shock of the price
However one thing i might want to mention PMDG are one of the only few devs who have publicly stated that when v4 of P3D comes out you wont have to buy a new lic, unlike orbx who have said you will, imagine all the customers who have bought nearly every product bitch when they have re purchase them again for v4
for me, if the product is of that higher caliber, meh I will do what i will have to even if it means if i drive like a little old lady to save on my fuel in order to save a few extra bucks to pay for it
one thing i do feel with addons like this and its price, it doesnt help the anti piracy cause, all ready on the facebook sim groups kids are already asking where to find the torrents and share sites......
Penzoil3
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How so Matt ?
[h=3] John Venema[/h]
ID: 38 Posted January 22
Some very welcome news about moving your Orbx investment to P3D v4 is coming. Let me just say you will all be very pleased.
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Some very welcome news about moving your Orbx investment to P3D v4 is coming. Let me just say you will all be very pleased.
Couldn't agree more, especially when the A$ is struggling to stay at around US$00.75.
Throw in the Banks 'Overseas Transaction Fees' (aka 'Theft') and a US$100.00 aircraft works out to somewhere North of A$140.00 ............... this is just an update of an elderly (albeit good) product.
I'd be sorely tempted if this were a DC6 or DC7 but not for another bloody B747.
and less, yesterday paypal's exchange rate was only $00.7288 from memory it totaled about $185AUD while its still sting both wallet and the mrs, im happy
hell knows where the post went, it was posted here at SOH late last yr as a quote in one of the "road map" posts i clearly remember the words to the effect of "you had a good run" when it referred to v3 and v4 lics it was posted around the same time the paypal issue post surfaced, like you im banned from the main forums so I cant have a look for the original post
however with that post you made, they may have reconsidered since and maybe offering a reduced price now
***however the only thing i found was this from a jan post
scotth6
Charter Member
Yes ORBX have definitely stated in the past that the run of free upgrades, as they did with all versions of P3D was over after the P3D V3 upgrades. That being said, they also said about 5 years ago that they were never going to have another sale and they were never going to develop an international airport. I for one am quite happy they changed their stance on these two statements.
Sue's post above is the first I had heard of this, but it seems unclear what this actually means. It does sound like a P3D V4 upgrade will either be free or cheaper than first thought.
Re PMDG and the new 747 V3, I am a fan of PMDG aircraft. I have the FSX 747, and that is one reason I won't be rushing to get the new one. I did just buy the 737NG for P3D, and the Aerosoft Airbus, and have actually been flying the Airbus flat out lately.
For FSX I have the PMDG 747, MD-11, Jetstream 4100 and the FS Labs Concorde, all of which have only left the hangar on rare occasions, so I definitely feel like I need to get much more use out of these products before I update to the newest 747.
I do understand the buzz surrounding the 747's release, as it has been talked about for years, and I understand people wanting to rush out and get it. What I definitely don't understand is people congratulating PMDG on their price like it is a feature of the aircraft, and people implying that it really should have cost more. Maybe they were all just expecting $200?
Sue's post above is the first I had heard of this, but it seems unclear what this actually means. It does sound like a P3D V4 upgrade will either be free or cheaper than first thought.
Re PMDG and the new 747 V3, I am a fan of PMDG aircraft. I have the FSX 747, and that is one reason I won't be rushing to get the new one. I did just buy the 737NG for P3D, and the Aerosoft Airbus, and have actually been flying the Airbus flat out lately.
For FSX I have the PMDG 747, MD-11, Jetstream 4100 and the FS Labs Concorde, all of which have only left the hangar on rare occasions, so I definitely feel like I need to get much more use out of these products before I update to the newest 747.
I do understand the buzz surrounding the 747's release, as it has been talked about for years, and I understand people wanting to rush out and get it. What I definitely don't understand is people congratulating PMDG on their price like it is a feature of the aircraft, and people implying that it really should have cost more. Maybe they were all just expecting $200?
wombat666
Administrator
It was already up on one site yesterday.
I've always kept a watching brief for anything FS that's been ripped, saved a number of Devs some aggro several of times.
Spikehughes
Charter Member
Penzoil3
SOH-CM-2024
http://www.orbxsystems.com/forum/topic/129935-will-orbx-products-work-if-p3d-goes-dx12-64-bit
This says different guys. According to JV just an objectflow update. Knock on wood, that means OrbX for P3D 4 is a freebie!
Sue
This says different guys. According to JV just an objectflow update. Knock on wood, that means OrbX for P3D 4 is a freebie!
Sue
yep knock on wood, however im still cautious as its says "nothing will change", for me i take that as there will still be an upgrade cost noting how many times hes has posted there will be additional costs for v3 to v4,
until he officially posts "there wont be any extra costs , I will continue to take it as there will
orbx like every other company are in it for the money and thats understandable, freebies dont pay employees and bills